any states w/o permits

are there any states in the US that do not require you to have a permit to own HOTs? I mean HOTs like rattlers and cobras. In FL just about everything is a HOT! ive only found 2 not on this list (thought it was one but asked last night) western, and vine snake.

if I'm not mistaken I believe in PA all hots are legal but I'm not sure if you need a permit to have one or not I know the only legal hot in NV is the albino western diamondback and the mexican beaded lizard

In Texas I think we can keep native hots (rattlers, cottonmouths, etc.) without a permit, but no cobras or other non-native hots.

^I can see why you can't keep non-natives, I'm sure in some areas they would have a good chance of surviving in Texas.

in pa you dont need a permit for hots, but cities can ban hots so you will have to check the local laws

in indiana you need a permit for all hots and your not supposed to have any protected native species

I am not aware of any permits for snakes in S.D., except for Sioux Falls. From what I could find the last time I looked it was legal to own hots in the rest of the state.

*note* I have not done a lot of research on this.

From all the reading I've done, Minnesota does not require permits, but they are banned pretty widely at the city level, so you'd have to live out away from people.

PA- I used to live there, and the only limits there are according to my knowledge, is how many hots you can take from the wild. Also, there mmay be different ordinanaces in the city, like Philly.

In NC, you don't need a permit unless you wish to keep protected native venomous species. In SC you don't need a permit at all.

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Originally Posted by Fallguy

I am not aware of any permits for snakes in S.D., except for Sioux Falls. From what I could find the last time I looked it was legal to own hots in the rest of the state.

*note* I have not done a lot of research on this.

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I read somewhere that you needed a fishing license to keep native venomous in SD.

HAHAHAHA I had to look for that one.... Here is what I have found:

http://www.northern.edu/natsource/REPTILES/Prairi1.htm ;
---People kill rattlesnakes mostly out of fear, although some folks kill snakes to eat. Rattlesnake skin is used to decorate many
items including belts and hat bands. People are allowed to collect prairie rattlesnakes for personal uses, but they must have a
fishing license to do so. To harvest large numbers of snakes for commercial purposes, a person must have a commercial
collecting permit.

I looked all over the SD Game Fish & Parks site, and I could not find anything about it.

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HAHAHAHA I had to look for that one.... Here is what I have found:

http://www.northern.edu/natsource/REPTILES/Prairi1.htm ;
---People kill rattlesnakes mostly out of fear, although some folks kill snakes to eat. Rattlesnake skin is used to decorate many
items including belts and hat bands. People are allowed to collect prairie rattlesnakes for personal uses, but they must have a
fishing license to do so. To harvest large numbers of snakes for commercial purposes, a person must have a commercial
collecting permit.

I looked all over the SD Game Fish & Parks site, and I could not find anything about it.

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I guess that's what I was thinking of. It's quite funny, I don't know how having a fishing license makes you more qualified, lol.

It's just a way for them to get more funding for fish and wildlife. I think they are assuming most people are collecting with the intent to kill and harvest the flesh/skin, in which case a fishing license makes sense. Many states use sport fishing licences as noncommercial reptile/amphib/crab harvesting licences as well.

South carolina does not require a permit to own venomous snakes.

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It's just a way for them to get more funding for fish and wildlife. I think they are assuming most people are collecting with the intent to kill and harvest the flesh/skin, in which case a fishing license makes sense. Many states use sport fishing licences as noncommercial reptile/amphib/crab harvesting licences as well.

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in indiana you have to have one to collect game turtles and frogs

here in sc we dont need a permit but some people dont need to keep hots so a permit wouldnt be a bad thing!

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Originally Posted by Lucas339

are there any states in the US that do not require you to have a permit to own HOTs? I mean HOTs like rattlers and cobras. In FL just about everything is a HOT! ive only found 2 not on this list (thought it was one but asked last night) western, and vine snake.

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what "western"species are you refering to???

and you can go on venomoidinc.com and check out a list of most of the laws for each state

Be careful when reading laws though becuase some can be worded wrong and be very confusing to understand. For instance we found a website that worded large cats were illegal in south carolina and after speaking to our fish and game, department of natural resources and the usda we found they are legal to keep in our state. We are allowed private keeping of all the exotic smaller cats (bobcats, lynx, servals, caracals) without a permit unless we are wanting to breed them or show them for education. And we are allowed all large cats (tigers, lions, cougars) for private ownership with a usda permit. But a site I found told me it was illegal to own any wild cat in sc. BUt it was worded wrong. What it meant was it is unlawful for me to go into the forest in sc and catch a bobcat or any wildanimal and bring it home as a pet

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what "western"species are you refering to???

and you can go on venomoidinc.com and check out a list of most of the laws for each state

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western hog nose. if you read the laws, it makes it sound as if both need permits to keep.

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western hog nose. if you read the laws, it makes it sound as if both need permits to keep.

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yeah,it seems like it,,but you dont

I seem to remember reading that in GA corns and other native non-venomous are illegal, but oddly enough native venomous are legal. Pretty sure it did not even require a permit.

I think it is possible they are legal in VA at least in some circumstances/locations. I got this idea when a non-native venomous snake was found, so that city passed an ordinance making ownership of them illegal. Of course, it is possible the city passed something that duplicated state law I guess. I have no idea if permits are required or not.

in ohio you dont need one unless its on the endangered list or some stuff like that and native ones

Correct me if i'm wrong but I believe anywheres they do "hot" shows where they sell hot snakes, are places you can legally keep them without a permit. I could be wrong, but that's how it seems to me.

alabama no permit needed

In Alabama i'm pretty sure you can only keep native venomous species, no permit needed though

not really neal, the daytona show use to be venomous vendors would have to ask to see if the person had a permit, they could ask to see id to see where the person lived..

there are places in ohio that ban venomous keeping. even if hots are legal in the state the city can still ban them.

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Correct me if i'm wrong but I believe anywheres they do "hot" shows where they sell hot snakes, are places you can legally keep them without a permit. I could be wrong, but that's how it seems to me.

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also, they have a show in orlando, FL that has HOTs.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

From all the reading I've done, Minnesota does not require permits, but they are banned pretty widely at the city level, so you'd have to live out away from people.

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Actually you do need state permits to keep Timber Rattlers and Massasaugas. Not because they're venomous, but because they're considered endangered in this state. But you're right, most cities/towns have ordinance against them. In the town I live in, I would be allowed to keep venomous if I carry at least $100,000.00 in insurance and have the written permission of all neighbors within 100 yards of my property. So in other words, it's not likely to happen.

What about Arizona?