Confused

I started a new thread instead of continuing on the axanthic killer bee because im confused about just the killer bee. Ok a bummble bee is a pastel x spider. everything i read say killer bee is a super pastel spider. So i just assumed it means a super pastel x spider but im wrong. And i am really confused. So if someone could explain how to get a killer bee i would appreciate it

Well super pastel x spider would work but most people just do pastel x bumblebee since that would have 2 pastel genes going on and will make the super.

Killerbee is the result of Bumblebee X Pastel

Super Pastel X Spider will not produce Killerbees but Bumblebees.

A killer bee IS a super pastel spider.

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Originally Posted by PythonBreeder

Well super pastel x spider would work

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No it won't ;)

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Originally Posted by Deborah

No it won't ;)

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You sure? Because that would still have 2 pastel genes together.

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Originally Posted by PythonBreeder

You sure? Because that would still have 2 pastel genes together.

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Positive

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Originally Posted by PythonBreeder

You sure? Because that would still have 2 pastel genes together.

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BUt the Super Pastel can only pass one of the pastel genes...

Hi,

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Originally Posted by PythonBreeder

You sure? Because that would still have 2 pastel genes together.

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No it wouldn't. ;)

Only one half of the gene comes from each parent - so while a super pastel cannot pass on anything apart from a pastel gene it still can't pass on two copies of it.

Hence you get all pastels but no superpastels from breeding a superpastel to a normal.


dr del

Goto the Nerd site....they have a great lesson on genetics I wish we could get a copy to sticky on this site lol.

To produce Killer Bee's, which are Super Pastel Spiders...

Bumblebee x Pastel as stated above, or Bumblebee x Bumblebee...there are others that involve using the Killer Bee in the breeding, which seems pointless if that is what you are trying to produce.

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Originally Posted by ThyTempest

To produce Killer Bee's, which are Super Pastel Spiders...

Bumblebee x Pastel as stated above, or Bumblebee x Bumblebee...there are others that involve using the Killer Bee in the breeding, which seems pointless if that is what you are trying to produce.

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also super pastel x bumblebee

This has some very helpful info, make sure to click on 'More>>' in the bottom left of the page to continue to the next page.
http://ballpython.com/page.php?topic=genetically

This also has some very helpful info, at the bottom of the page you can continue onto Genetics 101, 201 and 301.
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/genetics_intro.html

AS everyone else has explained and to make it easier is that when you breed a super pastel to normal you get all pastels and no supers. So when a spiders bred to super all would express just pastel not super and then some would be spider as well. So pastel is the heterozygous form of the homozygous super pastel and both parents have to be the heterozygous form to produce the homozygous super. Hope this helps a little.

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Originally Posted by PythonBreeder

You sure? Because that would still have 2 pastel genes together.

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It's 2 pastel Genes so that means all the offspring will be pastel, not supers. You'd have to breed a Super Pastel to a Pastel to produce a clutch with Pastels & Super Pastels.

Hi,

You can definately get superpastels by breeding two pastels together.


dr del