piebald

before you guys yell at me for not doing research before i ask questions. I looked for it and couldnt find the answer. but one option of making a piebald is you get a het piebald raise it then breed it with another het piebald and you will have about 25% chance of a piebald. or do you have to breed the het piebald with a piebald, please dont be mean i really tried with this one

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Originally Posted by rocky88

before you guys yell at me for not doing research before i ask questions. I looked for it and couldnt find the answer. but one option of making a piebald is you get a het piebald raise it then breed it with another het piebald and you will have about 25% chance of a piebald. or do you have to breed the het piebald with a piebald, please dont be mean i really tried with this one

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correct. Check out geneticswizard.com

You are correct with the two hets, just keep in mind its 25% chance per egg.
With a visual piebald to a het it 50% per egg and piebald to piebald is all piebalds.

correct what? you breed a het and a het or a het and a piebald

Yes.. your sumation was correct. Het piedbald x het piedbald = 25% normal - 50% het piedbald - 25% pied(JACKPOT).
Be aware that your results may vary, due to the whims of the egg gods.

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Originally Posted by rocky88

correct what? you breed a het and a het or a het and a piebald

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Either one will work.

thank you guys very much. And i believe when you cross a pastel and a spider you can hopefully get a bumble bee, right? But when you cross a spider and piebald that would make a spider 100% het piebald? one last one, say you take a normal and breed it with a recessive then you get a het of that recessive . sorry reading up and still just trying to understand genetics. thank you in advance!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by rocky88

thank you guys very much. And i believe when you cross a pastel and a spider you can hopefully get a bumble bee, right? But when you cross a spider and piebald that would make a spider 100% het piebald? one last one, say you take a normal and breed it with a recessive then you get a het of that recessive . sorry reading up and still just trying to understand genetics. thank you in advance!!!!!!!!!

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Say you have an animal that is homozygous for any type of gene (whether it be recessive or dominant, example: a visual piebald or a super pastel), call this animal's two copies of the gene "a a".

Say you have a normal, call this animal's two copies of the normal gene "b b".

Breed them. Each parent throws one copy of the gene and all animals are "a b".

Now, if "a a" was a visual recessive, all babies are 100% heterozygous for the recessive gene.

If "a a" was super pastel, then all babies are pastels.

It is the same odds, just one is visible and one is not.

JonV

and one last thing. which one is visual? sorry i really was trying to find all this stuff, oh and read that caresheet sorry just a little help isnt really as amazing as people made it seem

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and one last thing. which one is visual? sorry i really was trying to find all this stuff, oh and read that caresheet sorry just a little help isnt really as amazing as people made it seem

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recessive means it takes two copies of the gene to be visible (well, that may not be definition, but it's equivalent).

So het for pied, het for albino, het for ghost, het for clown, het for lavender albino, all LOOK NORMAL.

But pastel, spider, cinnamon, etc...all are visible with only one copy of the gene.

JonV

You'll get it soon and it'll all make sense. I find myself at the shows looking at animals, pairing them with some of my animals and doing squares to see what comes out after f2, f3 breedings lol.

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Originally Posted by rocky88

correct what? you breed a het and a het or a het and a piebald

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Try this one out... http://www.snake-zone.com/genetics/wizard/

It tell you what you get..

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

Het piedbald x het piedbald = 25% normal - 50% het piedbald - 25% pied(JACKPOT).

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And since the 3 non-visual outcomes are, for all intents and purposes, indistinguishable, they're all considered 66% hets (2 out of 3) until proven through breeding.


( not a correction, just finishing the thought :) )

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

Yes.. your sumation was correct. Het piedbald x het piedbald = 25% normal - 50% het piedbald - 25% pied(JACKPOT).
Be aware that your results may vary, due to the whims of the egg gods.

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i dunno wolfy my het pieds just locked this am so ill have to wait a few months and see how that goes


oh yea i forgot :P

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

Yes.. your sumation was correct. Het piedbald x het piedbald = 25% normal - 50% het piedbald - 25% pied(JACKPOT).
Be aware that your results may vary, due to the whims of the egg gods.

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And the intensity of your nude dance in front of the incubator to appease said Ball Gods. Moar jiggles!

There is a sticky in the genetics forum that would answer your questions
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=52847

This thread should have actually been posted in that forum since all your questions are about genetics.;)