whats the difference...

between a normal pastel, and an enchi pastel?

I really don't know why you would waste your money, IMO my pastel looks just as good as any enchi, what the real difference, or is there?

they are completely different mutations. the super enchi is nothing like a super pastel, and the enchi affects the pattern as well while the pastel just affects color.

IMO the enchi has incredible potential for combos.

check out the tiger(enchi/desert combo morph) for example, a truly incredible one was posted in this thread: http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=85558

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

between a normal pastel, and an enchi pastel?

I really don't know why you would waste your money, IMO my pastel looks just as good as any enchi, what the real difference, or is there?

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They are two very different morphs.

In my opinion, neither looks like the other! :P That is reason enough to spend my money on both morphs. :gj:

HOLY CRAP!!

Thats unreal!

I was just going through all of the pics and the tiger was the one that caught my eye the most, without even reading what it was. Truely astounding! So now what was used to make that? A lot of those I don't really get how they are produced. When there is like 3 different morphs types in one snake, how is that done?

http://media.photobucket.com/image/e...120167.jpg?o=3

http://media.photobucket.com/image/p...C00330.jpg?o=9

first one is a enchi pastel, and the second is a normal pastel, I'm sorry but there really is no BIG defference. The only thing I'm seeing is slight darker coloring on the enchi. I understand the combo's they make are really stunning, but honestly there just a pastel with a different name to me lol.

take a look at the pattern. The pastel gene does not affect patterning.

The enchi gene naturally causes a reduced pattern in any snake that carries it. They both produce a yellow color.

The name "enchi pastel" is something I disagree with people using. I prefer the word "pastel" to be reserved for Graz. pastels, jungle pastels, lemon pastels etc. since they are all variations of the same gene. Enchi pastel is as genetically different from "pastels" as cinnamon pastels are(another mutation that I prefer people to drop the word "pastel" from)

Enchis are also not as common and haven't been around as long, so they command a higher price.

Enchi's are a pattern and color morph, often producing a very reduced/ banded animal. And as they grow older, the black pattern of the lines will turn a chocolate color, and there is a pixelated orange/green "look" to em. Pastels also have a very faded head. The super form is amazing.

Enchi's are subtle morph if you are not used to looking at lots of different balls, and can take some practice to pick up on them. But once you see an enchi in person, you're likely to never confuse it with a pastel ever again! :)

This is our Enchi, who I think looks quite different from a pastel. ;)
http://www.metalmonkeyexotics.com/bl...-weasel-03.jpg

Example: NERD
Enchi
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
Super Enchi
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html

Pastel
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
Super Pastel
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html

wow that is a perfect example of an enchi :D I love it!

An outstanding example of an Enchi really looks nothing like a Pastel. There are some color similarities, but the pattern on a really nice Enchi is very striking. When looking at an Enchi that is less than stellar, especially in pictures, I can see where you might not think this morph is anything special. I can say the same about Pastels. In person, prime examples of either morph are stunning, and very different from eachother.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

wow that is a perfect example of an enchi :D I love it!

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couldn't agree anymore!

Thanks for clearing that up, you don't know how much that used to bother me lol. I am fairly new to BP's, but I know my way around sort of. I'm just starting to learn all the morphs you don't see that much, so thats why some of them are a little harder for me to tell the difference. But in that pic you can really see the reduced pattern as compared to a normal pastel. But how is that tiger made? I don't understand how you get three morphs in one snake? Weird....Anyone know?

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Originally Posted by dsmalex97

couldn't agree anymore!

Thanks for clearing that up, you don't know how much that used to bother me lol. I am fairly new to BP's, but I know my way around sort of. I'm just starting to learn all the morphs you don't see that much, so thats why some of them are a little harder for me to tell the difference. But in that pic you can really see the reduced pattern as compared to a normal pastel. But how is that tiger made? I don't understand how you get three morphs in one snake? Weird....Anyone know?

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Well, it depends on if the animal is a heterozygous animal, or a homozygous.

In genetics, an animal will pass along one gene to its offspring. Since a homozygous animal has two pairs of the morph gene, all of the offspring are guaranteed to get one copy of the morph gene. Making them heterozygous.

It takes time and years to get 3 or more genes into one animal. ;)

There's a huge difference, IMHO.

Here's my lemon pastels:

Matt Cook took this picture of the male I produced:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...a/DSC01622.jpg

My female I produced:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...a/IMG_4757.jpg

Their father:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...ton/Winny2.jpg

My enchi female:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...nchi/enchi.jpg

and an adult enchi at NERD:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...2007/Enchi.jpg

thats a hot enchi you got there :gj: