Which pastel line for lemonblast?

Hi- looking to maybe pick up a pinstripe to breed with my Graziani line pastel (who is also Het Ghost).
I know that a Pastel x Pin = lemonblast. The word "lemon" in that name got me wondering if it's referring to a NERD lemon pastel in particular.
What kind of difference does Graziani vs Lemon make when being bred to a Pinstripe?

I think that the intensity of the yellow may be affected by the pastel that you choose to use. Lemon pastels are generally known for being a much more intense yellow, and Graziani's for their blushing.

Lemonblast is the name of the morph, not that it is from the Lemon line of Pastels.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Lemonblast is the name of the morph, not that it is from the Lemon line of Pastels.

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Thats what I said too, but Jon from Cold Blooded refuses to call his that since they were made with Blondes. Mine is from a Blonde pastel but I still call her a lemonblast...to each their own I guess

It was originally called Lemon Blast because Brian used a Lemon Pastel to make the first Lemon Blasts. I used a Graziani line Pastel to make mine, but I still call them Lemon Blasts.


Hope that helps,

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Originally Posted by FIREball

Thats what I said too, but Jon from Cold Blooded refuses to call his that since they were made with Blondes. Mine is from a Blonde pastel but I still call her a lemonblast...to each their own I guess

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I agree with Jon from Cold Blooded. They should only be called lemonblasts if they were produced from a lemon bloodline. I also do not think that people should call Pastel Ghosts, "POG" / "SPOG" if they are not created from an orange ghost bloodline.

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

I agree with Jon from Cold Blooded. They should only be called lemonblasts if they were produced from a lemon bloodline. I also do not think that people should call Pastel Ghosts, "POG" / "SPOG" if they are not created from an orange ghost bloodline.

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Well i didn't know about the pog and spog I thought it had to be orange ghost due to Pastel Orange Ghost being abrievated to POG. Who do you know selling pastel ghosts as POG. This is why visual morphs are so bad in my opinion. People are using the cheapest pastel and the cheapest whatever to produce that valiable combo morph. I have seen bee's that look like spiders. I have seen blasts that are very dingy looking. The worst of it is that i sold a local pet store some normals last year that were bright and found them selling them as pastels a week later. What a world.

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Originally Posted by snakedork

Well i didn't know about the pog and spog I thought it had to be orange ghost due to Pastel Orange Ghost being abrievated to POG. Who do you know selling pastel ghosts as POG. This is why visual morphs are so bad in my opinion. People are using the cheapest pastel and the cheapest whatever to produce that valiable combo morph. I have seen bee's that look like spiders. I have seen blasts that are very dingy looking. The worst of it is that i sold a local pet store some normals last year that were bright and found them selling them as pastels a week later. What a world.

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Thats why you as a breeder need to breed for quality and not junk. And buy quality, not junk.

It's a great way to continue the great lines out there with the best there is out there..

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Originally Posted by snakedork

Well i didn't know about the pog and spog I thought it had to be orange ghost due to Pastel Orange Ghost being abrievated to POG. Who do you know selling pastel ghosts as POG. This is why visual morphs are so bad in my opinion. People are using the cheapest pastel and the cheapest whatever to produce that valiable combo morph. I have seen bee's that look like spiders. I have seen blasts that are very dingy looking. The worst of it is that i sold a local pet store some normals last year that were bright and found them selling them as pastels a week later. What a world.

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Here is a thread that includes a discussion on the subject: http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...l+orange+ghost

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Thats why you as a breeder need to breed for quality and not junk. And buy quality, not junk.

It's a great way to continue the great lines out there with the best there is out there..

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excellent point!! and i agree fully with the POG and SPOG thing.

what should people call them if the are not from the lemon blood line? pastel pins?

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Thats why you as a breeder need to breed for quality and not junk. And buy quality, not junk.

It's a great way to continue the great lines out there with the best there is out there..

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but convince everyone else to do the same is impossible. But breed a better snake and the world will beat a path to your doorway to spend more money for quality. Or atleast the people you want to sell snakes to anyway.

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Originally Posted by snakedork

but convince everyone else to do the same is impossible. But breed a better snake and the world will beat a path to your doorway to spend more money for quality. Or atleast the people you want to sell snakes to anyway.

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Its not about everyone else when it comes to your own breeding stock... It's about what you have and what you think is the best.

heather you are right. But as far as being able to sell what i don't keep back i think its going to be heart breaking for me to sell my snakes at a price someone else is selling a less quality animal for just to be competative in the market at a show or online. But if i have that attitude i
A. wont sell any snakes and be overrun with what i produce.
B. just quit because there is nothing i can do about it.
I have seen several people buying animals this year that ha this "pastel" was online for 75 bucks im going to breed it to this normal female i bought for 40 bucks and they have plans of making money on this. All they want is the cheapest they can find. I just hope at the end of the day my quality out shines there price. I know i can do it :)

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Originally Posted by FIREball

Thats what I said too, but Jon from Cold Blooded refuses to call his that since they were made with Blondes. Mine is from a Blonde pastel but I still call her a lemonblast...to each their own I guess

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That's what I was wondering about. Not that I really care what they are called- if I have a great looking pastel (Graziani, NERD or whatever) and a great looking pin, then why not have a go and see how they come out.
Maybe a Grazi-Blast? A Jungle-Pin? It matters not.

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Originally Posted by snakedork

I have seen several people buying animals this year that ha this "pastel" was online for 75 bucks im going to breed it to this normal female i bought for 40 bucks and they have plans of making money on this. All they want is the cheapest they can find. I just hope at the end of the day my quality out shines there price. I know i can do it :)

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Originally Posted by azpythons

ummm howd you know my top secret money making scheme?????

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i can go one better i bet that female came from craigslist. I am the great snakedorkinny I know all your thoughts and know your future too.

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Originally Posted by FIREball

Thats what I said too, but Jon from Cold Blooded refuses to call his that since they were made with Blondes. Mine is from a Blonde pastel but I still call her a lemonblast...to each their own I guess

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It's a matter of preference really, at the end of the day it's just a Pastel + Pinstripe, the name only implies what kind of pastel it is. He doesn't use Lemon Pastels he uses Blonde Pastels so it only makes sense, at least to me, that instead of calling them Lemon blasts he'd call them Blonde Blasts. But again I also believe that it's just a matter of preference.