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Belly burn ?

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  • 03-21-2009, 04:08 PM
    selarep
    Belly burn ?
    Hi all

    I have freaked out!!

    See below some pictures of my pythonīs, Tequila, belly.

    http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/u...rep/Belly1.jpg

    http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/u...rep/Belly2.jpg

    http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/u...rep/Belly3.jpg

    He ate this morning as usual and then shed straight after (I keep to his feeding schedule even if heīs in the middle of a shedding cycle). In between the shedding he peeīd and pooped.

    When he finished shedding I will cleaning his enclosure and noticed some tiny blood spots on the paper towels. This is when I started to panic.

    I was checking him out and noticed the bottom half of his belly quite red and near to the end some really tiny blood spots. Itīs abit wrinkly on one part, but I there are no flakey scales, blisters, nor any signs of scale rot (atleast that with my little experience I can see). Could this be burn because the heat mat?! What should I do?

    My issue is that there are no herp vets around here and itīs really difficult to take him to the only one I know which is quite far away.

    Any suggestions please...
  • 03-21-2009, 04:10 PM
    selarep
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Because I know you guys like to have full details:

    Heīs in a 24 gallon glass viv.
    Day light on for 12 hrs, 8am -8pm, on a timer.
    6W heat mat on a thermostat (though as mentioned I think this has broken as Iīve been getting some weird readings.)
    I mostly use the heat mat but because of the bad winter weīve had over here I have been alternating with the heat lamp to maintain temps.
    I do have thermometers but I also bought a temp gun which is what I use now.
    Temps (just taken):
    Hot side: 89°F
    Cool side:79°F
    I usually try to keep them at 91°F on the hot side and no lower than 80°F on the cool side, but due to this I have removed the heat mat and placed the Heat lamp so am adjusting it to get there.
    I donīt actually monitor the humidity cause here we have a high humidity anyway. I do mist him everyday and more often when heīs shedding. Always had good sheds.
    Always eaten on schedule, except for 3 meals he missed end of Dec/beg of Jan.
    On paper towls
    Two hides, on each side.
    Water bowls
    Some plastic plants

    Donīt think Iīve forgotten anything!
  • 03-21-2009, 04:28 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Your setup sounds fine to me. If you were using a faulty thermostat that could have caused the problem. I would invest in some flexwatt and a new thermostat as soon as you can.
    I am no expert, but you could put some neosporin or polysporin on the burn to make sure it doesn't get infected.
  • 03-21-2009, 04:55 PM
    selarep
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Am afraid I canīt get any flexiwatts over here, and having them sent over cost too much.
    But I will be goin on monday for a new t-stat, and will prob get a hydrometer just in case. dont want to risk it.
    I have applied some tamodine as I donīt have any neosporin, but will also be getting some on monday.

    If it doesnīt clear away in a few days I will have to find a way to go to the herp vet.

    Many thanks! :)
  • 03-21-2009, 05:00 PM
    DrEwTiMe
    Re: Belly burn ?
    My snake got thermal burns because of a UTH that didnt have a thermostat setup. From the pics your snake does not apprear to have any serious burns so you lucked out. But take the UTH out right away. But just be aware that using the heat lights kill humidity levels so monitor those levels close.
    I would suggest buying the Herpstat. On of the guys on this site sells them and they have worked perfectly for me. I like to support fellow members of this.
  • 03-21-2009, 05:14 PM
    selarep
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Iīd like to support fellow members also but am from Gibraltar, south of spain, and I find it hard to get good stuff around here. Most of it I have to order online.
    Hopefully it will clear out soon.

    Many thanks! :)
  • 03-21-2009, 05:20 PM
    DrEwTiMe
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Ya i belive it was from MG reptiles. He sells the thermostats as well as the flex watt if you needed that. I do most of my buying online as well except for mice of course cause i feed live.
  • 03-21-2009, 05:23 PM
    disabled.101
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Herpstat don't work in Europe because of the different current. At least that's what I was told by the manufacturer. Better try to get a reliable thermostat from a European manufacturer.
  • 03-21-2009, 05:27 PM
    DrEwTiMe
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Oh i totally forgot you guys use 240. Ya that def wouldn't work then. See if you can find spyder robotics. They are the people that make the thermostats and see if they have stores in Europe or if they can sell one for you.
  • 03-21-2009, 05:29 PM
    disabled.101
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by drewtime View Post
    oh i totally forgot you guys use 240. Ya that def wouldn't work then. See if you can find spyder robotics. They are the people that make the thermostats and see if they have stores in europe or if they can sell one for you.

    220 ;)
  • 03-21-2009, 05:32 PM
    DrEwTiMe
    Re: Belly burn ?
    haha thats what i ment!=)
  • 03-21-2009, 06:26 PM
    dr del
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Hi,

    Well it's 240V in britain. :P

    Selarep,

    You can get flexwatt sent over for less if you ask them to send it USPS - I did that when I got mine. But remember to tell them what voltage you need and, if you are ordering it made up , what plug.

    You can also get some heat mats which should work fine I think- the only one that might not be powerfull enough would be Ultra-therms.

    I'm afraid I don't know what the voltage etc is in Gibraltar ( I think its the same as the UK for obvious reasons but don't really know ) but you can definately get some good european thermostats;

    Proportional - the only ones I have found are Habistats from Eurorep. I have used this brand for years and have only had one failure. I do have some that are still in use after ten years plus though and you get a wide range of models with various features such as night drop etc.

    The on/off types have a bit more variety - both luckyreptile and microclimate seem to be popular and some types of the microclimate have an intresting safety feature built in. I do not yet own any but intend to test one on an incubator because of that feature.

    Both makes have various models with different features and the luckyreptile ones are the only digital thermostats I have seen this side of the pond so far.

    All of them can be found on ebay fairly readily or from dedicated reptile stores.


    dr del
  • 03-22-2009, 05:31 PM
    Anarchy
    Re: Belly burn ?
    mine had that too but then he shed ...i bet itll go away ..
  • 03-22-2009, 07:53 PM
    selarep
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Thanks guys for all the info.

    Here we do have same voltage as Britain. Dr Del I will def check those t-stats out and get some ordered online. Will most probably change the ones I have on my iguanaīs cages also as I donīt trust the ones Iīve bought before now. These are some random spanish brand I got across the border.

    Am moving house in a few weeks (fingers crossed) and am planning on changing some of the vivs so Iīll order some flexiwatt as you mention then.

    Thanks again!! :)
  • 04-20-2009, 10:08 AM
    selarep
    Re: Belly burn ?
    Just a small update:

    last weekend tequila shed and his belly is practically as new! There are only a couple of scales that still look abit wrinkly (or maybe its me being paranoid!).

    Also got some habistat thermostats from ebay.

    Thanks for your help!
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