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http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=667718



saw these posted on kingsnake, andreally liked them? Are they special normal's? He called them CH stripers. I was expecting to see a genetic stripe or some kind of pinstripe, but found these. I like them though, just wondering if there offspring will have the reduced pattern as well.

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=667718



saw these posted on kingsnake, andreally liked them? Are they special normal's? He called them CH stripers. I was expecting to see a genetic stripe or some kind of pinstripe, but found these. I like them though, just wondering if there offspring will have the reduced pattern as well.

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look like normals to me . . . normals are normals unless u know the genes or prove them out to determine otherwise

i agree, Normal. Especially at that price. i think they say striper due to the stripes. i mean, it's definatly not a pinstripe, but it's got a better stripe than some. i have a high gold normal that has a gorgeous stripe that does 8 or so inches at the tail. but it's still a normal.

no, i know that, I was mostly wondering if these "stripers" carry that stripe on to there offspring. There soo nice, I would love to see lots of em!!

i think "striper" was just a name given to them to help them sell . . . all my normals look liek those snakes

When it says CH and it's not a breeding size animal, it's unproven. This is a farmed animal, and you would not know the genetics of mom and pop, so you'd take your chances on the snake carrying a real gene to pass on.
If you like it, buy it. But it will be more of a dinker project, rather than a known genetic trait.

"striper" simply is referencing the pattern on their back, they have only a few breaks in an almost complete back stripe.

"harlequin" BPs(from what I understand) are similar, seems to just be a neat pattern without a single mutated gene causing specific patterning/colorations.

On top of all of that Ed Clark is a scum bag you need to stear clear of him and any animal he has offered for sale.

Just a nice group of CH and if it crosses your mind to purchase animals from this seller I would highly recommend you to check the seller's rep on BOI http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...splay.php?f=13 :rolleyes:

........ball pythons?

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Just a nice group of CH and if it crosses your mind to purchase animals from this seller I would highly recommend you to check the seller's rep on BOI http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...splay.php?f=13 :rolleyes:

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What about the Trader Ratings from Fauna?

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They do not mean a thing ANYONE can put a positive trader rating even if they never made a transaction with the seller, all you have to do is a paid member.

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Neither of those two are people I would do business with.

Look up their names and you will see detailed report of REAL transactions with proves on how those people conduct their business, treat their customer and lie.

Temperature variations during incubation have been known to produce 'striped' animals.
Those are nice normals, but dont count on anything else, especially with the sellers reputation.
I have a gorgeous female with a full stripe. I highly doubt she is genetic, but she looks great.
This is her:
http://www.reptilescanada.com/classi.../IMG_54961.jpg

Good luck

ed clark is a scum bag? I have heard a lot of good about him...I don't know a lot about the popular breeders. Just ralph, mike, ed, and someone else can't remeber his name. There isnt a bob clark right? Idk for some reason thats coming to mind, but i think im just getting mixed up. Why is he a scum bag?

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

On top of all of that Ed Clark is a scum bag you need to stear clear of him and any animal he has offered for sale.

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Best advice I've seen on BPnet all day.

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

ed clark is a scum bag? I have heard a lot of good about him...I don't know a lot about the popular breeders. Just ralph, mike, ed, and someone else can't remeber his name. There isnt a bob clark right? Idk for some reason thats coming to mind, but i think im just getting mixed up. Why is he a scum bag?

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Bob Clark is a decent guy and has been around for quite some time.

Ed Clark is a scumbag flipper who has been known to:

Ship sick animals.
Ship animals infested with mites.
Provide crappy customer service when a deal goes bad.
Take advantage of new hobbiest by selling them WC garbage at inflated prices.

And, is a known business associate of Big Daddy Allen from Alabama....that alone should be enough to steer clear of him.

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Originally Posted by Bluebead

Temperature variations during incubation have been known to produce 'striped' animals.
Those are nice normals, but dont count on anything else, especially with the sellers reputation.
I have a gorgeous female with a full stripe. I highly doubt she is genetic, but she looks great.
This is her:
http://www.reptilescanada.com/classi.../IMG_54961.jpg

Good luck

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i have a gorgeous female with a yellow stripe and its proven genetic but your right there most normals with stripes are caused during incubation, but always remember when u think its a normal it most likely is a normal

Most of the time with CH normals like those, the striped trait is something that wont be passed onto their offspring unless they have a full stripe or close to it. I have a male pastel who has a pretty neat color and pattern, and hes got a broken stripe down his back. I am still waiting to prove him as genetic though.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g.../090120014.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g.../081117001.jpg

http://torontopythongurus.webs.com/a...otoID=25162391

here's a pic of my girl she has a solid stripe from head to tail and its proven genetic

sorry cant get the pic to work. . . here's a link http://torontopythongurus.webs.com/a...otoID=25162391