What kind of pastel?

I got the two of these pastels from a local shop that got them from separate breeders. The shop did not know the specific type of pastel. I am pretty sure both are different types. I was hoping that someone could help me figure this out. The first is my female the second is my male.
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http://purebreedpythons.com/images/2DSC02691.jpg

http://purebreedpythons.com/images/2DSC02695.jpg

Thanks for the help!

There's no way to really tell a "line" from a different one unless you bought it as a certain "line" In my eyes a pastel is a pastel...

Either way you have some beautiful pastels there! :) Looks like you've got a nice mojave in there too....

I am always hearing people say lemon bumble bee looks better than jungle bumble bee etc. So I was wondering if anyone can tell what mine where by appearance. Either way I have a nice spider and ian g black pastels to make some bumble bees, pewters, as well as super pastels. That is my Mojave hiding in the back there. Her tub was more accessible for photos.

Lemon is NERD's line of pastel...they do tend to be a little bit brighter than your normal pastels on average.

They're selling Pastels like that at Pet Shops now? Wow! Some of the pet shops around here carry Pastels from time to time, but none of them are as high quality at your two. Congrats on picking those guys up!!!

Don't mind my cardboard boxes, they are temporary. I have hides coming from RBI.

Is your pastel in the same cage as that mojo? :weirdface

No my pastels' tub is on top of my rack. My mojos tube was easier to photograph in.

They look like the same line. Colour can be pretty variable with pastels, especially if they are from the same male and different normal females.
Hard to tell from pics, but nice pastels!!!

Pictures never do these guys justice. In person the male is much brighter than the female. I can't wait to make supers! I still have a couple years. :(

I dont want to be the one to start another one of these threads but you are going to QT right. Im sorry but I have to ask. :) Also got any full shots of your rack looks like you built it yourself. I always like seeing ppls home made stuff.

It is possible to identify some lines of pastels from each other but in order to do that you need much better photography skills.
-Steven

They came from my collection I already had established, so no need ot QT. I do QT any new additions though. My photo skills aren't the problem, it's my lack of good lighting.

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Originally Posted by Douglesser

They came from my collection I already had established, so no need ot QT. I do QT any new additions though. My photo skills aren't the problem, it's my lack of good lighting.

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Gotcha got tunnel vision and thought that you just got them. My apologies.

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Originally Posted by Douglesser

They came from my collection I already had established, so no need ot QT. I do QT any new additions though. My photo skills aren't the problem, it's my lack of good lighting.

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I like daylight for trying to get good colour pics, especially with my pastels. I have two that arent the best colour and one that is awesome. somehow lighting makes the pics all look similar unless its outside with the right colour backdrop.
Wicked start to superpastels! what are your plans after that?

My main goal is to start selective breeding the well known morphs to produce better examples of each morph. But Pewter bees, killer bees, blue eyed lucys, and proven Homozygous spiders, and pins are in the planning, to name a couple. I know the proven Homozygous dominant genes will take a awhile to prove, but will be well worth it.

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Originally Posted by Douglesser

My main goal is to start selective breeding the well known morphs to produce better examples of each morph. But Pewter bees, killer bees, blue eyed lucys, and proven Homozygous spiders, and pins are in the planning, to name a couple. I know the proven Homozygous dominant genes will take a awhile to prove, but will be well worth it.

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I hear you on the Homo-dom! I'm leading into that kind of project with spiders also. It would be awesome to have more control over clutch genetics, and a super spider would be awesome. I'm not sure it will work, but I am breeding from one male right now and have another outcrossed male to put to the female offspring. If I'm lucky I'll then go back to the spiders with a bumble bee.

I have to admit, genetics has got me thinking differently about alot of things... I'm hooked lol

I think picking the right parents, even in normal breeder females, will help clean up and improve the morphs.
Good luck man!
Albie

Just keep all the offspring from spiderxspider and breed them to normals. Who ever produces all spiders is most likely a super. After you get a couple clutches from them you can be pretty confident it is a super. Hopefully get a male and female. Breed them together and create full clutches of SUPERS!

I love playing the odds game. Long process but would be rewarding.