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Tic tac Gtp Update

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  • 03-11-2009, 08:10 PM
    Warocker's Wife
    Tic tac Gtp Update
  • 03-11-2009, 08:13 PM
    DSGB
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    :O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O
    WOW. Thats all i can say. I got Gregs book sittin next to me. That guy is flippin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 03-11-2009, 08:17 PM
    Warocker's Wife
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DSGB View Post
    :O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O
    WOW. Thats all i can say. I got Gregs book sittin next to me. That guy is flippin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Greg is amazing he is really a down to earth guy too. nice man and incredible breeder and teacher.

    thanks for the comments!
  • 03-11-2009, 08:26 PM
    llovelace
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Wow! another stunner
  • 03-11-2009, 08:32 PM
    DutchHerp
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    AHHH too hot for the eyes to see!!
  • 03-11-2009, 09:04 PM
    DavidG
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Amazing snake. Thinking it will be melanistic?
  • 03-11-2009, 09:24 PM
    juddb
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    You might want to pick up some Provent a mite;)
  • 03-12-2009, 07:19 AM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    He is a hottie! I love all of the different colors!
  • 03-12-2009, 10:48 AM
    Brandon Osborne
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Very nice choice!
  • 03-12-2009, 02:33 PM
    jere000
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidG View Post
    Amazing snake. Thinking it will be melanistic?

    do you mean calico
  • 03-12-2009, 04:01 PM
    DavidG
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
  • 03-12-2009, 04:59 PM
    Lucas339
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    that little one is a hottie!!
  • 03-12-2009, 05:36 PM
    Warocker's Wife
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Thanks I have been working with him and he is so hand able never bitten..lol Has tried a few times when he was a little worm.
    He/she is just looking amazing everyday has been a different color change it’s been exciting to watch.
    :gj:
  • 03-12-2009, 05:56 PM
    DavidG
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    How is the one who was suffering from constant prolapse doing?
  • 03-13-2009, 05:28 AM
    Chuck
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidG View Post

    Umm not sure it the same thing at all
  • 03-13-2009, 10:18 AM
    jere000
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    actually calico and melanistic are different melanistic means it has alot of black where as calico means it has a bunch of different colors such as the gtp in the picture with the greens,oranges,yellows,and blacks not just black sorry if its abit dumbed down very tired
  • 03-13-2009, 12:57 PM
    DavidG
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    To me, that's normally called a tri color in chondros.


    The green tree is still changing. I mean finished product.
  • 03-13-2009, 01:08 PM
    Brandon Osborne
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidG View Post
    To me, that's normally called a tri color in chondros.

    This by "chondro" standards, is what is referred to as tri-color, and sometimes quad-color depending on the amount of white.
    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF6539.jpg
    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../BO0602web.jpg
    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../BO0601web.jpg
    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../Bo0604web.jpg
    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ondros/195.jpg

    typical tri-color look.....with a bit more yellow.
    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...dros/bo-11.jpg
    and one with a bit more green.
    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...dros/bo-12.jpg

    Melanistic "phase". This animal does not look like this any longer. Melanistic chondros are referred to those with large amounts of black pigment.
    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF6937.jpg
    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ketbackweb.jpg

    I would consider WARocker's animal to be "calico"ish at this point. Who knows what will happen with it as it keeps progressing.
  • 03-13-2009, 03:57 PM
    Chuck
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    http://www.animalpicturesarchive.com...1114254969.jpg

    Here is an example of a melanistic Hognose.

    I have a question I see melanistic phase thrown around, meaning the animal appears melanistic to some degree durring the Ontogenic color change. How many of these animals would still be considered melanistic at the end completion of that color change, and would you consider it a real melanistic animal? I am just curious sorry for getting off topic.

    Chuck
  • 03-13-2009, 04:04 PM
    TheMolenater2
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Geez, GTPs are hot enough as it is, but this is just an overdose of hotness.
  • 03-13-2009, 04:10 PM
    Brandon Osborne
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    As far as I know, anything with melanin can be considered melanistic. It's whether or not some should be called Hyper-melanistic that should be the question.

    There are several adult chondros with much more black pigment than the animal I posted. I think the term melanistic gets thrown around, and for the sake of chondros, it is used for those that exibit a large amount of black.....something chondros do not normally express. For an animal that is normally solid green, I do think the term melanistic or hyper-melanistic is appropriate for those with large amounts of black.

    The term "mite-phase" was once used for chondro will black speckling, but these days, the more black animals are referred to melanistic phase and the condition seems to be inheritable in some lines.

    If I can get permission to post pics of some melanistic chondros, I'll put them up for example. There are plenty around.
  • 03-13-2009, 04:43 PM
    Chuck
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Brandon

    Thanks for the reply, when I said would you consider adult real melanistic animals that was a poor choice of words on my part.Hyper Melanistic would have been better. I was intrested because greg maxwell says that he calls them melanistic phase animals, and I was wondering if that was because a majority of them loose there dark pigmentation into adulthood thus not really making them a melanistic animal. I am sure I could poke around and find examples of hyper melanistic Chondros myself, I was just being lazy so don't worry about posting pics unless you really want to, thanks again.

    Chuck
  • 03-13-2009, 04:50 PM
    Brandon Osborne
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    Brandon

    Thanks for the reply, when I said would you consider adult real melanistic animals that was a poor choice of words on my part.Hyper Melanistic would have been better. I was intrested because greg maxwell says that he calls them melanistic phase animals, and I was wondering if that was because a majority of them loose there dark pigmentation into adulthood thus not really making them a melanistic animal. I am sure I could poke around and find examples of hyper melanistic Chondros myself, I was just being lazy so don't worry about posting pics unless you really want to, thanks again.

    Chuck


    Ok, I see you were thinking the same as I. While I understand Greg mentions the term "phase", there are lots of sub-adult to adult animals that I would consider to be "melanistic/hyper-mel" animals. I see what I can do just to show others....and I love looking at unique chondros.
  • 03-14-2009, 12:02 PM
    DavidG
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    http://www.chondrolicious.com/about.htm

    Sense this is his site, I don't think Marcial will mind it being posted.

    Brandon, I started a reply to your pics last night but got busy with non-computer related stuff. You're animals are amazing, and that is kind of the bad part. You display the best of when it comes to tri colors.

    http://signalherp.com/green_tree_pythons.htm

    Another public site, and still not a direct link to the animals in reference. If you troll on here a bit you will find some animals displaying a lot of yellow, blue, and green. Then again you will find some displaying a lot of green, with little blue and yellow. Both are considered tri colors to me, but this is a matter of personal opinion.
  • 03-15-2009, 07:53 PM
    DSGB
    Re: Tic tac Gtp Update
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne View Post
    Ok, I see you were thinking the same as I. While I understand Greg mentions the term "phase", there are lots of sub-adult to adult animals that I would consider to be "melanistic/hyper-mel" animals. I see what I can do just to show others....and I love looking at unique chondros.

    A phase isnt constant so technically you could call a yellow neonate a "high-yellow phase"
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