Name that boa

Well I just put down a deposit on a lovely RTB, the issue is we aren't sure of the locale. The guys at Emerald Bay think its a guyana/colombian cross but i'm not exactly sure. Here are a few shots of her to help out.

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...80_6598428.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...81_6590202.jpg

Any help? Any at all?

Some full body shots and pics of the tail might help the boa-gurus take a more educated guess. I would guess though, if the guy you got it from doesn't know and they believe it to be some sort of cross...then the chances of ever knowing exactly what it is are pretty slim.

Regardless though....that's a gorgeous face on a gorgeous snake!

That's just nifty because I think I have a pic that may help. All I know is that he/she consistently stuffed her chubby little pointed tail into the pressure point by my arm pit, not amusing in the least bit.

http://photos-e.ll.facebook.com/phot...08_3495838.jpg

If a better pic is needed I can take on or get Ashtin to take one tomorrow and post it.

Oh, and thanks for the comment, it is a b-day present for me (April), but Ashtin really wanted the guyana they had but then they got this little beauty in. She actually fell asleep on her shoulder.

My money would be on some sort of BCI/BCC cross.

The peaks on the saddles resemble that of man BCC species, while the drab color resembles that of a BCI

We kept looking through a RTB book that Emerald Bay has but couldn't find any patterns that anywhere resembled hers.

So could she be a colombian/guyana (or maybe suriname) cross? If I remember from my boa thread I started like last month they were both BCI and BCC.

Here is a quick pic I found of a Guyana.
http://redtailboa.net/classifieds/data/45/Bubba-1.jpg
Her saddle peaks kinda resemble this one.

And the sides match this Colombian.
http://redtailboa.net/classifieds/da...2527Merlin.JPG

Here is a Surinam
http://redtailboa.net/pp/data/500/su...a005_cpweb.jpg

After looking at them she looks like the guyana/colombian cross is possible with looking at color and saddle patterns, And I think she may have inherited more colombian if that is the case because her tail is dark like it.

Here is a full body shot for anyone willing to try.

http://photos-d.ll.facebook.com/phot...35_6366498.jpg

Judging from the peaks on the saddles (more bcc than bci) and the color of the tail (more bci than bcc), I'd venture that you do have a bci/bcc cross. As for the locale of the bcc... well... anyone's guess is as good as mine. A pure BCC has the potential to be identifiable from it's looks, but not always. When you get into the crosses it gets too tricky to tell exactly.
However, I think it's safe to say you got yorself a good-lookin cross. If the guy you got it from says it's a guyana/columbian cross, I'd take his word for it.

I am getting it from my local exotics store that I go to and my fiancee works at. They got it on a trade in for another animal and I think the guy that traded it in said it was a guyana/colombian cross. Either way he is as sweet as can be, just gotta think of a name...

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

My money would be on some sort of BCI/BCC cross.

The peaks on the saddles resemble that of man BCC species, while the drab color resembles that of a BCI

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Agreed, the BCC influence isn't really strong, but its there.

Works for me.

an aberrant bci im not seeing any bcc its just abberrant

I haven't the experience with boa's to comment on the possible genetics at play here so I'll just say it's nice crossed with nicer. :) In the end, if this is a pet and not a snake you're going to breed from, then it's really a moot point. Looks like a lovely boa, sounds like it's got a great temperment so enjoy. I may be primarly focused on ball pythons, but our home would seem empty without a boa in it.

Hi, I saw that you have BCI/BCC Hybrid in your sig. I wouldn't say that the snake is a hybrid, but a cross. A hybrid is a mix between two species. A cross is a mix within a species.

Thanks everyone for the ideas. He will be a pet and probably not a breeder. I wonder what random stuff I could get out of him since we don't exactly know his genetics...maybe in the future just for fun. He does have a GREAT disposition and is a complete sweetheart. He will crawl onto our shoulders and either sit there or fall completely asleep (I have photo evidence of this event, lol).

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

Hi, I saw that you have BCI/BCC Hybrid in your sig. I wouldn't say that the snake is a hybrid, but a cross. A hybrid is a mix between two species. A cross is a mix within a species.

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I'll fix that right away.

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Originally Posted by Little B-Py

Thanks everyone for the ideas. He will be a pet and probably not a breeder. I wonder what random stuff I could get out of him since we don't exactly know his genetics...maybe in the future just for fun. He does have a GREAT disposition and is a complete sweetheart. He will crawl onto our shoulders and either sit there or fall completely asleep (I have photo evidence of this event, lol).



I'll fix that right away.

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He looks great, congrats! I love our boas. They have great dispositions.

Just a small side question, judging from the pics, how long would he last in a 40 breeder (it might actually be a 50 because I saw a sticker on it yesterday that said 50e)? It seems like he will have plenty of space for awhile, I have his tank setup w/ the typical 2 hides and big water bowl on aspen. I'm gonna get flexwatt for the UTH.

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Just a small side question, judging from the pics, how long would he last in a 40 breeder (it might actually be a 50 because I saw a sticker on it yesterday that said 50e)? It seems like he will have plenty of space for awhile, I have his tank setup w/ the typical 2 hides and big water bowl on aspen. I'm gonna get flexwatt for the UTH.

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Normally people go by the snake’s length. The enclosure should be as long as 2/3 of the snake’s length.

I think it's like 4' long if I remember correctly. He doesn't use up all of the tub that Emerald Bay is keeping him in so I don't think we will have to upgrade anytime soon.

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I think it's like 4' long if I remember correctly. He doesn't use up all of the tub that Emerald Bay is keeping him in so I don't think we will have to upgrade anytime soon.

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I keep my adult female in a 4x2x2 cage. She is around 6.5' and around 12.5lbs. I do not think that I will need to upgrade her cage, but if she grew to over 8' I would upgrade her to a 6' cage. I beleive that most boa keepers keep their boas in a 4' cage.

I have typically heard 6'x2'x2' but since mine is a male I assume he isn't going to get to 8', correct?

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I have typically heard 6'x2'x2' but since mine is a male I assume he isn't going to get to 8', correct?

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Most males stay quite a bit smaller than females, so it is doubtful that it will get 8'. It is hard to determine how large the male will get since he is a cross, but I would guess that he will get around 5 to 6'.

Well I remeasured the tank and it's only 3' long but I think he is 4' so he will be good for awhile. BUT turns out I have a little more money than expected so we will be getting him MUCH sooner than I though, I'm SOOO happy! I don't know anyone who doesn't absolutely love an early bday present. I also put in an order at RBI for 2 Ranco pre-wired thermostats and flexwatt for the tank so once that is in he will be mine. WOO HOO!!! Sorry, kinda happy about it.