Which should I get for him?

I have a pied male that is 66% for ghost. I want to get a visual hypo female to breed him with, but I am wondering should I get a co-dom hypo and raise her up and breed them, or find a large hypo female and just go with it for next year?

I really like honeybees but not sure of the availability or market price on them, and POG's are a cheaper alternative, but again, I am unsure of the price. What would you guys do? If I get the honeybee and he doesnt prove out, hey, I will get spiders that are DH for hypo and ghost anyway, so that would NOT be a bad thing at all right? Same with the POG, nice co-dom DH. Those could be powerful breeders later down the road. I didnt want to get a het or PH just to increase my odds on proving him out.

Hmmm, no opinions?

Not sure how to edit a post yet, but I noticed I put DH for hypo and ghost, I meant hypo and pied obviously

Hi,

Well it really does depend on how you feel about the possible outcomes.

The spied is an amazing looking animal to my eyes - but what would the ghost gene really bring to it?


dr del

Definately go for a Honeybee. You can't loose with that.

There is a female Honeybee for sale on Fauna for 1600
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...light=honeybee

I like the spied alot more, not a more common one you see for sale.

I it were me and his is just me.. I'd get a DH. Nosence in wasting that pied gene on a codom that isn't het pied. Just to hit possiably hit honey bees het pied..

I think I am going to go with a honeybee in the near future. I am buying a Killerbee right now and its got my extra $$ locked down. I think a ghost spied would be awesome looking. Since POG's are much cheaper, I may look into one later in the year as well. Anyone make a ghost bumblebee yet?

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I think I am going to go with a honeybee in the near future. I am buying a Killerbee right now and its got my extra $$ locked down. I think a ghost spied would be awesome looking. Since POG's are much cheaper, I may look into one later in the year as well. Anyone make a ghost bumblebee yet?

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I am with Dr. Del on this one. The ghost spied is a five (2+2+1) gene animal...and I think of all the other five gene animals I could possibly make....the marginal gain of adding the ghost gene into the spied seems small compared to the amount of work it will take.

Just my opinion.

JonV

Well, what would you guys go for then? First things first, I need to prove him out. I just figured a co-dom hypo would be the way to do it because worst case, I will have co-dom DH's. Now in a perfect world I would buy a ghost genetic stripe and shoot for a triple het, but money isnt that good right now!

Getting a co-dom Hypo would not prove him to be anything. I'd go with a DH female.

How would it not prove him out? He is a pied possibly het ghost....unless I am missing something, I should have a good shot (50/50) of producing a hypo if I breed him to a honeybee. A DH female would be great, but I want to try proving him out on a visual before I spend the $$$ on a DH female.

What part of LA are you in?

A co-dom Hypo would produce Hypos even when bred to a normal, so you would not be proving him to be het for Hypo. You would be making your own Hypo het Pieds, though.

If you really want to see if it is het Hypo you will need to use a recessive Hypo female. I agree you should go with a visual, though.

I'm in Slidell, oddly enough.

I must have mistyped something, Hypo is reccessive, by co-dom hypo I meant a honeybee (spider hypo) or POG (pastel hypo). So I would need the gene in him to prove him out. I wanted to go with a co-dom so I could get some "visual" offspring that were DH even if he didnt prove out.

Where at in Slidell?

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Originally Posted by tims balls

I must have mistyped something, Hypo is reccessive, by co-dom hypo I meant a honeybee (spider hypo) or POG (pastel hypo). So I would need the gene in him to prove him out. I wanted to go with a co-dom so I could get some "visual" offspring that were DH even if he didnt prove out.

Where at in Slidell?

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Now that makes more sense. When I read co-dom Hypo I was thinking along the lines of a Fire or something. lol

I'm in Oak Harbor, but my snakes are out by the old Sheriff's office.

Cool man, have to get together sometime and show off snakes!:banana:

Well don't leave me out Tim. I like to meet Herp people in LA, gives me somebody to hang out with.

Tim I still say you should go for Black Pastel after you get your Super Cinnamon.

Hi,

Just to expand on my post earlier.

It's not that I don't think the ghost spied wouldn't be a genetic powerhouse - it's just that I think it would look almost exactly like a spied as only the head has a colour and pattern to be affected.

If I had to pick only one co-dom recessive mix to breed to him I would probably go for POG all the way.

That's assuming your main intrest is to prove the ghost one way or another of course.


dr del