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If BPs can't "see" red...

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  • 02-16-2009, 12:50 PM
    Little B-Py
    If BPs can't "see" red...
    I have heard they can't see red and that is why you can put in a red viewing light and they have no idea. Question: What would housing one in a red tub do? I saw some for cheap at walmart, they had locking tops and everything. Just curious.
  • 02-16-2009, 01:11 PM
    SnM_Man
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    i think theyd percive the red on the tub as black or grey depending on how much visible light there is ... but one concern that pops out at me is - would they be able to get any light at all in a solid colour tub ?... cuz they need more or less a 12 hour ambiant light schedual so they know when its daytime, so theyll sleep n whenn its night time.
  • 02-16-2009, 01:13 PM
    Little B-Py
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    the tubs I saw were clear but had a red tint to them, not solid. So would it allow them to see prey better? Kinda like looking at something bright red on a black background.
  • 02-16-2009, 01:15 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    They don't need any photo period what-soever.
  • 02-16-2009, 01:16 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    Bps do not need light whats so ever, being nocternal.
  • 02-16-2009, 01:21 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    BPs may not `need`sunlight, but they do benefit from a day night cycle... that is part of a feedback loop that helps all animals regulate.

    Just because I am not up all night, does not mean that the sun setting does not trigger several physical, psychological, and physiological processes that contribute to me actually deciding it is time to crawl into a bed so that I do not end up face down on my computer keypad.

    Bruce
  • 02-16-2009, 01:22 PM
    SnM_Man
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    umm .. i believe they do... there is alot of debates whether they need UVA/B light ... but if they dont have a photo period they wont know when to rest n when to hunt ... case in point i had mine in my closet for awhile n left the doors shut on it for a few days when i was outta town ... when i came back she was lookin for lunch instead of a midnight snack
  • 02-16-2009, 01:29 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnM_Man View Post
    umm .. i believe they do... there is alot of debates whether they need UVA/B light ... but if they dont have a photo period they wont know when to rest n when to hunt ... case in point i had mine in my closet for awhile n left the doors shut on it for a few days when i was outta town ... when i came back she was lookin for lunch instead of a midnight snack

    Can I see those debates?

    In the wild, Bps spend 90% of their life in rodent holes and termite mounds, in darkness. I guess my snakes cycle is when I turn my beardies lights on in the morning and off at night, not that it helps the snakes any.
  • 02-16-2009, 01:52 PM
    SnM_Man
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    Can I see those debates?

    In the wild, Bps spend 90% of their life in rodent holes and termite mounds, in darkness. I guess my snakes cycle is when I turn my beardies lights on in the morning and off at night, not that it helps the snakes any.

    well 90% isnt 100% and studies show that pretty much any animal will benifit from some UVA/B rays because it causes the production of vitiman D3 which promotes calcium absorption but this subjectin its self is another topic... so start another thread ... i hate when my threads get hi-jack :P
  • 02-16-2009, 01:54 PM
    Little B-Py
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    I realized that happened after post 4, but oh well.
  • 02-16-2009, 01:54 PM
    nixer
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Little B-Py View Post
    I have heard they can't see red and that is why you can put in a red viewing light and they have no idea. Question: What would housing one in a red tub do? I saw some for cheap at walmart, they had locking tops and everything. Just curious.

    what i would do it take the light in hand and a ball in the other turn off all the lights and turn the red light on and point it at the ball. if its pupils get small then they can see the light if not then well they must not be able to see it
  • 02-16-2009, 02:32 PM
    SnM_Man
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Little B-Py View Post
    the tubs I saw were clear but had a red tint to them, not solid. So would it allow them to see prey better? Kinda like looking at something bright red on a black background.

    personally i cant think of why it would help the BP see its prey any better .. but you never know.. i suggest u test ur theroy by seeing if u get a better feeding response in a red tub from a white/clear tub ... u just mite be onto something here lol
  • 02-16-2009, 02:45 PM
    Little B-Py
    Re: If BPs can't "see" red...
    well I guess you can think of it this way...assuming a snake cannot see red and insted it sees black or grey, then it would think it was in a black or grey box. Correct? If you think in terms of "heat vision" then something that is "bright" or hot in the heat scale should also in theory stick out more. I guess the only case would be to switch one of mine from their normal, clear, tubs to a red tub and time the feeding response but that in itself is variable. Although I do get a great feeding response from feeding live. That would, again, be another variable, whether you get a better response from live, f/t, fresh killed.
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