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Tic tac Gtp Update
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:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O
WOW. Thats all i can say. I got Gregs book sittin next to me. That guy is flippin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by DSGB
:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O
WOW. Thats all i can say. I got Gregs book sittin next to me. That guy is flippin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greg is amazing he is really a down to earth guy too. nice man and incredible breeder and teacher.
thanks for the comments!
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AHHH too hot for the eyes to see!!
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Amazing snake. Thinking it will be melanistic?
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You might want to pick up some Provent a mite;)
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He is a hottie! I love all of the different colors!
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Originally Posted by DavidG
Amazing snake. Thinking it will be melanistic?
do you mean calico
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that little one is a hottie!!
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Thanks I have been working with him and he is so hand able never bitten..lol Has tried a few times when he was a little worm.
He/she is just looking amazing everyday has been a different color change it’s been exciting to watch.
:gj:
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How is the one who was suffering from constant prolapse doing?
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Originally Posted by DavidG
Umm not sure it the same thing at all
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actually calico and melanistic are different melanistic means it has alot of black where as calico means it has a bunch of different colors such as the gtp in the picture with the greens,oranges,yellows,and blacks not just black sorry if its abit dumbed down very tired
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To me, that's normally called a tri color in chondros.
The green tree is still changing. I mean finished product.
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Originally Posted by DavidG
To me, that's normally called a tri color in chondros.
This by "chondro" standards, is what is referred to as tri-color, and sometimes quad-color depending on the amount of white.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF6539.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../BO0602web.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../BO0601web.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../Bo0604web.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ondros/195.jpg
typical tri-color look.....with a bit more yellow.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...dros/bo-11.jpg
and one with a bit more green.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...dros/bo-12.jpg
Melanistic "phase". This animal does not look like this any longer. Melanistic chondros are referred to those with large amounts of black pigment.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF6937.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ketbackweb.jpg
I would consider WARocker's animal to be "calico"ish at this point. Who knows what will happen with it as it keeps progressing.
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http://www.animalpicturesarchive.com...1114254969.jpg
Here is an example of a melanistic Hognose.
I have a question I see melanistic phase thrown around, meaning the animal appears melanistic to some degree durring the Ontogenic color change. How many of these animals would still be considered melanistic at the end completion of that color change, and would you consider it a real melanistic animal? I am just curious sorry for getting off topic.
Chuck
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Geez, GTPs are hot enough as it is, but this is just an overdose of hotness.
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As far as I know, anything with melanin can be considered melanistic. It's whether or not some should be called Hyper-melanistic that should be the question.
There are several adult chondros with much more black pigment than the animal I posted. I think the term melanistic gets thrown around, and for the sake of chondros, it is used for those that exibit a large amount of black.....something chondros do not normally express. For an animal that is normally solid green, I do think the term melanistic or hyper-melanistic is appropriate for those with large amounts of black.
The term "mite-phase" was once used for chondro will black speckling, but these days, the more black animals are referred to melanistic phase and the condition seems to be inheritable in some lines.
If I can get permission to post pics of some melanistic chondros, I'll put them up for example. There are plenty around.
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Brandon
Thanks for the reply, when I said would you consider adult real melanistic animals that was a poor choice of words on my part.Hyper Melanistic would have been better. I was intrested because greg maxwell says that he calls them melanistic phase animals, and I was wondering if that was because a majority of them loose there dark pigmentation into adulthood thus not really making them a melanistic animal. I am sure I could poke around and find examples of hyper melanistic Chondros myself, I was just being lazy so don't worry about posting pics unless you really want to, thanks again.
Chuck
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Brandon
Thanks for the reply, when I said would you consider adult real melanistic animals that was a poor choice of words on my part.Hyper Melanistic would have been better. I was intrested because greg maxwell says that he calls them melanistic phase animals, and I was wondering if that was because a majority of them loose there dark pigmentation into adulthood thus not really making them a melanistic animal. I am sure I could poke around and find examples of hyper melanistic Chondros myself, I was just being lazy so don't worry about posting pics unless you really want to, thanks again.
Chuck
Ok, I see you were thinking the same as I. While I understand Greg mentions the term "phase", there are lots of sub-adult to adult animals that I would consider to be "melanistic/hyper-mel" animals. I see what I can do just to show others....and I love looking at unique chondros.
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http://www.chondrolicious.com/about.htm
Sense this is his site, I don't think Marcial will mind it being posted.
Brandon, I started a reply to your pics last night but got busy with non-computer related stuff. You're animals are amazing, and that is kind of the bad part. You display the best of when it comes to tri colors.
http://signalherp.com/green_tree_pythons.htm
Another public site, and still not a direct link to the animals in reference. If you troll on here a bit you will find some animals displaying a lot of yellow, blue, and green. Then again you will find some displaying a lot of green, with little blue and yellow. Both are considered tri colors to me, but this is a matter of personal opinion.
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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne
Ok, I see you were thinking the same as I. While I understand Greg mentions the term "phase", there are lots of sub-adult to adult animals that I would consider to be "melanistic/hyper-mel" animals. I see what I can do just to show others....and I love looking at unique chondros.
A phase isnt constant so technically you could call a yellow neonate a "high-yellow phase"
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