Does it exsist?

Has any one created the all ORANGE BP Albino Cinny X Albino Cinny

super cinny albino has been done, saw an ad on KS a while back. that would be a great male to pair with your albinos.

JonV

Got a pic?

The albino super cinny is all white, not all orange. For an all orange snake you would need something like RDR's or VPI's patternless (i.e. an albino all gold snake)

And has a Piebald Super Cinny been created

I can't seem to find one...can anyone help us out? Or am I recalling incorrectly that it has been done at all?

JonV

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

And has a Piebald Super Cinny been created

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actually its a pied super black pastel but yes it is called the panda pied.

http://ballroompythonssouth.com/cata...roducts_id=346

Both have been done, and I was disappointed by both of them. I was hoping for a solid yellow or orange snake and a more zebra looking snake, I guess.

i dont know bout disappointed...but the super cinny albino was a waste of time imo cuz its common sense that it will be another all white snake. also i did want them to call the panda pie a cow pie! haha and i wanted it to have a lot more black. The panda pie ROCKS tho

you gotta get crazy creative to think up a snake that hasnt been done. :D pretty hot snakes tho huh. also i bet a GS albino would be close to all orange

Im sure down the line some one will get a Panda Pied lookin like a zebra and the all Orange snake from breeding Albino Cinnys

What about a Albino Spider Pied

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

What about a Albino Spider Pied

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It hasn't been done, but it should be a solid white snake with a yellow face and red eyes.

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Originally Posted by andwhy6

i dont know bout disappointed...but the super cinny albino was a waste of time imo cuz its common sense that it will be another all white snake. also i did want them to call the panda pie a cow pie! haha and i wanted it to have a lot more black. The panda pie ROCKS tho

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Explain how its "common sense" that an albino super cinny would be all white? :weirdface

Albino's are white and yellow. The yellow is the black pattern on the ball, not the brown area.
Super cinnys are an all black snake.

Cross the two, and it sounds to me its common sense that a super cinny albino would be a solid yellow snake.

Surprised it hasn't been done thats my goal already got the Spider and Albino

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

Has any one created the all ORANGE BP Albino Cinny X Albino Cinny

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Actually Albino Super Black Pastel produced by Gulf Coast Reptiles knows as the Blizzard Ball (Not orange ;))

http://stewartreptiles.com/Gallery/S...izzardBall.jpg

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Explain how its "common sense" that an albino super cinny would be all white? :weirdface

Albino's are white and yellow. The yellow is the black pattern on the ball, not the brown area.
Super cinnys are an all black snake.

Cross the two, and it sounds to me its common sense that a super cinny albino would be a solid yellow snake.

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Actually, the yellow on an albino is the brown area. The white area is where the black would be on a wild type. You can see that clearly on albino paradoxes. But I also disagree that it would be common sense that a super cinny albino would be an all white snake. A super cinny is solid brown, so there is obviously a coat of yellow pigment throughout. It would seem to me that common sense would tell you that if you add the albino gene to remove the black pigment, you would be left with a yellow wash, to some degree. I'm still hoping that the super cinny albino will have some color, unlike the super black pastel albino.

Thats what im thinking it would be all ORANGE

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

Actually, the yellow on an albino is the brown area.

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You're correct, I reversed that.

wouldnt this be almost all orange:
An albino reduced pattern orange ghost spider.

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Thats what im thinking it would be all ORANGE

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I still think it will be an all WHITE snake, even though the cinny is a more brown snake. Maybe the the albino champange will be and all ORANGE snake, but of course only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by andwhy6

also i bet a GS albino would be close to all orange

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RDR did those and yeah they are pretty close; scroll down to clutch 27:

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/bi...thons_3_07.asp

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But I also disagree that it would be common sense that a super cinny albino would be an all white snake. A super cinny is solid brown, so there is obviously a coat of yellow pigment throughout.

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This is not necessarily the case. I agree with andwhy that it'll be an all white snake. The super black pastel and super cinny are basically animals expressing melanin over their whole body. I would guess (and this is just a guess) that the super cinnys are "brown" because they are not expressing the melanin to as high a level as the super black pastels not because they are likewise producing the yellow pigment over their whole body as well and it is competing with the melanin to make the black turn brown.

To get an all orange snake you would need something that is expressing the yellow pigment over its entire body. As I noted above, the patternless animals of VPI and RDR look to be doing this, at least based on their appearance alone. You would need to do the breeding to be sure. And, as Bearded noted, the champagne may also be a candidate for this though an albino of this would likely have some markings on its back corresponding to the typical patterning of champagnes.