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  • 02-19-2009, 08:25 PM
    wilomn
    Something Encouraging for a Change
  • 02-19-2009, 08:31 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    I saw that..

    Thank goodness for people like that
  • 02-19-2009, 08:32 PM
    Cheryl Marchek aka JM
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    Good one
  • 02-19-2009, 08:34 PM
    Smith285
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    I feel like anyone would have done the same thing.... I mean really, who would honestly try to make the free throws knowing the situation?

    This is kind of like in soccer when a guy gets hurt and they give the ball back to the other team.
  • 02-19-2009, 08:48 PM
    dizzy
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    Wow. A news story out of Wisco that I'm not ashamed of. lol

    Thanks.
  • 02-19-2009, 08:50 PM
    Muze
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    This is what it's all about.
  • 02-19-2009, 09:22 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    Beautiful story.
  • 02-19-2009, 09:36 PM
    Slim
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    I saw that story on Yahoo. Nice to see there are some coaches out there who understand that it's more important to mold young men and women than win a game.
  • 02-19-2009, 09:39 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    The kids impressed me too.

    I see it sometimes on the soccer field but this was....significant for some reason.

    It's just nice to see people being nice simply because it's the right thing to do, not for gain.
  • 02-19-2009, 09:42 PM
    mooingtricycle
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    Its a bittersweet story.... You dont see things like this too often. Thanks for sharing :D
  • 02-19-2009, 09:56 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    Thanks for sharing this...wonderful story.
  • 02-19-2009, 10:05 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    Wow that was cool on how they supported him :gj:
  • 02-20-2009, 12:02 AM
    Smith285
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    I'm not trying to take anything away from what they did, I think it was truly a class act and a great sign of sportsmanship. However, I think this type of stuff happens a lot more than what is reported in the news.

    the part that bugs me about this being such a great story is the fact that these things aren't reported on as much as cases where a dad got in an argument with another dad in the stands. And believe me, I've played sports my entire life and am going on 4 years of college baseball, I've seen acts such as these happening more than any negative things happen.
  • 02-20-2009, 07:41 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    Thanks for sharing that story, Wes. Got me teary eyed over my morning coffee here but it's one I intend to share with my own kids later today. There's so much garbage out there about sports figures, this is a nice way to balance that message of spoiled privilege with what true sportmanship is all about. :)
  • 02-20-2009, 10:57 AM
    wilomn
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Smith285 View Post
    I'm not trying to take anything away from what they did, I think it was truly a class act and a great sign of sportsmanship. However, I think this type of stuff happens a lot more than what is reported in the news.

    the part that bugs me about this being such a great story is the fact that these things aren't reported on as much as cases where a dad got in an argument with another dad in the stands. And believe me, I've played sports my entire life and am going on 4 years of college baseball, I've seen acts such as these happening more than any negative things happen.

    This is one of the reasons I posted this here.

    I'm a soccer dad. Been one for a loooooong time. I've seen some cool stuff and some examples of stupidity that are just .... not sad, but make you wonder how some people get the key in the ignition you question their intelligence so much.

    I'm all for winning, playing just as hard as you can, but do it fairly. Win or lose it's better that way.
  • 02-20-2009, 11:07 AM
    Little B-Py
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Smith285 View Post
    This is kind of like in soccer when a guy gets hurt and they give the ball back to the other team.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    I see it sometimes on the soccer field but this was....significant for some reason.

    That is exactly what I was thinking when I was reading. I played high school soccer and one season of college and There was a comradery (sp?) when it came to someone getting hurt. Our team always kneeled, always gave them the ball back, etc. We were typically the worst team in our district but we were some of the most respectful.
  • 02-20-2009, 12:24 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Something Encouraging for a Change
    I've been giving this thought for the last couple of days. Here's what I've come up with.

    Fair is fair and we all know whether any given situation is or is not.

    However, most of the time if there is a way to win, WIN, without being fair but following the "rules" of any given situation, fair falls to the wayside as victory is claimed, not earned mind you, but claimed.

    Sure, in the rules the kid was late so the other team was entitled to two free throws and I get that. But what really counts is not how many kids were there at the beginning of the game but how they play as individuals which then dictates how they play as a team.

    No one played below their skill level, no one let the other team win, they just evened up what they saw as an unfair advantage.

    How hard is it for most of us to pass up the chance to make things even if it means we may not win, come out ahead, be first or best or most noticed? Sure, sure, it's a competitive world out there. Who makes it that way? Is it you and I or that great mysterious never seen but ever present NEED to be the winner?

    So many are fine with winning by cheating or taking an advantage that helps them not by increasing skill or ability, not just in sports but work and home, everywhere we go, that I, well I am what I am largely because of this.

    I read a book a long time ago about a guy who wanted to be an example to the young growing up. In a contest with other youths he had a chance to not use his full, natural, worked incredibly hard to hone abilities, and thereby let his friend win a competition but he had a dilemma.

    If he did not play to his best he would not only know that he could have beaten all comers but didn't which would not have been a problem as hubris was foreign to him but, and here's the kicker, he knew it would instill false pride in his friend if he let that friend win.

    It tore the guy up to be in that position.

    So, what to do. Play with honor, don't smear your opponents but accept that you are better, not a better man, though that would seem to follow, or be dishonest and lose by not doing the best you can?

    Knowing you lost on purpose could fester and cause problems down the road. Letting someone win unfairly could lead them to believe they had abilities they did not which could lead to huge disappointment down the road when a contest was lost to a person whose abilities were less than the original person who played below his ability to let his friend win a contest he could not win by skill alone.

    I have digressed. Again.

    Fair is fair and wrong is not. A fine line was reached in the basketball game and it was handled fairly. No advantage was deserved and so none was taken. The rules were followed and the game was played. Everyone came out ahead because somehow these guys recognized a cusp and acted rightly.

    Next time you have a chance at an advance, victory, or even just sticking it to someone who deserves it but you know deep down that it is not a fairly given chance.....what will you do?
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