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  • 02-17-2009, 08:12 PM
    joshn6805
    scale rot?
    does anybody have a clue on what this is. im puzzled i don't really know what to think or if i should carry her to the vet or what so im looking for second opinions here before the wallet comes out. as for the setup shes in a 29 gal glass tank, with an undertank heater that has a undertank heater set on 94 on the glass. newspaper is the substrate but i had turf in there till bout 2 months ago. http://flickr.com/photos/34726543@N05/3288369117/
  • 02-17-2009, 08:30 PM
    JeffJ
    Re: scale rot?
    yep thats scale rot for sure the blisters are a giveaway. whats your humidity like? are you keeping it clean and not allowing the substrate to become wet?

    how are you measuring the temp on the surface? and are her hides clean? also 94 is to hot for a constant temp. i offer a small area in the tank thats 94, the rest is 90*F that gradients to wards the cool side to 80*F

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-scale-rot.htm
  • 02-17-2009, 08:40 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: scale rot?
    Definitely looks like a trip to the vet is in order. :yes:
  • 02-17-2009, 08:42 PM
    nixer
    Re: scale rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tigerlily View Post
    Definitely looks like a trip to the vet is in order. :yes:

    yup thats somewhat advanced its surely time for the vet
  • 02-17-2009, 08:43 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: scale rot?
    Take it to the Vet ASAP. That is nothing to ignore...
  • 02-17-2009, 08:43 PM
    JeffJ
    Re: scale rot?
    I agree, thats going to turn into an open wound shortly.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:02 PM
    joshn6805
    Re: scale rot?
    okay thats what i was afraid of. going to be going to the vet shortly. do you think it can wait till tomorrow or is it an emergency that should be treated right away. she was on newspaper and spilt her water id say she sat on it about an hour. as soon as i saw it i changed it. im contemplating switching back to turf, it was just easier for me to clean and more durable than paper.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:03 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: scale rot?
    Take her in as soon as possible, but if it has to be a day away, that is fine.

    Put her on white Papertowels so that you can monitor any fluids that are escaping from the wounds.

    TAKE HER OFF THAT HEAT.

    Turn the temps down to 85 for now.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:07 PM
    joshn6805
    Re: scale rot?
    she just ate about 45 mins ago too, so now im worried about the vet stressing her out and a regurge.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:09 PM
    JeffJ
    Re: scale rot?
    reduce the heat to 90*F 94 is to hot, and get her in a clean sterile enclosure NO WATER. do not let her back in her enclosure until you have cleaned everything. and get her to the vet tomorrow.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:11 PM
    JeffJ
    Re: scale rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joshn6805 View Post
    she just ate about 45 mins ago too, so now im worried about the vet stressing her out and a regurge.

    hopefully she wont but if she does there isnt anything you can do she should be treated. also 45min in water is that long enough to get to advanced stages of scale rot? im more inclined ot think this was starting a while back and you noticed when it blistered.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:18 PM
    joshn6805
    Re: scale rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JeffJ View Post
    reduce the heat to 90*F 94 is to hot, and get her in a clean sterile enclosure NO WATER. do not let her back in her enclosure until you have cleaned everything. and get her to the vet tomorrow.

    will make sure to do that. thanks for all your help. it did start to happen a while back but i disregarded it like a Dumb*** and it really progressed. im gonna take her to a vet tomorrow that's number was given to me by a breeder at a local reptile show so she will be getting the best care available. ill keep everybody updated tomorrow as to what the vet says. thanks again guys.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:23 PM
    JeffJ
    Re: scale rot?
    good luck.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:25 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: scale rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JeffJ View Post
    reduce the heat to 90*F 94 is to hot, and get her in a clean sterile enclosure NO WATER. do not let her back in her enclosure until you have cleaned everything. and get her to the vet tomorrow.

    94 is not too hot, and I would not remove all water from the enclosure. I would just make sure the water bowl is not big enough to soak in, since this is what you want to prevent. You do not want your snake more dehydrated since that blistering is leeching water from the snake's system.

    I agree that you shouldn't be as concerned about a regurg as your need to treat that belly as soon as possible. Plus the likelihood of the vet seeing you first thing in the morning is very slim, so you'll most likely be okay in that regard anyway. Just be careful and as gentle as possible when you do transport your snake.
  • 02-28-2009, 10:56 PM
    joshn6805
    Re: scale rot?
    well its been 10 days and i thought i would update on my girls progress. the vet diagnosed it as retained shed and dermatitis. this kinda threw me cause i never knew snakes could get dermatitis, but here are some pics of her now.
    http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...2267553c40.jpg
    http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...19ed32e17a.jpg
    this is also what the vet prescribed to put on her twice a day. its sodium chloride mixed with something.
    http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...da909685cd.jpg
  • 02-28-2009, 11:17 PM
    JNieporte
    Re: scale rot?
    She's looking better :) Glad you got her fixed up.
  • 02-28-2009, 11:59 PM
    Slim
    Re: scale rot?
    Great job cleaning her up!!
  • 03-01-2009, 12:06 AM
    joshn6805
    Re: scale rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Great job cleaning her up!!

    yea there's still a little redness, but i have never seen a case of snake dermatitis that's kinda odd dont ya think.
  • 03-02-2009, 02:09 AM
    southb
    Re: scale rot?
    My first female normal had that once. It never was that bad and went away. I assumed it was because she had moved all her bedding away and was laying right on the heat pad. That was before I had a thermostat. Glad shes doing ok.
  • 03-02-2009, 10:23 AM
    JeffJ
    Re: scale rot?
    looks 1000000000% better amazing! :) verry glad to see that its being resolved. im still very sure its scale rot. the vet just called it by a different name. it looked to much like scale rot thats for sure.
  • 03-02-2009, 10:32 AM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: scale rot?
    I'm glad she is doing better. Good job! :gj:
  • 03-02-2009, 10:37 AM
    Skiploder
    Re: scale rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JeffJ View Post
    looks 1000000000% better amazing! :) verry glad to see that its being resolved. im still very sure its scale rot. the vet just called it by a different name. it looked to much like scale rot thats for sure.

    Scale rot is necrotizing dermatitis.
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