any computer geeks in da house?

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I just ordered this for my new build. I am ordering the case ahead of the rest of the components to make sure all of my plans for it a physically possible (IE Heatsink height and cable length).

YAY!

SO HAPPY!

The processor is still in the air, either a Core 2 Duo Q9650 ... or Core i7 940, and both determine the ram and motherboard. We will see. I do know what GFX card I am getting (cuz no one will talk me out of it, and I have been playing with choppy frame rates for far too long to compromise video performance)

nVidia GTX 295 (EVGA)

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Intresting.

It will run hot. If you use a good liquid cooling system with it you will be fine.

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Originally Posted by Darkice

It will run hot. If you use a good liquid cooling system with it you will be fine.

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How do you figure .. the whole case is open ... with basically a house fan blowing down on everything.

wait .. were you just being a smarty pants?

Nope i red some reviews online about it. Says it runs hot because the fan is not centered right.

you could just keep it out in the open instead of in a cabinet at it would be fine

I don't know anything about the core i7's, but I have always preferred AMD processors to Intel. It just seems like the computers I've had with AMD's have preformed better for longer than those I've had with intels.

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Nope i red some reviews online about it. Says it runs hot because the fan is not centered right.

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CPU temps are not the greatest, but I am not going to use the stock cooler .. though I am limited to something that will fit under the fan. GPU temps are great in the case from what I have seen, and AI am excited about that!

I dunno, I needed something that is easy to take to LANs but will hold the serious equipment I need to be in it. This case looks awesome, and will hold all of my components. What most reviewers hate about the case are the HDD hangers that attach to the side, but that is what has me most excited.

I store a lot of stuff, and the truth is I don't need to carry my Music, and movies, and game updates, and ... everything to the LANs I go to, so when I need to go mobile, I will detach the storage drives, and cary the rest to the LAN.

It will take some time to build with this though, cable management will be hell, but I like doing that sort of thing. I think of it as a challenge, and I love prove my boss wrong when he sees how awesome my wire skillz are.

I am a nerd.

I prefer Lian Li's cases :), but that looks interesting.

Later this year I'll probably be build a new i7 Core computer.

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I don't know anything about the core i7's, but I have always preferred AMD processors to Intel. It just seems like the computers I've had with AMD's have preformed better for longer than those I've had with intels.

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AMD's are crap lately. 3 years ago they were the best, but intel is outdoing them. :/


As for the case, I think it is interesting, but Dust might get really annoying XD
As for cooling, it should cool fine, you can always get a few extra fans. Or have a normal fan blowing across it.

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AMD's are crap lately. 3 years ago they were the best, but intel is outdoing them. :/

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Really? I haven't dealt with a new computer in the past few years, but that has always been the case.

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Really? I haven't dealt with a new computer in the past few years, but that has always been the case.

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Yeah ... Intel is sticking it to AMD ... hard.

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Yeah ... Intel is sticking it to AMD ... hard.

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hmm..I guess that's good to know though...My desktop is getting kind of old and I'll probably be building one the next time so I'm glad I know thatnow.

the antec skeleton is all show. has no cooling performance otherwise. open cases can not direct heat away compared to a closed case. and the sliding action of the case is nothing special.

in my eyes for the price you paid for the case i would have bought a second antec 1200 case.

im running this

Processor: AMD Phenom x4 Quad Core 2.3ghz Idle 19oC/Load 41oC
Ram: Kingston 4gb PC2-6400 800MHz Clocks:6.0-6-6-18-25 1.8v
GFX Card: Sapphire OC HD 4870x2 2GB GDDR5 800core Mem 2362MHz OC Idle 33oC/Load 51oC
Hard Drive: :SATA II x2 360gb Seagate 7,200RPM
ROM: LightScribe DVD-RW
OS: Vista Ultimate x64
Monitor: AOC F19

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Originally Posted by flameethrower

the antec skeleton is all show. has no cooling performance otherwise. open cases can not direct heat away compared to a closed case. and the sliding action of the case is nothing special.

in my eyes for the price you paid for the case i would have bought a second antec 1200 case.

im running this

Processor: AMD Phenom x4 Quad Core 2.3ghz Idle 19oC/Load 41oC
Ram: Kingston 4gb PC2-6400 800MHz Clocks:6.0-6-6-18-25 1.8v
GFX Card: Sapphire OC HD 4870x2 2GB GDDR5 800core Mem 2362MHz OC Idle 33oC/Load 51oC
Hard Drive: :SATA II x2 360gb Seagate 7,200RPM
ROM: LightScribe DVD-RW
OS: Vista Ultimate x64
Monitor: AOC F19

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Nice build!

Yes, I know that the having a proper air flow through the case can and does cool better than just forcing air down onto the mobo. I know, but I don't care. I bought the case not for it's cooling properties (though, I am not worried about cooling at all) but for it's looks and it's covienence for taking to LAN parties. Right now I am running a Silverstone TJ-09 (black with). The TJ-09 is an AWESOME case, but lugging it to LANs is such a pain. I wanted to get away from the size of the TJ-09 but I was not willing to give up any of my wants, and this case fit every need I had (large GFX cards, full ATX, multiple HDDs with the hanging cages (which will also come in handy with LANs .. I don't need 6 HDDs at the lan, so I take the extras off and carry the essentials))

I am happy with the purchase, and my boss is jealous. In the end, that is all the really matters. :D

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Nice build!

Yes, I know that the having a proper air flow through the case can and does cool better than just forcing air down onto the mobo. I know, but I don't care. I bought the case not for it's cooling properties (though, I am not worried about cooling at all) but for it's looks and it's covienence for taking to LAN parties. Right now I am running a Silverstone TJ-09 (black with). The TJ-09 is an AWESOME case, but lugging it to LANs is such a pain. I wanted to get away from the size of the TJ-09 but I was not willing to give up any of my wants, and this case fit every need I had (large GFX cards, full ATX, multiple HDDs with the hanging cages (which will also come in handy with LANs .. I don't need 6 HDDs at the lan, so I take the extras off and carry the essentials))

I am happy with the purchase, and my boss is jealous. In the end, that is all the really matters. :D

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It is a cool looking case.
Do you plan on over-clocking your processor because that will also increase the heat generated.

I haven't built a personal PC in a couple years but I have built 7 new servers in the last 2 weeks. All IBM ( That is what my company pushes ), both Rack mount and stand alone.

PC ordered (or at least a majority of it)

Case - Antec Skeleton
MOBO - ASUS P6T (X58 chipset)
Processor - Intel Core i7 920
Ram - 6GB of Corsair DDR3
GFX - nvidia GTX 285 ( I know .. I said I wouldn't compromise, but my wallet said otherwise. I will still be very happy with a 285 ... but the 295 would be better)
HDD - 2 Seagate 640s in RAID 0
Extra Storage - 4 Seagate 320's
PSU - PC P&C 750
Optical - dual ASUS DVD Burners (SATA)

There you go .. a kick butt build, that was surprisingly cheap.

1.28TB of space in RAID0 isn't very smart, that's A LOT of information to lose if/when one of those 640's gives out.

I'm getting an iMac:D.

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1.28TB of space in RAID0 isn't very smart, that's A LOT of information to lose if/when one of those 640's gives out.

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I understand that, but I never .. NEVER keep file where my OS is installed. never. Well, at least nothing I am not willing to lose. I have extra HDD's that will be keeping that stuff, so if I corrupt my OS install, its not a big deal to just reformat and go again.

I keep images of my fresh install as well, so I should be good to go.

Trust me, I work in IT. I have seen how unstable RAID setups can be, I come prepared with first hand experience.

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I understand that, but I never .. NEVER keep file where my OS is installed. never. Well, at least nothing I am not willing to lose. I have extra HDD's that will be keeping that stuff, so if I corrupt my OS install, its not a big deal to just reformat and go again.

I keep images of my fresh install as well, so I should be good to go.

Trust me, I work in IT. I have seen how unstable RAID setups can be, I come prepared with first hand experience.

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Yes but there is still a problem with that. If you have a hardware failure!

What state the OS is in does not matter if the drive the data is on fails.
I am an IT guy to and I see it alot People put to much faith in a single piece of hardware.

If you Go with a RAID configuration atleast if a drive fails you probably can save your data.... Unless your like the Dumb guy that called us a couple weeks ago.

RAID5 3 hard drives No hot swap spare. Calls because his server crashed. Never checked it, no proactive maintnence, he even stopped checking the backups.
Got there to find that 2 of the 3 drives had failed. Well there goes the purpose of having RAID5

Logs show 1st drive failed 4 months before the 2nd one went He never noticed the Error lights on the HotSwap Drives. On top of that The backups were all over written with corrupt data!

Guess what He was screwed. The sad thing was he was the company IT guy and he actually got fired for his neglegence!

So if you really care about your data use some kind of Fault tolerace config and regular backups to a seperate device or media. Also a little proactive goes along way. I would rather provent it from happening than try to recover after it already has.

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Yes but there is still a problem with that. If you have a hardware failure!

What state the OS is in does not matter if the drive the data is on fails.
I am an IT guy to and I see it alot People put to much faith in a single piece of hardware.

If you Go with a RAID configuration atleast if a drive fails you probably can save your data.... Unless your like the Dumb guy that called us a couple weeks ago.

RAID5 3 hard drives No hot swap spare. Calls because his server crashed. Never checked it, no proactive maintnence, he even stopped checking the backups.
Got there to find that 2 of the 3 drives had failed. Well there goes the purpose of having RAID5

Logs show 1st drive failed 4 months before the 2nd one went He never noticed the Error lights on the HotSwap Drives. On top of that The backups were all over written with corrupt data!

Guess what He was screwed. The sad thing was he was the company IT guy and he actually got fired for his neglegence!

So if you really care about your data use some kind of Fault tolerace config and regular backups to a seperate device or media. Also a little proactive goes along way. I would rather provent it from happening than try to recover after it already has.

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I guess I don't understand your concern. The extra HDDs placed in tea machine for keeping important files is not enough? Maybe I should also mention that if a file really mean a lot to me, I place it on one of my other PCs as well. To be honest, most of my "Important" file are on my PC at work, and my gamers at home if just for tinkering.

And if you want to get into stories .. I have got some doozies. For example, if you work at a manufacturing company and you rely on a software package for daily operations ... do not over write the database storing all the companies information at 2pm .... and then have no explaination as to why you have no backup of the database.

OH, and you may find this humorous, I got a call from our companies HR manager (you know, the person responsible for my 401k and paychecks, health insurance and such) that her monitor was "acting funny" So, I went to check it out. Turns out that before the moniker can display anything, you need to frst turn on the PC sending it signals!

I received the case today ... and I think I am in love.

LOVE THE CASE!

and I picked out my CPU cooler, after much back and forth the the company that makes it to make sure it will work (with an adapter they are sending me).

Here it is!

Noctua NH-C12P
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It begins.

I will be installing the PSU and working on how to run the power ... stealthily later tonight. This was just me hanging the HDDs and getting so pictures of it bare so you can all see it progress.

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Added PSU and started my wiring scheming.

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I GOT A GIFT! (or .. I got a loan)

I work in an IT department at a manufacturing company. My boss and peers all are computer geeks like me, so I went to my boss and asked him if he has any advice on how to make the wiring look neat. He, also being a car nut, just happened to have some spare Auto wire loom lying around, and he brough it in for me to try.

THis is how my first try turned out .. just testing the basic ideas I have, and I think it should work well. I still have some humps to get over, but for the most part .. the tubing should help my routing a lot.

ON TO THE IMAGES

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The rest of the pictures are showing how I plan to run the wires from the lower level up the the motherboard and GPU ... and 4 storage HDDs.

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I'm going to keep updating this whether you guys like it or not!

^.^

New parts arrive!

All I am missing now is the RAM and the second HDD. Both will be here tomorrow, but until then .. I got PENTY of work to do.

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Mmmm.. Computers. I love me a nice computer. I have on built on a piece of paper. Gonna cost me a pretty penny to put it together, so i'm holding off.

I've been a computer geek for like 21 years. And i'm only 25. Ha! My dad got me started in the right direction.

I love that case. If I wasn't working on vegaproject, i'd spend more time trying to get me a computer set up.

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Mmmm.. Computers. I love me a nice computer. I have on built on a piece of paper. Gonna cost me a pretty penny to put it together, so i'm holding off.

I've been a computer geek for like 21 years. And i'm only 25. Ha! My dad got me started in the right direction.

I love that case. If I wasn't working on vegaproject, i'd spend more time trying to get me a computer set up.

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Ah yes, the Build on paper. I have many of those. Though, most of mine are done as Wish Lists in Newegg. I have always been interested in technology, but didn't really get into it until ... man, I think I was 16 when I bought and built my own PC. It was a CRAP build, but I learned a lot through it, and each build since has gotten better and better.

COMPUTER NAME SHARING (in order from oldest to newest)

CX5 (Athlon 64 3400+, nvidia 6600)
CX6 (New case, new name .. I think I upgraded the video card)
Brutus (AthlonX2 4000+, ATI X1900XT)
Sol (Athlon 3700+, SFF. Used to just surf the nets)
Ate (C2D 6400, SLi 8800GTS 320)
Trinity (Core i7, GTX 285)

It's running. I have some new pictures to post, but need some time to get them in order.

All I can say is ... AWESOME! I am happy with what I have seen so far. There is an issue with the RAM and it playing nicely with my Motherboard. I will go into length about that in my next post, but .. just had to say ..... YAY!

I used to be in love with Alien's casing....no longer!

That is the coolest case I have ever seen, good luck.

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I used to be in love with Alien's casing....no longer!

That is the coolest case I have ever seen, good luck.

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Thanks! I likez it too.

This is a long time coming.

The build is technically done, but I am having some issues. The system is stable as can be, but I hear wierd sounds. Like, the video card makes the most awful whining noises when booting games. It seems to go away after a few minutes of play time, and I see no performance issues from it. I am told that other experience this (and have since the 8800 series). I Think I notice it a lot more because I have nothing to buffer the sound. It's in the open, and in mah face.

If I start having performance issue with it, I will send it back .. but for now I am fine with it.

The other issue is my Motherboard is not liking my RAM. I can only use 4 gigs out of the 6. I have (through many troublshoots) determined that the RAM is good, and the Motherboard is good. It is a dislike between the two that is causing the issue. I amd living with it for now, but I think that new RAM will need to be ordered.

Anyway, here are the pictures. I have some more of the finished product, but I need to make sure that those a good pictures .. and not like the ones I have already.

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Which OS did you go with on this?

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Which OS did you go with on this?

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64bit Vista (bleh). I can not WAIT for Windows 7

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I understand that, but I never .. NEVER keep file where my OS is installed. never. Well, at least nothing I am not willing to lose. I have extra HDD's that will be keeping that stuff, so if I corrupt my OS install, its not a big deal to just reformat and go again.

I keep images of my fresh install as well, so I should be good to go.

Trust me, I work in IT. I have seen how unstable RAID setups can be, I come prepared with first hand experience.

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If an entire drive fails, it wont matter where you keep something, save for an external device.