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  • 02-25-2009, 07:43 PM
    stratus_020202
    Panic Mode!!
    I just got a new baby bp for valentine's day. He has been wonderful. I've had him out every day since his week alone. Last night he became very jumpy, and skiddish. I just put him back thinking he was just grumpy.

    When I checked him this morning i noticed his eyes getting real cloudy. His belly is also pink and his colors are very dull. Classic shedding pattern. Sorry I don't have any pics. He's not feeling photogenic at the moment. Now here's the problem we are moving to a new house on Friday, and I doubt he'll be shed by then.

    I wanted to stress him as little as possible, but this complicates things. Has anyone ever moved a shedding python before? I already asked about the feeding thing, and fed him last friday. So, he should be fully digested by now. How can I make this move as stress free as possible since he's shedding?? I just hope the humidity isn't too bad during the move. It's only a few miles from here.

    Oh and I took him to be weighed also while getting him some food. He has doubled is size in a week, and he's at 113g. yeah! I'm just a littel nervous being a first time mom, and you guys are great!!!
  • 02-25-2009, 07:46 PM
    BallPythons9
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    I think he'll be okay. :)
  • 02-25-2009, 07:51 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    As long as you aren't throwing him all over the place, he will be fine. Just give him a week to settle in after the move so he looses the gumpies.
  • 02-25-2009, 07:52 PM
    llovelace
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    He'll be just fine, how soon are you moving? Never mind read it. I took one of my girls to a herp meeting last week, she was in blue just put him in a snake bag then in a tupperware type container for transport.
  • 02-25-2009, 07:54 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    This Friday, the day after tomorrow. I'm getting out of this stinking apartment. But I would wait a whole year, if it was better for Apollo (The baby bp).
  • 02-25-2009, 08:04 PM
    gu1do24
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    when i was bringing my axanthic home he was in shed, and shed in the snake bag, im sure he will be fine.
  • 02-25-2009, 08:06 PM
    Slim
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    Ok, first, take a deep breath and calm down. This will all be ok. I assume you already have a plan for moving your little guy. Since he's in shed, you'll just need to make a few adjustments. First, get a cotton pillow case, plain white if you can. Then get a small Rubbermade tub, the 6 or 12 qt size should be fine. Next pick up a hand warmer type heat pack.

    Prepare for the move by poking some holes in the tub. When you're ready to roll, soak the pillow case and the wring it out till it's just damp. Place your boy in the pillowcase, and put it in the tub. Open the heat pack and tape it to the underside of the tub's lid. Put the lid on the tub, and secure it with tape or bunge cords. He'll be warm, secure and humid for your trip to the new house. You can even leave him in the tub till you have his enclosure set up and warm.
  • 02-25-2009, 08:11 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    That's great! I'm getting ready to up his food size just a little after he gets settle in. Then after a few days, I'm going to take him to get weighed again. It seems like he gains a couple g's every day i see him.
  • 02-25-2009, 08:15 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Ok, first, take a deep breath and calm down. This will all be ok. I assume you already have a plan for moving your little guy. Since he's in shed, you'll just need to make a few adjustments. First, get a cotton pillow case, plain white if you can. Then get a small Rubbermade tub, the 6 or 12 qt size should be fine. Next pick up a hand warmer type heat pack.

    Prepare for the move by poking some holes in the tub. When you're ready to roll, soak the pillow case and the wring it out till it's just damp. Place your boy in the pillowcase, and put it in the tub. Open the heat pack and tape it to the underside of the tub's lid. Put the lid on the tub, and secure it with tape or bunge cords. He'll be warm, secure and humid for your trip to the new house. You can even leave him in the tub till you have his enclosure set up and warm.

    Perfect. Thanks a lot. It hypes my neves a little because i'm so ready to move. Today was the last day at work, and there is just so much going on. You're right though, just breathe......
  • 02-25-2009, 11:08 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    Just to reassure you a bit....

    One of our 08 hatchlings just left last Sunday on a road trip from northern Ohio to Texas. Two days driving with an overnight stop at a hotel. My daughter (her new owner) called me tonight to report that the little snake did beautifully and is now happily settling into her new enclosure with no obvious signs of problems.

    If you plan well for them, they are pretty hardy critters. :)
  • 02-26-2009, 11:07 AM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno View Post
    Just to reassure you a bit....

    One of our 08 hatchlings just left last Sunday on a road trip from northern Ohio to Texas. Two days driving with an overnight stop at a hotel. My daughter (her new owner) called me tonight to report that the little snake did beautifully and is now happily settling into her new enclosure with no obvious signs of problems.

    If you plan well for them, they are pretty hardy critters. :)

    That's great! I actually have a veterinary assisting certificate, but they don't teach you a lot about snakes. This is why I find them so fascinating. To me, a dog or a cat is easy, but I have so much to learn about Apollo. It's exciting!
  • 02-26-2009, 01:57 PM
    DotFuzz
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    I just got a pastle from a show a month ago and i got him when i first walked into the show and he was vary deep in shed. The guy said he should shed by the nextday. but he ended up sheding in the plastic container on the way home. I put him in his new encloser and waited a week to feed and he eat fine. So i think you'll be fine. Good luck ^_^!
  • 02-26-2009, 02:09 PM
    Toronto Python Gurus
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    i attended a reptile expo last weekend and there were ball pythons that were in shed mode, im sure the breeders at the show travelled alot longer then the couple miles you said you had to travel . . . im sure he will be fine as long as you dont pack him in a box and throw him in the back of a moving truck:O but i dont think anyone is that crazy . . . i usually transport my ball pythons in pillow cases and keep the pillow case in my hands or under my shirt sweater between my forearm and side (kinda cold here this time of year) if you tie the pillow case at the top it avoid escapes or attemps . . . hope this helps and good luck with the move, and it would probably be best to give him a week or so to get used to the new house and relax after the move!
  • 02-26-2009, 02:10 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stratus_020202 View Post
    That's great! I actually have a veterinary assisting certificate, but they don't teach you a lot about snakes. This is why I find them so fascinating. To me, a dog or a cat is easy, but I have so much to learn about Apollo. It's exciting!

    You're probably like a nurse whose medical knowledge makes her worry endlessly about every little bug her own kids get. My granny used to say nurse's have the sickest kids because they fuss over them too much LOL

    The big thing dear is to just relax. Realize that as long as you are providing the basics (safe enclosure, appropriate food size, heat, hides, etc.) that these snakes do pretty good. After all they survive living in rat holes and termite mounds in the wilds of Africa without our help, right? Some don't make it sure in the wild but that's a given. They really aren't all that delicate given good basic care which I'm quite sure you're doing.

    Your worry is a sign you care and that's a good thing but don't make yourself nuts over it. Helping nervous new owners turn into confident snakekeepers is a large part of why BPNet exists in the first place. :)

    Snakes are fascinating. Actually one of the most fascinating things to me when I was learning (and am still learning) about them was how many of their adaptions are just what our regular pets do, just in a snake way. Things like how they hear, smell and deal with their world. They might not bark to get our attention but they can show us their needs. They may not have floppy ears like the family mutt, but they hear just fine in their own way and react strongly to what they hear. It's fascinating to learn to "speak snake". :)
  • 03-02-2009, 06:28 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    Update on Apollo. Well, the move went great. Other than the fact it was 20 degress outside when we moved. He stayed nice and comfy in my over heated car, in a tub, and pillowcase. And he shed yesterday!:banana: Only two days after the move. Now just waiting until feeding day to make sure he's 100 percent comfortable. I haven't seen him since the shed, but he was working at it for a while. I cleaned his cage, and he's been sleeping in his hide since. Thanks everyone for your help!!
  • 03-02-2009, 06:43 PM
    Slim
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    Thanks for the update. Glad everything worked out for you!
  • 03-02-2009, 06:48 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    Glad to hear it went well. If he's tucked in his hide, he's likely quite content in there. Happy feeding day when it comes (and congrats on the new home). :)
  • 03-03-2009, 10:31 AM
    muddoc
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    Sorry I decided to interject so late in the thread. I am glad to hear that your snake got moved and shed all fine. However, what really caught my attention was that you said your snake gained 57 grams in one week. Either one of two things happened, the scale was incorrectly tared in one of the weighins, or you are feeding your snake way too much. Most ball pythons that I have dealt with will double there weight (at younger ages) in about 4 to 6 weeks. It can be done in three if you are feeding aggressively. I was just a bit concerned that you were overfeeding or feeding too large of a food item.

    Sincerely,
  • 03-03-2009, 12:31 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Panic Mode!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by muddoc View Post
    Sorry I decided to interject so late in the thread. I am glad to hear that your snake got moved and shed all fine. However, what really caught my attention was that you said your snake gained 57 grams in one week. Either one of two things happened, the scale was incorrectly tared in one of the weighins, or you are feeding your snake way too much. Most ball pythons that I have dealt with will double there weight (at younger ages) in about 4 to 6 weeks. It can be done in three if you are feeding aggressively. I was just a bit concerned that you were overfeeding or feeding too large of a food item.

    Sincerely,

    Well, I didn't weigh him when i bought him. He just looked twice the size of the baby bps at the pet store when i took him to get weighed. I feed one fuzzy a week, but I'm going to try and upgrade since his shed. Also, I haven't fed him since last Monday. So, this time he's waiting a little bit longer for food. I want to wait to make sure he's comfortable in his new home. Sorry for the confusion. It could be a new hatch in the pet store. I was just shocked at how much bigger he looked. I'm going to take him again this weekend and see if he's grown since the shed. I'll update then too.
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