Caramel Albino vs. Hypo Butter?

Can anyone explain the difference of these morphs? I was offered a Caramel Albino for cheap from a friend and I was all for another female caramel but when I saw some hypo butters for sale on ks and I realized I couldn't tell them apart. Heck even my so called "caramel albino" female may be a hypo butter instead which would explain the reason I've never had a kinked baby. The male I bred her to was her son so I didn't buy him as a het anything which has really got me wondering lol. Anyway, I'll try to post a picture of female my friend has after I go over to his house tomorrow. Any help would be greatly appreciated because this is driving me crazy at the moment.:weirdface

A Caramel is a single recessive trait. A Hypo Butter is a combination between Hypo (recessive) and Butter (Co-Dominant, with the super form being an all-white snake).

I need to look at a picture of a Hypo Butter before trying to state physical differences. I haven't seen a picture in a while.

There is a disgustingly awesome ghost butter for sale on KS, if I had the funds and if it was from a different seller I'd pick it up in a second.

JonV

I personly would go for the hypo butter , more ways to get something nice ! here is mine .
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...vandun/bg1.jpg
Carlo

I love the hypo butter, very nice. Can't wait to get one myself!

That is a very nice Hypo Butter Carlo. However, I see none of the purple tints in that animal that a Caramel Albino would have. If you can't tell the difference between a Caramel and Hypo Butter, it is probably because the quality of the pictures is poor (of which Carlo's is a good example of high picture quality). Place the two animals next to each other, and you should have no problem picking the two apart.

Hypo Butter.

I don't want to work with the Caramel line because of the kinks they get in their spines.

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Originally Posted by nevohraalnavnoj

There is a disgustingly awesome ghost butter for sale on KS, if I had the funds and if it was from a different seller I'd pick it up in a second.

JonV

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Are you talking about bigdadywholesales?

Ive seen some hypo butters/lessers in person and Id take one anyway over a caramel.

You should be able to see a noticable difference in the eye colour in addition to the lack of "purple" as already noted.
-Steven

However, I see none of the purple tints in that animal that a Caramel Albino would have. If you can't tell the difference between a Caramel and Hypo Butter, it is probably because the quality of the pictures is poor (of which Carlo's is a good example of high picture quality). Place the two animals next to each other, and you should have no problem picking the two apart.
You are right Tim !:gj:
Carlo

Ok, the pictures are the reason I probably can't tell the difference. I also had another question reguarding the caramel. Has anyone seen the episode of Snake Bytes (can't remember which one) in which he shows an adult caramel named kinks that was kinked at birth and grew out of it! I'm sure if it's on that show it has to be true. The cool thing was he showed a baby made by kinks that was kinked as well and he said it would grow out of it. Is this true?

Well he can't know for sure. However this is why I won't work with Caramels:

YouTube - Kinked Caramel Albinos

Yes I've seen this video as well. But as I've said before out of 14 babies I've never had one. I guess my luck is better than his.

Regarding the "growing out of kinks", every once in a while you will have an animal with a SLIGHT kink or 2 that will grow out of it into adulthood. But if you think about it that doesn't mean that the kink is gone...just means that the kink is no longer visible. I'm sure if you did x-rays on the snake you'd probably see a different story. And even if they did grow out of it and it fixed itself, its still a flawed animal and I wouldn't breed it cause there could be things that we don't see that could be a health risk to the animal or offspring if bred.

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Yes I've seen this video as well. But as I've said before out of 14 babies I've never had one. I guess my luck is better than his.

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No that's because you've only hatched 14...lol. Very happy to hear you've not had any kinks yet but you can't say it'll never happen. That'd be like someone breeding a pastel to 2 normals and getting 14 pastels and saying that their pastel produces all pastels.

How many of those 14 babies were caramels? The kinks tend to only affect the visible caramels, not the hets.

All caramels more than that if you count hets hatched.

I looked at my records and I've had two all caramel clutches. One with nine eggs and the other with five. The first two years I hatched sixteen 100% hets.

I saw both next to each other at a show and they didn't look the same.

I really love the Caramel, but the butter (lesser) hypo is also awesome. That last one is more "glowing".

Caramel Glow are also aweseome :)

Imagine what a Butter (lesser) Caramel Glow would look like !