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  • 03-17-2009, 11:40 AM
    MikeG
    This seem ok?
    So my bp likes his cool hide A LOT and i don't know why. The temp on the cool end air is about 80, inside the hide is around 78. I would think this would be too cool for him to be in all the time, but he is. The warm hide isn't far from the cool one, usually around 85-93 (the warmer side of the hide is closer to the heat lamp). I keep thinking that somehow the warm hide is getting too warm, but he was in the warm hide for a whole day two days ago and even if it was a little too warm i would think he would move the hide a little.
    Im using the exact same hides, checking the temps with a temp gun, and i have the probe for my accurite placed in the upper right corner of my hide (with hot glue) which usually reads 83-85.

    Am i worrying to much?

    any input is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Mike~
  • 03-17-2009, 11:45 AM
    MikeG
    Re: This seem ok?
    O, one more thing!

    The humidity has been around 58-63, is that too high? Hes not shedding but i got a humidifier two days ago because..well my air was dry lol.
    I think the humidity was in the high 40's-low 50's before it.


    Thanks again!

    Mike~
  • 03-17-2009, 11:54 AM
    Spaniard
    Re: This seem ok?
    You're being an over cautious owner which is not a bad thing. They key is giving him the appropriate options and letting him decide what he wants. A snake spending all its time in the cool hide is not a problem if the hot side temps are at the right levels. He is probably thermoregulating you just don't happen to see it all the time.
  • 03-17-2009, 11:55 AM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: This seem ok?
    As long as you are sure that your temps are right, then I would not worry about it. Snake thermoregulate, so he most likely just wanted a cooler hide.
  • 03-17-2009, 12:41 PM
    MikeG
    Re: This seem ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    You're being an over cautious owner which is not a bad thing. They key is giving him the appropriate options and letting him decide what he wants. A snake spending all its time in the cool hide is not a problem if the hot side temps are at the right levels. He is probably thermoregulating you just don't happen to see it all the time.

    Im so paranoid about EVERYTHING when it comes to taking care of him. :) I figure im keeping him in a tub and half way around the world from where he is suppose to be, the least i can do is make sure everything for him is perfect.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wh00h0069 View Post
    As long as you are sure that your temps are right, then I would not worry about it. Snake thermoregulate, so he most likely just wanted a cooler hide.

    Thank you guys soo much:bow:, you don't know how revealed i am now!
    Im going to try to feed him today, then he should go into his warm hide, right?

    Thanks again for the reply's!:w00t:

    Mike~
  • 03-17-2009, 03:03 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: This seem ok?
    My snakes are generally on the cool side, but after I feed them, they end up on the warm side for a few days to digest. They know what is best for them :P

    If you know that your temps are right, take a breather! Relax!

    Good luck with the feeding! I am sure everything will go smoothly :P
  • 03-17-2009, 03:18 PM
    Jenn
    Re: This seem ok?
    Sounds just about right to me. He has to be somewhere right? If he NEVER used his warm side hide I would have another look at things. See if he goes in there to digest his next meal. If he does I wouldn't worry about it. Some of my guys hang out in their cool hides and some in their warm hides. Depends on the snake.
  • 03-17-2009, 06:48 PM
    MikeG
    Re: This seem ok?
    HE ATE!!!!!!!!!!! HE ATE HE ATE HE ATE!!!!!! :banana::banana::banana:

    YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :D

    After he ate i put em back in his tub, on the cool side, he went into the cool hide and has been in there for about 45min now:confused: double checked the warm hide temps, high 80's so idk what his deal is lol

    (and yes i know ppl like to keep there bp in there cage when they feed them, please dont hate on me because i didn't. I used long needle noise pliers, held the mouse by the scruff on neck, snake took it before i could finish lowering lol)

    Ill keep checking up on him today and see if he moves.


    Thanks again for the reply's guys!

    Mike~
  • 03-17-2009, 08:14 PM
    dr del
    Re: This seem ok?
    Hi,

    Congrats on the munchin. :gj:


    dr del
  • 03-17-2009, 08:24 PM
    MikeG
    Re: This seem ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    Congrats on the munchin. :gj:


    dr del

    THANKS!


    He is still in the cool hide though..its currently 80* in the cool hide, high 80's in the warm.
    I guess he knows whats best for him??
    Any ideas?


    Thanks again,
    Mike~
  • 03-17-2009, 08:31 PM
    dr del
    Re: This seem ok?
    Hi,

    Yes they generally know what they need better than we do. :D

    As long as they have access to a good temp range with security they generally sort themselves out. Maybe he will make a break for the hot hide under cover of darkness and sneak back before dawn just to mess with you. :rofl:


    dr del
  • 03-18-2009, 09:51 AM
    MikeG
    Re: This seem ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Maybe he will make a break for the hot hide under cover of darkness and sneak back before dawn just to mess with you. :rofl:


    dr del

    Well i hope that's what hes doing.. Checked this morning and hes still in the cool hide :confused::confused:

    His body temp was 80.9F inside warm hide was high 80's, hottest spot was 92

    Should i be worrying about this?

    Thanks!

    Mike~
  • 03-18-2009, 10:01 AM
    dr del
    Re: This seem ok?
    Hi,

    You shouldn't worry about it unless there are signs that it is causing him problems - refusal to eat or regurgitation being the two most common signs I think.

    One thing I noticed you said the probe in the warm end hide was at the top - I normally try and take the temp of the substrate as that's the bit the snake lies on. There may not be a big difference mind you it's just something you might want to check at some point.


    dr del
  • 03-18-2009, 10:22 AM
    JeffJ
    Re: This seem ok?
    if your using a temp gun remember that the surface temp is usualy 4-6*f lower then the probe picks up as its not metering just the surface temp but also ambient.

    with my accu-temp i find that a reading of 98*F on the probe gets me a 92*F spot on UTH/Substrate surface temperature with my temperature gun.
  • 03-19-2009, 12:29 PM
    MikeG
    Re: This seem ok?
    ^^thanks for the advice!

    The substrate was about the same temp as the inside of the hide.

    So like you know, he ate 2 days ago. He has been in the cool hide the whole 2 days. I just checked this morning and hes in the warm hide :)
    He still hasn't pooed though.

    Also, i moved his warm hide a little closer to his cool hide so its not in the lower 90 range anymore, just mid-high 80's. Do you think i should attempt to move it back closer to the heat source or do you think he could move it himself? Hes about 6-7months old and the hides im using are the ones from reptiles basics, the small hide.
    Not sure if i should just let him be, or interfere with my worrieness.

    Thanks again,
    Mike~
  • 03-19-2009, 01:28 PM
    JeffJ
    Re: This seem ok?
    I try to offer one hide over the cools side uth and one over the warm. my cool side is 82-85 and my warm is 92-94.

    and dont worry they will lay down a brown surprise for you when they are ready.
  • 03-19-2009, 01:41 PM
    MikeG
    Re: This seem ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JeffJ View Post
    I try to offer one hide over the cools side uth and one over the warm. my cool side is 82-85 and my warm is 92-94.

    and dont worry they will lay down a brown surprise for you when they are ready.

    lol..i can hardly wait :oops:

    and im not using a uth, but i do have one hide on the cool side and on the warm. the only reason i moved the warm hide is because i though for some reason it was getting too hot for him..even though temperature wise it wasn't.


    Thanks!

    Mike~
  • 03-19-2009, 01:46 PM
    JeffJ
    Re: This seem ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
    lol..i can hardly wait :oops:

    and im not using a uth, but i do have one hide on the cool side and on the warm. the only reason i moved the warm hide is because i though for some reason it was getting too hot for him..even though temperature wise it wasn't.


    Thanks!

    Mike~

    as long as the temps are right your fine.

    my baby boa likes ot lay in its water dish. i know weird. but i dont bother her. and before y'all say anything im sure she is mite free lol

    first thing i checked.
  • 03-19-2009, 04:21 PM
    zombie&lemons
    Re: This seem ok?
    all my bp's love there water bowl cause its nice and cool
  • 03-20-2009, 10:22 AM
    MikeG
    Re: This seem ok?
    so im still paranoid that somethings wrong lol

    He still hasn't "gone". and was back in the cool hide.

    I took a pic of him.. to me it looks like hes about ready. I thought that they usually "went" 2 days after they eat?? Its day #4
    http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2109/dsc01559rsl.jpg



    Thanks!
    Mike~
  • 03-20-2009, 10:27 AM
    Spaniard
    Re: This seem ok?
    He's fine just relax, they will go when they are ready. Sometimes they hold it in for a while and let loose during a shed or whenever they feel like it. You will see the tail end of them start to get fatter as it gets closer to the "time". You could soak them in luke warm water at this time if it helps you feel at ease but they should be fine on their own.
  • 03-20-2009, 10:30 AM
    MikeG
    Re: This seem ok?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    He's fine just relax, they will go when they are ready. Sometimes they hold it in for a while and let loose during a shed or whenever they feel like it. You will see the tail end of them start to get fatter as it gets closer to the "time". You could soak them in luke warm water at this time if it helps you feel at ease but they should be fine on their own.

    Phew, thank you!:bow:
    lol

    sorry, im just so nervous being a new "parent":P


    Mike~
  • 03-20-2009, 10:46 AM
    JeffJ
    Re: This seem ok?
    no need to soak. they will go when they are reqady. some times it just needs to brew just a lil bit longer before they surprise yah and give you some brown gold.
  • 03-20-2009, 11:01 AM
    MikeG
    Re: This seem ok?
    LMAO @ brown gold :lmao:

    I've never been so anxious for something to poo before LOL


    Thanks for the comfort:gj:

    Mike~
  • 03-20-2009, 11:02 AM
    JeffJ
    Re: This seem ok?
    i was a lil worried too. u know it was near 2 months before my BP pooped for me for the first time.
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