So what do you guys and gals think of this...

Parents are unknown, but there are possibly some form of morph as the breader i got him from, well she had a few nice morphs.

how about this "marker" its this strong along the majority of his body.

I want to breed him, but i dont know what i can afford or want when the time comes to get a female. there are so many nice choices.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2eai70y.jpg

thats really cool.I like that alot

That's one hott belly!! What does the rest of him look like? Show us more pics!!

And mister... what are you smoking in your avvie? ;)

cool belly shot....

Very interesting belly on that one. What do you suspect he might be hiding?

I gave a few away like this this past season.

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That's one hott belly!! What does the rest of him look like? Show us more pics!! Ill geT some up tomorrow, ill grab a decent digi cam from my office. mine is a garbage HP thats about 6 years old. since my friend dropped my decent one.

And mister... what are you smoking in your avvie? ;)

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a cigarette, i know bad habit. But i know what your thinking if you want to discuss this further i think its best for PM :P

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Originally Posted by gixxerrobballs

cool belly shot....

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thanks

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Very interesting belly on that one. What do you suspect he might be hiding?

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Originally Posted by Deborah

I gave a few away like this this past season.

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were they just plain normals or carrying something genetic morph wise?

so does anyone think these belly patterns are cause for curiosity?

Obviously you are asking if we think the snake is het for pied, right?

I have a girl with those same markers running down the last 2/3rds of her body. But I know she is a normal.

Het pied markers are only really worth getting excited over if you know there is a chance the snake could be a possible het, even then it is not conclusive.

But since he is a male, you can always breed him to a female, hold back all the daughters, and breed them back, you never know.

Justin hatched out pastel pieds, and Mark Mandic hatched out Axanthic Pieds not knowing for certain what was being passed on (although Mark knew he had het pieds, he did not know he had het axanthics).

Bruce

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Obviously you are asking if we think the snake is het for pied, right?

I have a girl with those same markers running down the last 2/3rds of her body. But I know she is a normal.

Het pied markers are only really worth getting excited over if you know there is a chance the snake could be a possible het, even then it is not conclusive.

But since he is a male, you can always breed him to a female, hold back all the daughters, and breed them back, you never know.

Justin hatched out pastel pieds, and Mark Mandic hatched out Axanthic Pieds not knowing for certain what was being passed on (although Mark knew he had het pieds, he did not know he had het axanthics).

Bruce

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thanks, i dont really know much about the het pied stuff. just first time ive personally seen a normal looking bp with the belly like that. i always look at the BPs in the store i get my live feeders from.

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thanks, i dont really know much about the het pied stuff. just first time ive personally seen a normal looking bp with the belly like that. i always look at the BPs in the store i get my live feeders from.

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It is a het pied marker, no doubt about it. But normals can have them, and hets cannot have them.

So it is a crap shoot. But if there is a chance the snake is het for pied, then would I put stock in it... yeah, probably.

My het pied does not have them, but my normal girl does.

There is a section in the Hunter's Guide to the morphs on it.

Regardless it is a sharp marker. :)

Bruce

Very cool marker!!!

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were they just plain normals or carrying something genetic morph wise?

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They were 50% Possible Het pieds I guess I will have to wait till my friends breed them to find out whether or not they prove out.

Now would I buy an het based on markers alone NO, however if this is sold as a normal, you like this snakes and have a few years to spare to see if there is something to it why not?

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They were 50% Possible Het pieds I guess I will have to wait till my friends breed them to find out whether or not they prove out.

Now would I buy an het based on markers alone NO, however if this is sold as a normal, you like this snakes and have a few years to spare to see if there is something to it why not?

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i got him for $10 as she needed to find a home for him :) i plan to breed him regardless if he is anything special or not. id just like to get some cute little hatchlings!