What would happen if...

I have a question that has been bothering me for a week now, What would happen if lets say a cinnamon mojave had to bred to a another cinnamon mojave?

Would there be a combo of the 2 super forms

Cinnamon Mojave x Cinnamon Mojave =
(25%) Cinnamon
(25%) Mojave
(50%) Cinnamon Mojave

That's a really good question and I've actually thought about it a time or two lol. I'd love to know the answer, because, no offense DBD, but I don't think that would be accurate. I could be wrong, but at the moment I wouldn't agree with your assessment. :) I would think it would be somewhere along the lines of 25% cinny, 25% mojo, 25% cinny-mojo, 25% ?!?!?

You could end up with any of the following:

normal
mojo
cinny
mojo-cinny
mojo-super cinny
leucy-cinny
leucy-super cinny

I would work out percentages, but it's WAY too early in the morning for that. Suffice it to say that the chances of ending up with either a normal or a leucy-super-cinny are equally slim.

EDIT: oops...left out super cinny and leucy ....I knew it was too early in the morning to try and type that out! LOL

Normal =6.25%
Cinny = 12.5%
Mojave = 12.5%
Mojave Cinny = 25%
Super Cinny Mojave = 12.5%
Super Mojave Cinny = 12.5 %
Super Cinny = 6.25%
Super Mojave = 6.25%
Super Mojave Super Cinny = 6.25%

That should be right, I think.:gj:

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Originally Posted by Lateralus_Love

That's a really good question and I've actually thought about it a time or two lol. I'd love to know the answer, because, no offense DBD, but I don't think that would be accurate. I could be wrong, but at the moment I wouldn't agree with your assessment. :) I would think it would be somewhere along the lines of 25% cinny, 25% mojo, 25% cinny-mojo, 25% ?!?!?

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According to the punnet square thats the outcome...

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Originally Posted by DBD

According to the punnet square thats the outcome...

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Only if you set the punnet square up incorrectly. ;)

What's the punnet square o.O

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Originally Posted by TMoore

Normal =6.25%
Cinny = 12.5%
Mojave = 12.5%
Mojave Cinny = 25%
Super Cinny Mojave = 12.5%
Super Mojave Cinny = 12.5 %
Super Cinny = 6.25%
Super Mojave = 6.25%
Super Mojave Super Cinny = 6.25%

That should be right, I think.:gj:

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Yup, looks right to me :)

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Originally Posted by DBD

According to the punnet square thats the outcome...

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In this case you would use a 16 box punnet square not a 4.

The punnet would look something like this
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...owxdh_snow.asp
except for being double het for snow you could look at it as het for leucy and het for super cinny. I hope that makes sense. I couldn't find any punnets with two co-dom traits.

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Originally Posted by TMoore

In this case you would use a 16 box punnet square not a 4.

The punnet would look something like this
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...owxdh_snow.asp
except for being double het for snow you could look at it as het for leucy and het for super cinny. I hope that makes sense. I couldn't find any punnets with two co-dom traits.

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That is correct 16 boxes when working with double morph.
4 across and 4 down.
For each morph you add to the mix you have to multiply the number of combinations each parent can pass on by 2

TMoore is correct. As for the appearance of the Leucy Super Cinny, it has not been done yet, and one can only reason about what it will look like. In my mind it would be an all white snake. The reason I deduce that is because if Leucism is actually what goes on in a Ball Python, then it works like this. Leucism is caused by the Chromatophores (cells in the skin that hold pigment) being inoperable. Meaning that a Super Mojave actually as pigment, but the skin does not hold the color (yet, the eyes do, making them blue). There for, the super cinny pigment would still be present in the Ssper Cinny Leucy, but the leaucy would pass on the inoperable chromatophores to the animal, and the skin still would not hold the pigment. Just my thoughts, and I can only hope that I am wrong, as we already know how to make white snakes, and I would love to start seeing some other solid colored snakes, but in something other than white, black and grey.