pastels questions

i have two pastels one being a reg. pastel (boy) and the other a blonde pastel (girl). ive been told i would get 25% might be super, 50% being pastel, and 25% being normal. is that correct??

now as far as the normals go do they carry the pastel gene. for instance would the normal be 100% pastel het normal


sorry just really confused people say this people say that

what is correct????? that's my question of the day

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Originally Posted by zombie&lemons

ive been told i would get 25% might be super, 50% being pastel, and 25% being normal. is that correct??

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Yes, that is correct. Each egg from a Pastel x Pastel clutch would have a 25% chance of being a Super Pastel, a 50% chance of being a Pastel, and a 25% chance of being Normal.

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Originally Posted by zombie&lemons

now as far as the normals go do they carry the pastel gene. for instance would the normal be 100% pastel het normal

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No. The Pastel gene is co-dominant. A normal has 0 allels for the Pastel gene. A Pastel has 1 allel for the Pastel gene, technically making it heterozygous for Super Pastel. Since the Pastel trait is co-dominant, though, the Heterozygous form (Pastels) are visually different than both Normals and the Homozygous form (Super Pastels). A Super Pastel carries 2 allels for the Pastel gene, making it the Homozygous form. A snake will give one of each of its allels to its offspring. Because of this, a Super Pastel (pp) bred to a Normal (NN) will produce all Pastels (Np) since no matter which allel it gets from the Super Pastel and which allel it receives from the Normal, it will always receive one Pastel allel (p) and one Normal allel (N).

Hopefully this makes sense.

yeah it made since so if you breed a super with a reg pastel what would the normals be?

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Originally Posted by zombie&lemons

yeah it made since so if you breed a super with a reg pastel what would the normals be?

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There would not be any normal

Super Pastel X Patel = 50% Super Pastel + 50% Pastel

thats even cooler how much do supers run anyways???? if i went to the local pet store and sold them how much should i get

I've seen some nice Super Pastels available for around $900 or so.

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Originally Posted by zombie&lemons

thats even cooler how much do supers run anyways???? if i went to the local pet store and sold them how much should i get

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I would not be getting a super from a pet store. You'll pay probably double in price, and I would not be convinced I would be getting a super and not just a pastel.

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

I would not be getting a super from a pet store. You'll pay probably double in price, and I would not be convinced I would be getting a super and not just a pastel.

Bruce

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I think he is thinking is going to sell super pastels to a petstore. If that is the case, good luck finding any petstores to buy super pastels.

oh i know one s and s exotic animals http://www.sandsexoticanimals.com/ they have all sorts of morphs there. they wanna buy my blond pastel from me

they dont advertise the pie bald they have

oh yeah i did find out for sure that my normal is a CB not a WC i talked to the owner just the other day asked her a few questions about the bp they had for 50 bucks a week or so ago and she said they were CB's so either she lied or she told the truth. but i never told her i bought one from her. so yeah!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by zombie&lemons

how much do supers run anyways???? if i went to the local pet store and sold them how much should i get

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i should be able to get a nice super pastel for around $1,000 for a female and i seen males for $800
i just started a payment plan for an 07 female super pastel for $1,000
you would have better luck selling them on the internet then to a pet store because they pay wholesale prices not what the snake is worth

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Originally Posted by nova2door

i should be able to get a nice super pastel for around $1,000 for a female and i seen males for $800
i just started a payment plan for an 07 female super pastel for $1,000
you would have better luck selling them on the internet then to a pet store because they pay wholesale prices not what the snake is worth

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A local guy in my area is selling a super Pastel Female for $700. I didn't like the look so I passed. You just have to look and the deals are out there. Just have to verify you are getting something you really want. I have my ideas about what makes a super pastel high quality and what makes it low quality and this one definately fell into the low quality area for me.

[QUOTE=Gloryhound;977720]A local guy in my area is selling a super Pastel Female for $700. I didn't like the look so I passed. QUOTE]

i'm with you on that i'd rather pay a couple dollars more for a nice one then got a cheap one that i don't like the look of

ive been becoming friendly's of the owners of the local pet stores (not pet co or pets mart) but local pet stores and they are very intrested in buying supers and morphs. so next season i think ill make a couple of bucks

Pretty sure you have a juvie pastel female, so she will not be ready to breed by next season.

i got Norma that i can get a pastel out of her by the way how much do females need to weight to reproduce i know its in the f/q im to lasy to find it Norma is begging to be a big girl. she eats small-mediuem rats with a problem

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Originally Posted by zombie&lemons

i got Norma that i can get a pastel out of her by the way how much do females need to weight to reproduce i know its in the f/q im to lasy to find it Norma is begging to be a big girl. she eats small-mediuem rats with a problem

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1500 grams at the very least. Or the 3rd winter.

see to be honest i dont know know old norma really is for i know this could be her 3rd winter

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see to be honest i dont know know old norma really is for i know this could be her 3rd winter

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get a scale and weigh her. Tada.

i was suppose to get one tonight but now i have to wait till morning.

i gots a question. she is spending her days in her water bowl and then at night shes back to swingin an bangin

I have no idea what "swingin and bangin" is refering to, but if she is in her water bowl, I would get some PAM and switch your substrate to paper towels.

swingin an bangin have you heard of chopped and screwed rap music??? never heard of the dirty south the third coast Paul Wall does that ring a bell


Pam why pam shes not in there anymore since i changed out her bedding

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Originally Posted by zombie&lemons

i got Norma that i can get a pastel out of her by the way how much do females need to weight to reproduce i know its in the f/q im to lasy to find it Norma is begging to be a big girl. she eats small-mediuem rats with a problem

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Don't be "to lasy" to find stuff out please. Breeding is a big committment of your time, the snake's energy, etc. Do your work up front and know what you need to. It'll pay off in the end result of healthy hatchlings you can actually try to sell. :)

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Originally Posted by zombie&lemons

i was suppose to get one tonight but now i have to wait till morning.

i gots a question. she is spending her days in her water bowl and then at night shes back to swingin an bangin

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Translate properly please. What exactly is your snake doing?

well she was just laying her water bowl all day then when the light go off thes get activitve like normal. i changed her bedding and she hasn't been in the bowls since then

One reason a BP will spend all day in a water bowl is if they have mites. They get under water and only leave thier nostrils out to drown the mites. If your bowl is white, you will see the drowned mites in the water(tiny black specks the size a grains of salt). If that is the problem, Provent-a-mite will solve it.

As far as selling to pet stores, if you live near a store that deals in high end morphs, it is convenient(fast sale and no shipping involved), but they generally only pay about half or less of what you could sell them for yourself. They have to make a profit.

If you are wondering what a breeder size female looks like, the BP in my avatar is 2000 grams. 1500 grams looks just slightly smaller.

im not worried about it that much 100 bucks is a 100 bucks and if it comes free then dang ill make a 100 bucks. but really i wouldn't let a super go for a 100 maybe 6 for a male and 7 or 8 ffor a female that if i can get that much but will see in 2 years