My New Emerald Tree Boa (DUW)

After years of research, lusting, and questioning if I was ready, I finally caved in and purchased my first Emerald Tree Boa! It was too good of a deal to pass up, and she was far to lovely for me to utilize my short supply of self control.

I purchased her from Ryan Burke at Clockwork Reptile Company. I couldn't be happier with her. Ryan did an awesome job of answering all of my questions and packaging her! She is a Beautiful little Captive Born, Female (around a year or so old, I think).

Anyway, here she is!

Here she is as a neonate! Photo belongs to Ryan Burke.
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Shortly before coming to me, she still has orange hues. Photo belongs to Ryan Burke.
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Finally, my photoshoot with her!
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Thank you so much for looking!

Great photos! Lovely Boa

Absolutely amazing Crissy. I didnt know that they were reds as babies like chondros.

How does his temperament seem to you in your short life together?

What a pretty girl!:gj:

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Originally Posted by llovelace

Great photos! Lovely Boa

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Thank you! :D

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Absolutely amazing Crissy. I didnt know that they were reds as babies like chondros.

How does his temperament seem to you in your short life together?

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They come in quite a few shades, from deep red to orange (and every shade between). If I'm not mistaken, there are also a few localities born green.

Her temperament is actually amazing! I was expecting for her to be a little demon, but she's actually rather docile and quite tolerant to my presence. I'm just slow and gentle and she seems to do reciprocate.

Admittedly, when I first removed her from the delicup (as I was unpacking her) it could have been exciting. She gave me this little sniff, opened her mouth (I saw her teeth..and ouch), I cringed expecting the worst, and she simply shut her mouth (Thank goodness!). I'm guessing it would have been a touch painful, even at her meager size. :D

Anyway, Thank you for the wonderful comment! :)

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Originally Posted by V1L3 DiaL3cT

What a pretty girl!:gj:

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Thanks so much! I think I'm in love! :D

great girl you got there!! these have been a favorite of mine for a while!

I love ETB's....ETB>GTP anyday.

Congrats.

Stellar pictures, hon. What a gorgeous girl you've got there. -Smiles.-

Wow, congrats Crissy on the killer boa! :gj:

Ryan is a cool guy! I dont have anything from him but im sure the transaction was flawless:gj:. Anyway what a beauty! Great photo's too!

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Originally Posted by Lucas339

great girl you got there!! these have been a favorite of mine for a while!

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Mine too! I've been wanting one since I realized they were available in the pet trade. Thank you!

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Originally Posted by ThyTempest

I love ETB's....ETB>GTP anyday.

Congrats.

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I agree! Although, I do plan on adding a few Chondros to my collection as well. Thanks for the comment!

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Originally Posted by Melicious

Stellar pictures, hon. What a gorgeous girl you've got there. -Smiles.-

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Thank you so much! :D

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Wow, congrats Crissy on the killer boa! :gj:

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Thank you, Connie! She's more than I ever could have expected. She only served to increase my love for arboreals!

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Originally Posted by juddb

Ryan is a cool guy! I dont have anything from him but im sure the transaction was flawless:gj:. Anyway what a beauty! Great photo's too!

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Agreed, Ryan is a top notch guy! I'm going to be picking up a male Emerald Tree Boa from him in the near future.

Thank you so much for your comment! :D

Beautiful snake! best of luck with him:gj:

gorgeous pics!

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Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons

gorgeous pics!

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Thank you! :D

:bow: WOW!!! Stunning! :gj:

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Originally Posted by STORMS

:bow: WOW!!! Stunning! :gj:

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That's what I was thinking as I was unpacking her. They are unbelievable in person.

Thank you!:D

that 4th photo is amazing. She looks so sinister and sexy. congrats.

Gorgeous girl! Is she a northern basin mix? Little bit of a short head for a full norther from my very little experience with them. More details! and pics.

Awesome Pictures!

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Originally Posted by DavidG

Gorgeous girl! Is she a northern basin mix? Little bit of a short head for a full norther from my very little experience with them. More details! and pics.

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I'm honestly not sure if she's a Northern Basin mix or not. He didn't breeder her, so I doubt he knows.

I thought she might have had some Basin influence as well, but I wasn't sure. Either way, I'm in love with her. :D

Thank you so much for your lovely comment! :D

congrats on your new pick ups, gorgeous is all I have to say.:gj:

Quite an incredible snake you now have! Congrats!

Wow she is beautiful :)

Great photography.

GTPs and ETBs are awesome. I can't decide which is better though..
Anyway, great looking Emerald.

She's beautiful! Congrats! :D

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Originally Posted by TheMolenater2

GTPs and ETBs are awesome. I can't decide which is better though..
Anyway, great looking Emerald.

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:gj:GTP's!!! Kidding....

awesome snake! their pits are SO SICK! i cant wait to get one for my living room. except im thinkin a want a sorong GTP

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Originally Posted by juddb

:gj:GTP's!!! Kidding....

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Hehe, I plan on getting both! But..sorry, ETBs own GTPs..:D

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Originally Posted by Michelle.C

Hehe, I plan on getting both! But..sorry, ETBs own GTPs..:D

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:O, no she di int.:colbert:

Wow! She's gorgeous! I love her tounge in the one pic.

I never knew how much ETBs looked like GTPs. I haven't researched many other snakes besides BPs so I don't really know anything about any of the boas. But when I started seeing pics of GTPs I fell in love... How do ETPs compare to GTPs for care requirments, tempermant and price? I'm not in love with the fact that you're not supposed to handle GTPs until they're a year old.

I don't mean to hijack the thread by any means, just a quick question, hopefully get an answer in 1 or 2 posts and we can go back to fawning over this beauty.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by dizzy

Wow! She's gorgeous! I love her tounge in the one pic.

I never knew how much ETBs looked like GTPs. I haven't researched many other snakes besides BPs so I don't really know anything about any of the boas. But when I started seeing pics of GTPs I fell in love... How do ETPs compare to GTPs for care requirments, tempermant and price? I'm not in love with the fact that you're not supposed to handle GTPs until they're a year old.

I don't mean to hijack the thread by any means, just a quick question, hopefully get an answer in 1 or 2 posts and we can go back to fawning over this beauty.

Thanks

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No worries, I enjoy answering questions about them!

I like to think of it as being Green Tree Pythons looking like Emerald Tree Boas. :D

Seriously though, they are both arboreal boids, but they have several differences, as well as similarities.

Starting at birth, and before hand. Green Tree Pythons are oviparous (egg layers), while Emerald Tree Boas are ovoviviparous (live birth). Emerald Tree Boas are also larger and less fragile at birth.

You should not handle Green Tree Pythons because possible damage to the spine. Vs. Emerald Tree Boas who can be gently handled. As long as you have a removable perch, and don't try to unwrap them, you can technically "handle" both. :D

Both go through an ontogenetic color change. Green Tree Pythons don't start their color change for a year, possibly more. Their change happens quite suddenly. Vs. Emerald Tree Boa who start changing colors at 3 months (sometimes earlier) and it can take some of them nearly a year to complete their change.

There are cosmetic differences as well. Green Tree Pythons have a short, stocky head, large bumps above their nostrils and a more pronounced spine, along with other things (such as color).

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=83851 Green Tree Python

Temperament is debatable. Some say Emeralds are calmer, others say Green Tree Pythons are. I believe both species, depending on the individual animal, can be calmed enough to manage them.

Price, they are quite similar in. Locality of the animal plays a large part in price. A Northern Emerald will run you around $400, and most localities of Green Tree Python will run you similar ($300-$400).

As far as care, I'd say Green Tree Pythons can be a little more difficult, especially as neonates. Once they are adults, both become quite a bit easier to keep. :)

http://www.sprucenubblefarm.com/chon...ncaresheet.php Green Tree Python Care Sheet

http://www.emeraldtreeboa.org/daemons/etbcare.htm Emerald Tree Boa Care Sheet

Very nice write up!

Only part I'd like to contend with is the color change. Aaron F. (Iherp creator) had a 16 gram (I believe) neonate start it's change. Early change is becoming more common. I've got a 34G neo with green on it's nose. The Biak local of green trees can take up to 2 years from birth to complete it's color change.

The labial pits and head shape of the emerald really give it away and make them the most different for someone not sure of what they are comparing. The scales on a chondro are much smaller than a emerald too (IMO)

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Originally Posted by Michelle.C

I like to think of it as being Green Tree Pythons looking like Emerald Tree Boas. :D

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Oh SNAP! She's been talkin smack on the chondro scene:mad:. No, nice post Crissy! Like David said from time to time chondro's start the color change early, but its not common. Again, excellent post girl:gj: Its time for a emerald/chondro cage fight:sabduel:

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Originally Posted by DavidG

Very nice write up!

Only part I'd like to contend with is the color change. Aaron F. (Iherp creator) had a 16 gram (I believe) neonate start it's change. Early change is becoming more common. I've got a 34G neo with green on it's nose. The Biak local of green trees can take up to 2 years from birth to complete it's color change.

The labial pits and head shape of the emerald really give it away and make them the most different for someone not sure of what they are comparing. The scales on a chondro are much smaller than a emerald too (IMO)

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I had no idea they could start changing colors so soon. I guess it wasn't very common, so I never ran across where it was stated. Thanks so much for the information.

I agree about the Supralabial pits, they are a dead giveaway!

When I first started really looking at arboreal boids, I always got confused telling the difference between ETBs/GTPs. Then I saw a photo of an ETBs head, straight down. I never had a problem again.

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Originally Posted by juddb

Oh SNAP! She's been talkin smack on the chondro scene:mad:. No, nice post Crissy! Like David said from time to time chondro's start the color change early, but its not common. Again, excellent post girl:gj: Its time for a emerald/chondro cage fight:sabduel:

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Thanks! :D

Hehe, I wouldn't want to have to fight you over which one owns. It would destroy your spirit. :(:O:P

unbelievable.

Nice lookin' ETB ya got there, Crissy ;)

This post is quite active still! I'm actually pretty glad. It's full of information and not much conflict (even though the chondro rules an ETB <had to do it). :)

Sweet Boa!!! Ive always wanted one!!

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Originally Posted by DavidG

This post is quite active still! I'm actually pretty glad. It's full of information and not much conflict (even though the chondro rules an ETB <had to do it). :)

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Oh noes! That was completely unnecessary..and It might have actually hurt if it were true. :giggle:

It's a pity you guys have to keep reassuring yourselves. Don't worry though, if you keep saying it enough times, you'll actually believe it! :D