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  • 02-15-2009, 11:31 PM
    dakotachristy84
    ??What price??
    i have a few snakes that i got from my cousin. he is in the process of moving and didn't have time for them so i took them from him to sell. i am not a good snake person. i like them i think they are cool and i am ok handling them but i like my bearded dragons better. i'd rather breed crickets, roaches, and superworms then mice. they stink to much. ok well enough chatting heres ther list. i am not sure of their weights. i'm getting a scale tomorrow so i might be able to post it then.

    07' 1. pastel
    07' .1 spider
    what would be the price for each one seperate and for both them together.

    07' 1. 100% het yellow blush albino
    07' .1 100% het albino
    price for both or seperate. i do have paperwork on them from the breeder, or i hope to. i still have to contact him and see if he can email me the info.

    07' normal
    04' normal

    i just need a rough idea. i know there are some people who are trying to rip me off but i don't have enough time to research each snake and since most people here already know what they are doing and are breeders what better people to ask


    the link below is to the photo's

    http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/d...isty84/Snakes/

    just copy and paste and away we go. thanks in advance for any info. :banana:

    you can also email me the info @
    thecrowchristy84@yahoo.com
  • 02-16-2009, 07:39 AM
    Bloodsong
    Re: ??What price??
    Do you plan on shipping these or are they only for local pickup? If only for local pickup please PM me with your whereabouts. I may be interested in the Spider/Pastel couple.

    Bloodsong
  • 02-16-2009, 07:52 AM
    Dave763
    Re: ??What price??
    The weight is a factor and sex of course. To get a good idea go to kingsnake and browse around.
  • 02-16-2009, 09:18 AM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dakotachristy84 View Post
    i have a few snakes that i got from my cousin. he is in the process of moving and didn't have time for them so i took them from him to sell. i am not a good snake person. i like them i think they are cool and i am ok handling them but i like my bearded dragons better. i'd rather breed crickets, roaches, and superworms then mice. they stink to much. ok well enough chatting heres ther list. i am not sure of their weights. i'm getting a scale tomorrow so i might be able to post it then.

    07' 1.0 pastel
    07' 0.1 spider
    what would be the price for each one seperate and for both them together.

    07' 1.0 100% het yellow blush albino
    07' 0.1 100% het albino
    price for both or seperate. i do have paperwork on them from the breeder, or i hope to. i still have to contact him and see if he can email me the info.

    07' normal 0.1
    04' normal 0.1

    i just need a rough idea. i know there are some people who are trying to rip me off but i don't have enough time to research each snake and since most people here already know what they are doing and are breeders what better people to ask


    the link below is to the photo's

    http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/d...isty84/Snakes/

    just copy and paste and away we go. thanks in advance for any info. :banana:

    you can also email me the info @
    thecrowchristy84@yahoo.com

  • 02-16-2009, 01:05 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: ??What price??
    07' 1.0 pastel $75
    07' 0.1 spider $400
    07' 1.0 100% het yellow blush albino What is this??
    07' 0.1 100% het albino $200
    07' normal 0.1 $150
    04' normal 0.1 $150

    These are just estimations based on what I have seen. I could be wrong :D. I agree, look on kingsnake or fauna classifieds to get a better idea of price.
  • 02-16-2009, 02:10 PM
    anatess
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    07' 1.0 pastel $75
    07' 0.1 spider $400
    07' 1.0 100% het yellow blush albino What is this??
    07' 0.1 100% het albino $200
    07' normal 0.1 $150
    04' normal 0.1 $150

    These are just estimations based on what I have seen. I could be wrong :D. I agree, look on kingsnake or fauna classifieds to get a better idea of price.


    I would hope an '07 male pastel would be more than $75? I saw an '08 at the store for $240, so would probably be around $150 elsewhere?
  • 02-16-2009, 02:14 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: ??What price??
    Oh I didn't see that is was 07. Probably more around 125 then. I usually see male 08 at around 75 though. Females are around 200
  • 02-16-2009, 06:15 PM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    here's the weights of the snakes


    07 0.1 Spider: 737grams
    07 1.0 pastel: 397grams


    07 0.1 100% het albino: 850grams
    07 1.0 100% het yellow blush albino: 737grams

    07 0.1 normal: 680grams
    04 0.1 normal: 1786grams

    so based upon weight what's the average going price.
  • 02-16-2009, 06:19 PM
    JKExotics
    Re: ??What price??
    I sell baby '08 Pastel males for 150 as do many other breeders, where are you getting 75 from? That 07 can go for around 250 or so.
  • 02-16-2009, 06:44 PM
    RhacHead
    Re: ??What price??
    Do u have any pics?
    Nevermind I didnt see the link
  • 02-16-2009, 08:33 PM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    so for the spider 400 is good price and the pastel 250??
    any idea on the others?? i know about i should try and get more for the adult female cuz she is breeding size.
  • 02-17-2009, 12:16 AM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    07' 1.0 pastel $75
    07' 0.1 spider $400
    07' 1.0 100% het yellow blush albino What is this??
    07' 0.1 100% het albino $200
    07' normal 0.1 $150
    04' normal 0.1 $150

    These are just estimations based on what I have seen. I could be wrong :D. I agree, look on kingsnake or fauna classifieds to get a better idea of price.

    here's more info on the yellow blush albino

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3Doff%26sa%3DN
  • 02-17-2009, 01:36 AM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dakotachristy84 View Post
    here's more info on the yellow blush albino

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3Doff%26sa%3DN

    A little info for you about the "blush albino" snake.Its a line of bull crap just like MKR is.They were proving to be scammers several times over.So it is only a het albino and thats only if you have genetic papers to prove it.If it has MKR sig as them being the breeders then its probably worthless since they never bred one single snake.They bought snakes from others and lied to TONS of people.Sorry if i sound rude here i am just trying to let you know the truth.
  • 02-17-2009, 10:44 AM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    just because you've never seen one doesn't mean it isnt' real. what did people think when the first spider was bred? i have the gen.s on it. my cousin is friends with the guy who breed this snake. he's been friends with him for quite a while. Right now he is suppose to have a snake that no one has. he bred it himself and won't release the gen. on it. there is someone else on this site that has one. here's the post.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=31166

    like it says in the post:
    The only way to tell is that it was born black and silver like an axanthic. It then browns in the first shed. He is right about the snakes changing after first shed. here's the pictures of my snake and his 3 other siblings. he's one of the black and silver ball pythons.

    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...ellowblush.jpg

    here's what he looks like now
    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/P2110266.jpg

    this one is a normal:
    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/P2110242.jpg

    there is not that much of a difference but with the genetics you can easily see there is a difference.

    this is the snake that the breeder has that he won't release the genetics on. so if you have another pictures of this snake from a different breeder pop it up somewhere. most of the morph's today were produced by people and probably most were questioned just like this guy.
  • 02-17-2009, 12:27 PM
    Muze
    Re: ??What price??
    I would definitely ask for more for the Spider. $700+
  • 02-17-2009, 12:47 PM
    Smith285
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dakotachristy84 View Post
    just because you've never seen one doesn't mean it isnt' real. what did people think when the first spider was bred? i have the gen.s on it. my cousin is friends with the guy who breed this snake. he's been friends with him for quite a while. Right now he is suppose to have a snake that no one has. he bred it himself and won't release the gen. on it. there is someone else on this site that has one. here's the post.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=31166

    like it says in the post:
    The only way to tell is that it was born black and silver like an axanthic. It then browns in the first shed. He is right about the snakes changing after first shed. here's the pictures of my snake and his 3 other siblings. he's one of the black and silver ball pythons.

    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...ellowblush.jpg

    here's what he looks like now
    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/P2110266.jpg

    this one is a normal:
    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/P2110242.jpg

    there is not that much of a difference but with the genetics you can easily see there is a difference.

    this is the snake that the breeder has that he won't release the genetics on. so if you have another pictures of this snake from a different breeder pop it up somewhere. most of the morph's today were produced by people and probably most were questioned just like this guy.

    I don't get it... so it's a morph that looks exactly like a normal?
  • 02-17-2009, 12:55 PM
    asplundii
    Re: ??What price??
    I thought I posted this in here but I may be delusional...

    I think you might find this thread enlightening:

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...t=faded+albino

    I have not researched it much more since then but I stand by the comment that I made in that thread. Basically it is as Joe mentioned above. Only guarantee your snake is a het albino is if it had an albino parent. The agent responsible for the switch from axanthic-looking to normal looking may or may not be tied directly to the albino allele. I have my suspicions but they are just that. I can not find anyone with a solid reputation that has done the necessary work to prove one way or another so I do not think you can guarantee that these silver to brown switchers are 100% hets based on that trait alone.
  • 02-17-2009, 01:26 PM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    A little info for you about the "blush albino" snake.Its a line of bull crap just like MKR is.They were proving to be scammers several times over.So it is only a het albino and thats only if you have genetic papers to prove it.If it has MKR sig as them being the breeders then its probably worthless since they never bred one single snake.They bought snakes from others and lied to TONS of people.Sorry if i sound rude here i am just trying to let you know the truth.

    Ok now i know what you meant by the snake. i had no idea that MKR were scammers. But i guess that's a good thing that i didn't get it from them. The breeder is Steve Markevich. he owns serpents den. google it. he's on myspace. he's the one that breed the 100% het albino and the 100% het yellow blush albino. he sold them to my cousin Rory. you can talk to him on myspace and ask him. he also bred this snake.

    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...knownsnake.jpg

    ok for some reason the picture didn't come up on the last post. if you can find another snake that looks like this one let me know.
  • 02-17-2009, 01:41 PM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    check out more photo's of the energy ball
    http://www.reptilegeeks.com/forums/d...thon-hatching/
  • 02-17-2009, 01:44 PM
    asplundii
    Re: ??What price??
    Umm... The Energy Ball is not an albino so I am not sure how it relates to the "blush" albinos we are discussing in this thread ???
  • 02-17-2009, 01:48 PM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asplundii View Post
    Umm... The Energy Ball is not an albino so I am not sure how it relates to the "blush" albinos we are discussing in this thread ???

    sorry i guess it really doesn't have anything to do with the albinos, but the same guy that breed this snake is where my cousin got the 100% het albino and the 100% het yellow blush albino from. so i guess i just threw that on there just to let everyone know that i didn't get these snakes from some fraud company who never bred snakes before. this guy knows what he's doing. from what i've been talk he's been doing this for 25+years.
  • 02-17-2009, 01:50 PM
    asplundii
    Re: ??What price??
    Ah, gotcha. I thought you were saying the Energy was some kind of "blush" albino... My mistake
  • 02-17-2009, 01:53 PM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    the snake is actually for sale. i am not sure what he wants for it but i am sure it's a lot.
  • 02-17-2009, 04:48 PM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dakotachristy84 View Post
    just because you've never seen one doesn't mean it isnt' real. what did people think when the first spider was bred? i have the gen.s on it. my cousin is friends with the guy who breed this snake. he's been friends with him for quite a while. Right now he is suppose to have a snake that no one has. he bred it himself and won't release the gen. on it. there is someone else on this site that has one. here's the post.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=31166

    like it says in the post:
    The only way to tell is that it was born black and silver like an axanthic. It then browns in the first shed. He is right about the snakes changing after first shed. here's the pictures of my snake and his 3 other siblings. he's one of the black and silver ball pythons.

    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...ellowblush.jpg

    here's what he looks like now
    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/P2110266.jpg

    this one is a normal:
    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/P2110242.jpg

    there is not that much of a difference but with the genetics you can easily see there is a difference.

    this is the snake that the breeder has that he won't release the genetics on. so if you have another pictures of this snake from a different breeder pop it up somewhere. most of the morph's today were produced by people and probably most were questioned just like this guy.

    Well i would like to see this blush albino not a het.Since you linked this to the thread involving Andre i was the one whom revealed to him that he was ripped of by MKR since there is no such thing as a blush albino ball python.Sorry but i dont buy this guy has them but does not give info on the genetics.I have been around long enough to know the truth about ball pythons and the needed genetics to produce them.The way you are describing these snakes is exactly how Andre explained them to me way back then.The only thing you "might" have is a het for albino ball python pair.I say might be because its obvious the snakes Andre had are involved here.Now take a second and think about why Andre dumped his snakes.If they were het for this new morph he would have been in the money by now but he realized the truth and dumped them.Once again if you can show me a pic of a blush albino(not a normal albino or lavender) i will believe you then and only then.Sorry to be blunt here
  • 02-17-2009, 05:35 PM
    ColinWeaver
    Re: ??What price??
    A 700g female spider is worth a lot more than $400.
  • 02-17-2009, 06:13 PM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColinWeaver View Post
    A 700g female spider is worth a lot more than $400.

    but the problem is getting someone to pay for her. i have someone coming up on the 23 to check out the 2 het pair if he takes them for $450 i'm thinking about keeping the spider and the pastel and breeding them. also still getting rid of the 2 normals. i've never shipped a snake before. i've had a bearded dragon shipped to me so i know how it's done.
  • 02-17-2009, 06:16 PM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    Well i would like to see this blush albino not a het.Since you linked this to the thread involving Andre i was the one whom revealed to him that he was ripped of by MKR since there is no such thing as a blush albino ball python.Sorry but i dont buy this guy has them but does not give info on the genetics.I have been around long enough to know the truth about ball pythons and the needed genetics to produce them.The way you are describing these snakes is exactly how Andre explained them to me way back then.The only thing you "might" have is a het for albino ball python pair.I say might be because its obvious the snakes Andre had are involved here.Now take a second and think about why Andre dumped his snakes.If they were het for this new morph he would have been in the money by now but he realized the truth and dumped them.Once again if you can show me a pic of a blush albino(not a normal albino or lavender) i will believe you then and only then.Sorry to be blunt here

    i didn't mean he wouldn't give me the genetics on the 100% het yellow blush albino snake, was he won't do it on this snake

    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...knownsnake.jpg

    i have the genetics on the yellow blush
  • 02-17-2009, 06:37 PM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dakotachristy84 View Post
    i didn't mean he wouldn't give me the genetics on the 100% het yellow blush albino snake, was he won't do it on this snake

    http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...knownsnake.jpg

    i have the genetics on the yellow blush

    I am only talking about this yellow blush albino stuff not this other snake.You posted info on morph king reptiles bieng the first to produce this snake.One big problem they NEVER produced 1 single snake the entire time the clowns were together.They bought everything they sold from REAL breeders and lied to thousands of people until they got busted.The only albino ball pythons in existence are the albino and the lavender albino period.I just did a google search and the only info that pops up about this "yellow blush thingy" is from MKR AKA lieing scammers.So if your friend has these yellow blush albinos i want to see a pic of one.If they are real someone has to have the morph as hets dont run forever ;)
  • 02-17-2009, 07:42 PM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    Well i would like to see this blush albino not a het.Since you linked this to the thread involving Andre i was the one whom revealed to him that he was ripped of by MKR since there is no such thing as a blush albino ball python.Sorry but i dont buy this guy has them but does not give info on the genetics.I have been around long enough to know the truth about ball pythons and the needed genetics to produce them.The way you are describing these snakes is exactly how Andre explained them to me way back then.The only thing you "might" have is a het for albino ball python pair.I say might be because its obvious the snakes Andre had are involved here.Now take a second and think about why Andre dumped his snakes.If they were het for this new morph he would have been in the money by now but he realized the truth and dumped them.Once again if you can show me a pic of a blush albino(not a normal albino or lavender) i will believe you then and only then.Sorry to be blunt here


    i found this website. it's in the 4th row down. http://www.suburbanpythons.co.uk/gallery.htm

    if you still don't think the yellow blush is real then contact steven directly. google him or google serpents den cuz i am done with it.
  • 02-17-2009, 08:30 PM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dakotachristy84 View Post
    i found this website. it's in the 4th row down. http://www.suburbanpythons.co.uk/gallery.htm

    if you still don't think the yellow blush is real then contact steven directly. google him or google serpents den cuz i am done with it.

    Well that only shows it was a pic provided by MKR.I do not need to contact anyone because i know the truth.If you have not noticed numerous breeders have observed this thread and not one has chimed in to correct me if thier really was a real yellow blush albino ball python.So i think that is enough proof in itself ;).Sorry if i upset you but someone had to let you know the truth here.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:21 PM
    MetalStryker
    Re: ??What price??
    Hi.. im sorry to butt in here. But the Yellow Blush Albino is an actual morph. It is starting to be seen more this last year. MKR was a crappy company that did shady things. But does that mean this morph isnt real.

    Please take your time to inform yourself before jumping down peoples backs. There are so many people in this industry that feel that they are ALWAYS RIGHT that even when proven wrong they will not give up on thinking they are right. The reason no reputable breeder is coming onto this thread is because they feel it is a waste of their time to try to bother with people that act like you.

    Also, take your time to read this thread: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...t=faded+albino

    Look closely at pages 3 and 4 of that thread. Then please come back here and try to support that there is no such thing as a yellow blush albino.

    If you still feel you are right then that is your choice. Do not be mean to others about it though. Show some level of respect, and maybe people will show you respect back.

    That is all I have to say
  • 02-17-2009, 09:22 PM
    dakotachristy84
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asplundii View Post
    I thought I posted this in here but I may be delusional...

    I think you might find this thread enlightening:

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...t=faded+albino

    I have not researched it much more since then but I stand by the comment that I made in that thread. Basically it is as Joe mentioned above. Only guarantee your snake is a het albino is if it had an albino parent. The agent responsible for the switch from axanthic-looking to normal looking may or may not be tied directly to the albino allele. I have my suspicions but they are just that. I can not find anyone with a solid reputation that has done the necessary work to prove one way or another so I do not think you can guarantee that these silver to brown switchers are 100% hets based on that trait alone.


    ok i am a little confused about this are we fighting about the fact that my snake might not be 100% het yellow blush albino or that the yellow blush even is an actually morph?? ok the first thing i read when i oped this link was " I have seen Albino Balls that have been High Contrast and I have seen them Low Contrast but I have never seen one as Low Contrast as the one I just hatched out." now from what i understand with the yellow blush is as it gets older it's color gets richer. and this snake will turn into look like this snake 4th row down (i don't know if this is MRK or MKR or whatever those frauds were.) i would ask the person who posted this if she still has the snake and to get some updated photo's

    http://www.suburbanpythons.co.uk/gallery.htm


    in a later post she put up a photo of it's siblings. we'll my snake's siblings were also like these but not the white one.

    probably no one chimed it because of the link the guy posted pretty much explained it all. very clearly to me. i didn't get the snake from the fraud breeder. they had nothing to do with it at all. the het yellowblush albino was breed by steve. if albey's snake isn't a yellow blush then what is it?
  • 02-17-2009, 09:35 PM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MetalStryker View Post
    Hi.. im sorry to butt in here. But the Yellow Blush Albino is an actual morph. It is starting to be seen more this last year. MKR was a crappy company that did shady things. But does that mean this morph isnt real.

    Please take your time to inform yourself before jumping down peoples backs. There are so many people in this industry that feel that they are ALWAYS RIGHT that even when proven wrong they will not give up on thinking they are right. The reason no reputable breeder is coming onto this thread is because they feel it is a waste of their time to try to bother with people that act like you.

    Also, take your time to read this thread: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...t=faded+albino

    Look closely at pages 3 and 4 of that thread. Then please come back here and try to support that there is no such thing as a yellow blush albino.

    If you still feel you are right then that is your choice. Do not be mean to others about it though. Show some level of respect, and maybe people will show you respect back.

    That is all I have to say

    Who is fighting? I was merly informing the OP about the MKR scammers.With all the bad stuff involving anything with a link to MKR i was making sure they did not sell snakes with a unknown(to them) lie that would backfire on them.So before you run your mouth maybe its you that should read up on what was said here.Its obvious you dont have a clue concerning our site here because if someone sees anyone giving wrong advice or anything we DO speakup ;).Oh another thing we do not allow trash mouths here so refrain the trash words :mad:.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:44 PM
    MetalStryker
    Re: ??What price??
    I do know about this site sir. And I do know for a fact that she was not promoting her animals coming from MKR. She just happened to see that there were pictures of them on the internet that HAPPENED to come from MKR. Please read over the link I posted about the Yellow Blush Albino.

    I can say I know more about this thread and things going on it than what you think I do, because I am personally involved as I was the person that recieved these Snakes originally and gave them to the OP.

    I got the snakes from Steve Markevich at Serpents Den. I have been friends with him and worked for him at times, since 2002. I was there when these snakes were bred, laid, hatched and raised.

    I got them in a trade from Steve. At NO time were these snakes involved with MKR and they have no lineage back to MKR.

    As far as trash mouth, a douche is a cleaning device. Its not a fowl word. I am sorry if it offended you, so I will stop using that terminology.

    All I am asking from you is to be civil and not jump down someone throat. If you feel the may be wrong about something approach it in a mature manner and explain to them with out being rude as is the tone set by some of your post, even if it was not meant that way.

    If you have any questions about the snakes, feel free to ask me. Daktoachristy84 is just getting into the Ball python world. So cut her some slack. She is a good honest individual and did not mean to infer that her snakes had anything to do with MKR.

    Thank you
  • 02-17-2009, 09:45 PM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    It looks like everyone is refering to it being faded ;),not blush.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:53 PM
    MetalStryker
    Re: ??What price??
    There are MANY people on that thread referring to it as yellow blush if you read all the way though. Including Steve Marckevich of Serpents Den where the snakes in this thread originated from.

    You, being someone that has been on this site, should also know, that the same morph can been called by many different names. For example: Yellowbellies are also referred to as goblins (ralph davis line).

    So weather it be Faded or Yellow Blush Albino, call it what you want.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:54 PM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MetalStryker View Post
    I do know about this site sir. And I do know for a fact that she was not promoting her animals coming from MKR. She just happened to see that there were pictures of them on the internet that HAPPENED to come from MKR. Please read over the link I posted about the Yellow Blush Albino.

    I can say I know more about this thread than what you think I do, because I am personally involved as I was the person that recieved these Snakes and gave them to the OP.

    I got the snaked from Steve Markevich at Serpents Den. I have been friends with him and worked for him at times, since 2002. I was there when these snakes were bred, laid, hatched and raised.

    I got them in a trade from Steve. At NO time were these snakes involved with MKR and they have no lineage back to MKR.

    As far as trash mouth, a douche is a cleaning device. Its not a fowl word. I am sorry if it offended you, so I will stop using that terminology.

    All I am asking from you is to be civil and not jump down someone throat. If you feel the may be wrong about something approach it in a mature manner and explain to them with out being rude as is the tone set by some of your post, even if it was not meant that way.

    If you have any questions about the snakes, feel free to ask me. Daktoachristy84 is just getting into the Ball python world. So cut her some slack. She is a good honest individual and did not mean to infer that her snakes had anything to do with MKR.

    Thank you

    Well where did these snakes get the genetics from then? The first person to breed them(even though it was a lie) was MKR :confused:.When someone new to the reptile world comes up and wants to sell some snakes that have questionable genetics its common for someone to point things out.We have enough scammers in the world as it is.I am NOT saying the OP was trying to scam anyone though.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:56 PM
    MetalStryker
    Re: ??What price??
    as where they came from...

    Steve Markevich produced an actual Yellow Blush Albino, which he then bred to produce these animals in this thread.

    I have seen the parent albino and can attest to the actuality of the snake as being truly a Yellow Blush Albino.
  • 02-17-2009, 09:58 PM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MetalStryker View Post
    Look closely at pages 3 and 4 of that thread.

    I only read the pages you said to read.
  • 02-17-2009, 10:01 PM
    MetalStryker
    Re: ??What price??
    If you read page 3 and 4 then you would see that the last post made on page 4 was by Steve himself referring to Yellow Blush Albinos.
  • 02-17-2009, 10:07 PM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    Ok if these are supposed to be able to create this yellow blush albinos and she is just getting into ball pythons.Then why is she selling them? I would think this would be a big foot in the door in the ball python world.
  • 02-17-2009, 10:22 PM
    MetalStryker
    Re: ??What price??
    If you must know the personal dealing of what is going on, which in this case because of the genetics, it may be beneficial to justify the sale...

    The reason for the sale is this.

    I am getting married on March 21st of this year. As we ALL know, marriage is a very expensive ordeal, and I am moving to a new house with my wife as soon as we come back from the honeymoon and she doesnt like snakes. So they needed to go to help fund the wedding and for respect for my future wifes lack of love for the reptiles.

    With all the preparations going on, I have not had the personal time to take to sell these animals, and I needed money right away for wedding expenses.

    As a way to help me out... I sold all my snakes to my cousins wife, because she has some free time to then post them for sale. I have been talking to her to help her with the postings. She is not keeping them because I got her heavily into Bearded Dragon Morphs and she has been breeding them wants to focus on them.

    So in order to recoup the money she gave to me for the snakes, she is posting them for sale.

    I hope that clears anything confusion up for you.
  • 02-17-2009, 10:26 PM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    I removed the info from fauna on my own because its not needed here.So sell your snakes to whom ever will take a chance.
  • 02-17-2009, 10:34 PM
    MetalStryker
    Re: ??What price??
    Thank you for removal of the link. It was very mature and upstanding of you.
  • 02-17-2009, 10:38 PM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MetalStryker View Post
    I have known Steve personally for 7 years now.

    This story that you posted a link to was started because of an article posted in the local paper here in my area.

    Now, I know that MANY people believe everything that is printed in the paper. But you, more than anyone.. should know that the media makes anything to do with snakes look bad.

    I know what is said in that forum thread does look bad.. However, I was there, I know first hand everything that went on with that situation, and it was NOT AT ALL how the paper said it was. Steve was a victim in this case by some very bad people.

    Out of respect for Steve, i am going to say it is not my place to bring up that situation in this thread. I think those accusations should stay in and be cleared up in that thread.

    All I will say with that situation is that Steve have NEVER treated his animals poorly, and has always put them before his own needs, even in tough times, they have eaten before him.

    I know the condition of his animals, seeing as I have worked for him many years. So personally have cleaned them up.

    Please be respectful. I acknowledge that thread exists.. but in this case.. we are talking about the existance of a morph.. while reputation does come into play.. lets keep BOI threads in their place so as not to bring daram to another site.

    Thank you.

    Hence why i removed it ;).
  • 02-18-2009, 12:55 AM
    SPJ
    Re: ??What price??
    A yellow blush is a line of albino just like the faded and high contrast lines.
    The yellow blush albinos tends to have more of a solid yellow head and the yellow bleeds out more into where the white would be making a more uniform yellow colored snake.
    The one odd thing about this line is that you can visually tell which normals are hets and which ones aren't when they emerge from the egg.
    The hets have an axanthic look to them but change to a more normal coloring after their first shed.
    Not many people where working with this line due to the originator of it but they are out there and will become increasingly more available over the next few years.
  • 02-18-2009, 01:32 AM
    joepythons
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ View Post
    A yellow blush is a line of albino just like the faded and high contrast lines.
    The yellow blush albinos tends to have more of a solid yellow head and the yellow bleeds out more into where the white would be making a more uniform yellow colored snake.
    The one odd thing about this line is that you can visually tell which normals are hets and which ones aren't when they emerge from the egg.
    The hets have an axanthic look to them but change to a more normal coloring after their first shed.
    Not many people where working with this line due to the originator of it but they are out there and will become increasingly more available over the next few years.

    Steve i know i can trust you so i stand corrected here :P
  • 02-18-2009, 01:41 AM
    Bloodsong
    Re: ??What price??
    Not to sound rude but you basically just admitted you were wrong about this which is admirable. But you also spent the better part of the day calling a new seller a liar and demeaning her. I think an apology is in order. Hide behind the claim that you were trying to "warn" her about MKR "scams" all you want but the fact remains that even when she revealed that the hets were from a completely different breeder you were relentless.

    Bloodsong
  • 02-18-2009, 09:05 AM
    asplundii
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ View Post
    The one odd thing about this line is that you can visually tell which normals are hets and which ones aren't when they emerge from the egg.
    The hets have an axanthic look to them but change to a more normal coloring after their first shed.

    Steve,

    Asking this purely out of my own curiosity to better understand this variant and my theory behind it. Is this statement an absolute? Have all the "axanthic" looking switchers proven to be hets?

    Thanks
  • 02-18-2009, 10:18 AM
    SPJ
    Re: ??What price??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asplundii View Post
    Steve,

    Asking this purely out of my own curiosity to better understand this variant and my theory behind it. Is this statement an absolute? Have all the "axanthic" looking switchers proven to be hets?

    Thanks

    As far as I know, ALL of the hets have had the different look when they hatched.
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