BallPythonZone.com

This website is stealing photos from SiscoReptiles and Brian Gundy.

I have informed them of it, and have also contacted the website as well.

Be aware of this misrepresentation.

Noted

Thanks Wong

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

This website is stealing photos from SiscoReptiles and Brian Gundy.

I have informed them of it, and have also contacted the website as well.

Be aware of this misrepresentation.

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i was thinking that when all they had was a few w/c and 2 males for sale yet all those morphs pictured

Good catch Heather

I wonder if there's a defense?

Sorry that i have taken the pictures without asking but i already talk to brian and he said it was ok. I own no morphs for right now. Im just new to the breeding game but i will contact the photo owners for permission to use the photo. I am not in any way stealing the photo or using them as mine. I have never said that they were my snakes or that i owned them. Sorry for the misunderstanding. And hope you can still be with us.
-BallPythonZone

Not only stolen but also hot-linked (stealing bandwidth from the web owners as well)

In order

• Sisco Reptiles
• Don Patterson
• Mark Petros
• Hot -linked from some other person stealing pictures himself
• Dave Harms (though I believe I recognize the picture style and I believe it might be from someone else)

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Originally Posted by nixer

i was thinking that when all they had was a few w/c and 2 males for sale yet all those morphs pictured

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That is ture. We have one w.c bp and 2 normals. But we have never said that the snakes in the photos are ours. I will contact them as well.
Thanks

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Not only stolen but also hot-linked (stealing bandwidth from the web owners as well)

In order

• Sisco Reptiles
• Don Patterson
• Mark Petros
• Hot -linked from some other person stealing pictures himself
• Dave Harms (though I believe I recognize the picture style and I believe it might be from someone else)

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Again we are sorry and are going to contact the picture owners for permission. If they dont want the pictures on the site they will be taken down.

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

That is ture. We have one w.c bp and 2 normals. But we have never said that the snakes in the photos are ours. I will contact them as well.
Thanks

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its still stealing and copywrite infringement! if you dont have permission before hand its straight up stealing

Sad fact, you can fix what you did wrong. But the damage is done...

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

Sorry that i have taken the pictures without asking but i already talk to brian and he said it was ok. I own no morphs for right now. Im just new to the breeding game but i will contact the photo owners for permission to use the photo. I am not in any way stealing the photo or using them as mine. I have never said that they were my snakes or that i owned them. Sorry for the misunderstanding. And hope you can still be with us.
-BallPythonZone

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He e-mailed me and told me he wanted them removed...

Honestly I see your website as completely misleading and IMO a waste of my time. I see the first page and expect to see a breeder of high end morphs. Instead I am disappointed when I see your 'Available' and 'Collection' pages. I see no attempt to point out that these are not snakes you own. If I was the actual owner of those snakes, I would be pissed.

Every post I have seen you make has been whoring your site. I understand everyone has to start somewhere but you started at the wrong place.

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Originally Posted by Demon280z

Honestly I see your website as completely misleading and IMO a waste of my time. I see the first page and expect to see a breeder of high end morphs. Instead I am disappointed when I see your 'Available' and 'Collection' pages. I see no attempt to point out that these are not snakes you own. If I was the actual owner of those snakes, I would be pissed.

Every post I have seen you make has been whoring your site. I understand everyone has to start somewhere but you started at the wrong place.

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The pictures on the collection page are mine. I am just trying to become a ball python breeder bacause I love them and can't stay always. The reptiles we have Available are also mine.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

He e-mailed me and told me he wanted them removed...

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Then they will all be removed by to night. No problem. Sorry

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

The pictures on the collection page are mine. I am just trying to become a ball python breeder bacause I love them and can't stay always. The reptiles we have Available are also mine.

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If you want to become a Ball Python breeder, breed Ball Pythons.. Your work should speak for itself. If you are trying to get an early start building your reputation, you have already done some major damage.

http://www.ballpythonzone.com/apps/v...ht-ball-python

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

Then they will all be removed by to night. No problem. Sorry

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I think you miss the point. NONE of those photos are yours. You need to remove them ALL.

Even with permission (which you should have gotten BEFORE posting them on your site), you need to give credit to the people who own those animals, and make a point to say "Hey, these animals are not mine, they are XYZ's animals, and they are used with permission."

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

I think you miss the point. NONE of those photos are yours. You need to remove them ALL.

Even with permission (which you should have gotten BEFORE posting them on your site), you need to give credit to the people who own those animals, and make a point to say "Hey, these animals are not mine, they are XYZ's animals, and they are used with permission."

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Yes allllllll of the picture will be taken down. Some photo had logos on them. I was asked before who the photo were own by and i gave them the name of the person

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Originally Posted by Demon280z

If you want to become a Ball Python breeder, breed Ball Pythons.. Your work should speak for itself. If you are trying to get an early start building your reputation, you have already done some major damage.

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Yes i was trying to get and early start. I am really disapointed at the damage i've done to my website

Unless you put a disclaimer such as "photo being used with permission from XX", then it is assumed that all animals you have pictured on your site belong to you.

The moment a photograph is taken, it is copyrighted.

When I went to your site, other than the big Sisco watermark on the first one, I would have presumed all the animals on your site belonged to you.

Were I you - I'd take them all down.

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

Yes i was trying to get and early start. I am really disapointed at the damage i've done to my website

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Website hell, your reputation. You'll quickly find that this hobby has a loooong memory, and those who lie cheat and steal get nowhere fast.

It's okay to admire animals others have produced, but to take and use their photos is a no-no no matter what hobby you're in. Heck, I would have thought that with something like that, morals would have stepped in and said it's not okay to steal. Period. Under no circumstances. Never. Gettin' through?

It's not just the pictures you have posted that were misrepresented.. You probably shouldn't have posted the video that proves you don't know what you are doing.

Breeding isn't something you should just jump into because 'everyone is doing it'. My advice is to get some actual experience under your belt. You JUST got your first BP and from what I have seen already, I would NOT trust you to provide me with a healthy specimen if I was a prospective buyer.

You have "all rights reserved" on the front page of your site.

Do you understand what that means? :rolleyes:

And your "donation" link to paypal...

What exactly are people donating too?

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

(Signature)PS: You snake does not have a gender, it has a sex. Seriously.
Bruce

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Lol

Well, my bp knows shes a girl...but I still think she slithers like a boy...:D

Who shipped you a snake via USPS?

http://www.ballpythonzone.com/apps/v...ng-ball-python

I think the lesson here is posting someone elses pics, misrepresent and mislead which = a liar.

This is what the community will remember and think about you. Not good:colbert:
I see many people call themselves a reptile or BP breeder(on websites, forums and avatars) yet they have never hatched an animal.

As with anything in life you need to learn to walk before you can run or you will hurt yourself.

I had someone using my photo's on their site and Reptile Geeks page. They were in Germany so I guess they thought they were safe but the internet knows no geographic boundries. I contacted th RG and they were removed along with a bunch of other photos that werent thiers. In the long run you do more damage to yourself than good.

If you want to be a reptile breeder that is great, but like in any field, you gotta pay your dues like everyone else did before you;)

I think the site-owner was just over-enthusied, and didn't think he was 'stealing' anything but cool pcitures to decorate his website with.
Now that he KNOWS it's a wrong thing, and a major misleading to use morph pictures he doesn't own, hopefully he'll clean up his website.
For the site owner. I'd post a apoligy, and if you want to show pictures of animals you WANT to produce one day, then you should contact owners of such animals and ask permission to use their pics to decorate your site, and make sure they are noted as animals you do not own.
The video you have up of your WC bp shows you do not have a proper set up, nor do you understand how to properly acclimate and feed a import.
When you eventually do breed, you'll get all normals with the snakes you currantly own. DO you have plans of what to do with the hatchlings?
I hope you get it all sorted out, and research a lot more before you get into trouble over anything else. Don't try to be a "bigshot" online, and be willing to say "I'm a beginner, but I'm sure enthusiastic! Can you answer my questions?" and you'll go a LOT further!
I hope everything works out and that you have good things happening with your snakes.
BTW: It's illegil to ship snakes via USPS. Might want to rem that too.

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Originally Posted by 2kdime

Who shipped you a snake via USPS?

http://www.ballpythonzone.com/apps/v...ng-ball-python

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Http://reptilecity.com

I don`t know who this Ball Python Zone person is, but he certainly never received my permission to use any pictures from my website. For the record, the pastel pic he`s using is mine. Who ever you are please remove MY picture from YOUR website.
Mark Petros BallPython777.com

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

Http://reptilecity.com

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I would assume they do so for Dry good and feeder insects not reptiles as it is against the law.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

I would assume they do so for Dry good and feeder insects not reptiles as it is against the law.

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No Deb, if you watch one of the videos on his site, hes unboxing a WC ball out of a box sent USPS.

And hes saying that reptile city sent it to him.

Sending reptiles via USPS is illegal.

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Originally Posted by 2kdime

No Deb, if you watch one of the videos on his site, hes unboxing a WC ball out of a box sent USPS.

And hes saying that reptile city sent it to him.

Sending reptiles via USPS is illegal.

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W:OW just saw the video……………..UNBELIEVABLE

USPS box put in an envelope (no insulation, just a BP in a snake bag with newspaper)

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Originally Posted by Deborah

W:OW just saw the video……………..UNBELIEVABLE

USPS box put in an envelope (no insulation, just a BP in a snake bag with newspaper)

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Bingo

Is the kid in the video the "breeder?"

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Originally Posted by Deborah

W:OW just saw the video……………..UNBELIEVABLE

USPS box put in an envelope (no insulation, just a BP in a snake bag with newspaper)

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Holy crap! I couldnt believe it either! Who the heck did that?? :mad::mad:

Are you sure its a wild caught? Its pretty small.

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

Is the kid in the video the "breeder?"

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Yes BallPythonZone(Me)(16 year old kid). I just feel in love with bps and want to become a breeder. But the picture will be put down and im again im sorry

[QUOTE=littleindiangirl;1005783]Are you sure its a wild caught? Its pretty small.[/QUrre
Yes it was under w.c

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

Yes BallPythonZone(Me)(16 year old kid). I just feel in love with bps and want to become a breeder. But the picture will be put down and im again im sorry

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Since you are online right now and have been most of this after noon why not take those pics down NOW :confused: just logon to your control panel and take the site down until you can upload something else.

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

Yes BallPythonZone(Me)(16 year old kid). I just feel in love with bps and want to become a breeder. But the picture will be put down and im again im sorry

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Well, I hope you learned a lesson today. Although I think the public flogging you got was a little hurtful and over the top.

Hopefully you can move on and people here will try to educate you instead of treating you like a pariah.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

Well, I hope you learned a lesson today. Although I think the public flogging you got was a little hurtful and over the top.

Hopefully you can move on and people here will try to educate you instead of treating you like a pariah.

Good luck.

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I have.Thanks for caring

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

I have.Thanks for caring

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it doesnt look like it your site still has all the stolen photos up:colbert:

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Originally Posted by nixer

it doesnt look like it your site still has all the stolen photos up:colbert:

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I still havent made it home. Im on cell phone

personally its not just the pictures you stole ( which i have seen are taken off ) the site needs to be redone if you want to be taken serious. #1 in my opinion take off the videos that show you are a kid. #2 dopeboy isnt a very professional email address for a 'breeder' and #3 i would learn alot about genetics, and how to care for animals. might i ask what your setup consists of ? temps? etc? make sure you know about an animal before you inted to breed it or even care for it in any matter. but thats just my :2cent:

-Jon

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Originally Posted by Rejekt

personally its not just the pictures you stole ( which i have seen are taken off ) the site needs to be redone if you want to be taken serious. #1 in my opinion take off the videos that show you are a kid. #2 dopeboy isnt a very professional email address for a 'breeder' and #3 i would learn alot about genetics, and how to care for animals. might i ask what your setup consists of ? temps? etc? make sure you know about an animal before you inted to breed it or even care for it in any matter. but thats just my :2cent:

-Jon

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Yes i learn alot about ball pythons before i got my first corn snake then a w.c then 2 more at a reptile show. I use to be on the pc just looking at snake videos and reading alot about them. My mom was always tell me that i was crazy looking at ball pythons everyday. I really care about my reptiles. Thanks

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Originally Posted by BallPythonZone

Yes i learn alot about ball pythons before i got my first corn snake then a w.c then 2 more at a reptile show. I use to be on the pc just looking at snake videos and reading alot about them. My mom was always tell me that i was crazy looking at ball pythons everyday. I really care about my reptiles. Thanks

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Do I smell a question dodger?

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Originally Posted by ThyTempest

Do I smell a question dodger?

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No i keep my snakes in plastic bins with holes in them. I use newspaper and keep two hides in there. A water bowl big enough for the snake. Under tank heaters at the moment. The tem stays at 80-85 during the day.The hot side is around 90-95.At night the tems go down to 75-80

For a 16 year old, I gotta hand it to you for not losing your cool and calling everyone big meanies :gj:

I'm sure you'll do the right thing. We all screw up - but it's how you handle your screw ups that will shine through.

If you recognize the fact that you screwed up and are genuine about fixing your mistakes, then kudos to you sir :gj: :banana:

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Originally Posted by Nate

For a 16 year old, I gotta hand it to you for not losing your cool and calling everyone big meanies :gj:

I'm sure you'll do the right thing. We all screw up - but it's how you handle your screw ups that will shine through.

If you recognize the fact that you screwed up and are genuine about fixing your mistakes, then kudos to you sir :gj: :banana:

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i agree with this 100% hes acting mature for a 16 year old. also i would reccomend trying to breed BP's before making a website and such. the sound of breeding sounds easy and sounds like fun, but its A LOT of work. i have never bred them but i did breed bearded dragons and it does cost a lot of money to tace care of baby animals. what if you decide you dont like breeding and want to get rid of everythign you started a website for nothing ( not saying you did but just hypothetically) theres alot of things to take int oconsideration before actually breeding and such.

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just looked at the site alot more better with the apology and removal of said videos. looks like a good start for a better site