Gtp

Im picking up a GTP this weekend. Found a guy who is going in the marines and has been trying to get ride of it. Im soooo excited. I have been doing soo much research. Its about an hour drive how do you guys recommend i transport it?? :taz::taz::taz::taz::taz::taz::taz::taz:

best way to transport a GTP is get a fairly deep rubbermaid or sterilite container , put a perch in it ( stick or branch ) something of that nature .
and put a little water in the bottom of container (soaked paper towel will work ) and keep it very warm .

When transporting it i suggest you use a snake bag or a deli cup with paper towels in it. Perched while in a moving vehicle is a horrible idea, imagine being on an hour long rollercoaster ride, thats what it would be like for the chondro. Depending on the state your in, you may want to pick up some hand warmers at walmart as well. Anymore questions, dont hesitate to ask.

Im in ga, and its should be in the 70s when i pick him up. I was thinking i should use a bag. It is just under a year old. God i cant wait. His perch should be as wide as he is right??

Also where can i buy bamboo sticks that are waterproofed?

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Originally Posted by juddb

When transporting it i suggest you use a snake bag or a deli cup with paper towels in it. Perched while in a moving vehicle is a horrible idea, imagine being on an hour long rollercoaster ride, thats what it would be like for the chondro. Depending on the state your in, you may want to pick up some hand warmers at walmart as well. Anymore questions, dont hesitate to ask.

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thats another way as well to transport but bags are usually used to ship not just to take from 1 place to another . most cars offer a smooth and comfortable ride so the "rollercoaster " affect isnt that much in play .
i have transported many GTP's and have never had a problem . but everyone has their own opinion and their own way of doing things ..

How old is the animal? Not sure about plastic bamboo, i use live crape myrtle branches for all my chondro's, they are the perfect perch in my opinion. How old is the animal, and what type of enclosure do you have ready for it. While traveling one more thing, if you have it in the bag, put the bag in a box. As little stress on the animal is what you are going for. No loud bassy music either. How exciting, this makes me want another one!!!:gj:

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Originally Posted by TheVipersHouse

thats another way as well to transport but bags are usually used to ship not just to take from 1 place to another . most cars offer a smooth and comfortable ride so the "rollercoaster " affect isnt that much in play .
i have transported many GTP's and have never had a problem . but everyone has their own opinion and their own way of doing things ..

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Sorry but i imagine them struggling to stay perched comfortably while in a moving vehicle. My humble opinion.

once a gtp is on a perch its on there . unless the snake has some kind of neuro problem, or bad equilibrium ,it will keep it comfortably on the perch .
the less stress the better and the most stress easing for a GTP is coiled on its perch ..

but again like i said everyone has their own way of doing things and their own opinion . my way has worked for many years without problem as im sure your way also has same outcome . i offered a way that works well cause he asked for help . hes heard both methods and he can choose which way he wants to do it .

Agree to disagree partner;) Good luck with your Chondro DSGB! Keep us updated:cool:

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I'm just gonna put in that when I got my guy from Rico Walder it was in a deli cup with paper towel at the bottem. Bags are fine. No perches for shipping from bush master either.

To each their own, but you have one guy saying perch and others saying no. GTPs are not strictly arboreal so being down is fine.

thanks. the chondro is just under a year. i have a perfect size deli cup for it.

Congrats! I'm so jealous!

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Welcome to the club

i could look at those all day and i will when i get mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im uber excited.

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Originally Posted by DSGB

i could look at those all day and i will when i get mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im uber excited.

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I totally understand your excitement man! You're so lucky, I envy you... :rage:

Dutch, you need not worry. It's warming up and I'll be posting lots of pics to help you cope.

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Originally Posted by DavidG

Dutch, you need not worry. It's warming up and I'll be posting lots of pics to help you cope.

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Thanks David...

I know we've been over the fact that they're not that hard to keep... I believe you.. :)

Thing is, I'm moving back to Europe next year, and importing the snakes will cost me a LOT. So I don't want to get anymore snakes until I move; it'll be hard for sure.

Just give me some pics of your beautiful chondros. :bow:

You lucky jerk. European snakes are the hottest! Buy one there, seriously.

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Originally Posted by DavidG

You lucky jerk. European snakes are the hottest! Buy one there, seriously.

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Aren't they also more expensive? I'll post the pics when I get my hands on a nice GTP ;)

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Originally Posted by TheVipersHouse

once a gtp is on a perch its on there . unless the snake has some kind of neuro problem, or bad equilibrium ,it will keep it comfortably on the perch .
the less stress the better and the most stress easing for a GTP is coiled on its perch ..

but again like i said everyone has their own way of doing things and their own opinion . my way has worked for many years without problem as im sure your way also has same outcome . i offered a way that works well cause he asked for help . hes heard both methods and he can choose which way he wants to do it .

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I'm going to disagree with this as well. In my experience, transporting chondros on a perch tends to make them less stable. As with most snakes, when you are in motion, it makes the animals restless and chondros in particular are at risk of falling from their perch or damaging the vertebrae from holding onto the perch. If this was a short trip, I would agree with your idea. Being that it's an hour, I would recommend a SMALL tub with no perch. Something round so the chondro can coil. I would not place a small chondro in a bag, but I would also not allow the access to a perch while traveling either. Loose paper towels as filler and substrate, in a Glad food type container, inside a cooler.

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Aren't they also more expensive? I'll post the pics when I get my hands on a nice GTP ;)

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Where in Europe are you moving back to? I have a couple of chondro friends there. One in particular is making a cross-country U.S. trip this summer and will be staying with me for a couple of days. He is in Holland and has some killer stuff.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne

Where in Europe are you moving back to? I have a couple of chondro friends there. One in particular is making a cross-country U.S. trip this summer and will be staying with me for a couple of days. He is in Holland and has some killer stuff.

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I'll be moving to Holland in the summer of '10. I'll PM you when I have the money and resources to get my hands on a chondro!

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You lucky jerk. European snakes are the hottest! Buy one there, seriously.

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Agreed, i know of a few people that could help you out! Where abouts in Europe?

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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne

I'm going to disagree with this as well. In my experience, transporting chondros on a perch tends to make them less stable. As with most snakes, when you are in motion, it makes the animals restless and chondros in particular are at risk of falling from their perch or damaging the vertebrae from holding onto the perch. If this was a short trip, I would agree with your idea. Being that it's an hour, I would recommend a SMALL tub with no perch. Something round so the chondro can coil. I would not place a small chondro in a bag, but I would also not allow the access to a perch while traveling either. Loose paper towels as filler and substrate, in a Glad food type container, inside a cooler.

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Brandon, i knew you would chime in on this one!

Ok, so i got an email from the guy. Its on!!!! Im pickin him up sunday at 2. Im setting up a cage tonight!!!! Dont worry ill post a million pics!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Agreed, i know of a few people that could help you out! Where abouts in Europe?

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The Netherlands. ;)

Well im pickin him up in about 24 hours. I got this picture of him last night and he had a stuck shed. Should i use the wet pillow case trick? Im setting up a small tub tonight, should i just bump up the humidty when i get him? Im not to sure how old the photo is. How does he look? How old does he look? What is a good size tank for a guy that size? He is being keep in a 10 gallon right now....

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Don't know about the shed, but that's a *BEAUTIFUL* snake!

Well i just got him home. This thing is awesome. The poor snake has stuck shed all over him. I misted the tank down pretty well. Im gonna keep his humidity up for a while and if that doesnt work ill try the wet pillow case trick. Ill post pics soon.

With an animal in this condition I think a tub might be your best bet for a while. I don't have a clue what you're talking about with a pillow case. Get an old cool whip container and put a warm wet cloth at the bottom and put him in then close it up. He'll have plenty of air for a good 20-30 minute bath. 20 qt steralite tub will probably be big enough. However, it's hard to tell without seeing the animal in person. Go with something so he has room to move with heat gradient. He looks around a year or so from the photo, maybe more. It's a biak type from the photo and they can take up to two years to complete their color change. I'd probably give him a better perch, I'm glad this guy is no longer able to have it. It looks very neglected to me. That's my personal opinion, take it as you wish.

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With an animal in this condition I think a tub might be your best bet for a while. I don't have a clue what you're talking about with a pillow case. Get an old cool whip container and put a warm wet cloth at the bottom and put him in then close it up. He'll have plenty of air for a good 20-30 minute bath. 20 qt steralite tub will probably be big enough. However, it's hard to tell without seeing the animal in person. Go with something so he has room to move with heat gradient. He looks around a year or so from the photo, maybe more. It's a biak type from the photo and they can take up to two years to complete their color change. I'd probably give him a better perch, I'm glad this guy is no longer able to have it. It looks very neglected to me. That's my personal opinion, take it as you wish.

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I agree. For at least the next few months i would keep him in a tub, one perch down the middle of the tub length wise, and paper towel substrate. He looks like he's in bad shape. But when he throws a solid shed for you he will be one hot biak!!!

Thanks guys. I'm about to upload some pics i just took. A little bit of his shed came of last night, i put some fake plants in his tank to help rub off some shed and got the humidity up to around 80%. He took a mouse last night and then took a dump. He is quite aggressive, i cant even get 6 inches from him without a strike. How do you recommend i transfer him into a tub?

Also, Im ordering "The More Complete Chondro" today.

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Also, Im ordering "The More Complete Chondro" today.

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I ordered it, should be here wednesday!!

Nice looking chondro. I would skip the wet pillow case and go with a tub setup, no perch, with moist paper towels as the substrate. If the skin doesn't come off with this technique, it would probably be best to wait it out for the next shed.

I would also recommend using smaller perches. Large perches have been known to cause kinks in younger animals that do not usually show up until later in life. If given the choice, chondro usually prefer smaller perches over larger ones.

Other than the stuck shed, the chondro looks very healthy. Good luck and keep us posted as it grows. I have an 8 year old biak that is still changing color today.....they take their time.

Well i put a smaller perch in with him, he explored it last night but never got on it. I tried to see if i could gently take him off but he was not having that. Thankfully i wore gloves so every bite didn't hurt. I gently tickled his tail and had his main coil on my hand but he would not release from his perch nor would he stop biting me. God he is mean! Any tips on how to get a super aggressive GTP of his perch? My copy of "the more complete chondro" should be here tomorrow. Cant wait to read that a few times!!!!!!!!