Stonewashed pastel questions..

Hey ,

I have been offered a stonewashed pastel adult male , i dont have a pic of him yet and the breeder i would be getting him off is waiting from a shipment from the usa *Im in the uk* . I have never herd of a stonewashed pastel and was wondering if anyone has any pic's and general info on them ?

Also in american dollers its about $415 for adult male . Good price?

Thanks

BB

Anyone? :)

BB

As I understand it, it is just a color variation in the Pastels.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

As I understand it, it is just a color variation in the Pastels.

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Genetic... or just random/selective breeding?

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

Genetic... or just random/selective breeding?

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Selective, I believe.

Thanks for the reply's .

So would it work like any other pastel , if i bred it to a normal i should get 50% stonewashed pastels and 50% normals?

Thanks

Bb

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Originally Posted by Big.Balls

Thanks for the reply's .

So would it work like any other pastel , if i bred it to a normal i should get 50% stonewashed pastels and 50% normals?

Thanks

Bb

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Yep!

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Yep!

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Thanks :gj:

$415 .. that a good price for a adult male? Should i expect good quality for that price or not?

Thanks

BB

What about Casey Lazik's stonewashed super pastel? I don't know if there's some sort of hidden gene in play or what, but it definitely doesn't look like your typical super pastel. Images 11 and 12 at http://reptilia.com/index.php?option...=42&Itemid=30#

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Originally Posted by Big.Balls

Thanks for the reply's .

So would it work like any other pastel , if i bred it to a normal i should get 50% stonewashed pastels and 50% normals

Bb

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no. i was just reading on another site and a guy said he has a stonewashed pastel he had since 2003 and he has not produced any stonewashed babies yet. all pastels produced are normal pastels.
he said the original stonewashed pastel was a grazaini line pastel.
i have never seen one in person but they look good in pics.
so if you like it buy it. and good luck with producing more.

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Originally Posted by m00kfu

What about Casey Lazik's stonewashed super pastel? I don't know if there's some sort of hidden gene in play or what, but it definitely doesn't look like your typical super pastel. Images 11 and 12 at http://reptilia.com/index.php?option...=42&Itemid=30#

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I like the stonewashed super , thanks for that link .

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Originally Posted by nova2door

no. i was just reading on another site and a guy said he has a stonewashed pastel he had since 2003 and he has not produced any stonewashed babies yet. all pastels produced are normal pastels.
he said the original stonewashed pastel was a grazaini line pastel.
i have never seen one in person but they look good in pics.
so if you like it buy it. and good luck with producing more.

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Hmm thats interesting to no , so if i understand correctly .. there could be a chance i would just grazaini line pastels not stonewashed .

Does anyone have any pics of stonewashed pastels? i have only managed to see a few pics , would love to see more and also can anyone give some opinions on the price im being offered .. its about $415 .

Thanks

BB

Hi,

End of the day it depends entirely on what yourself and the seller feel is a fair price.

A picture of the animal would help us decide what we think of the price on a personal level - if it looks like a low grade graziani then the price is steep but if it looks like a high grade graz pastel with an unusual twist through the stonewash then I would say the price could be spot on or even cheap.

Without seeing the animal I don't know what to tell you. :confuzd:


dr del

Have you asked the breeder if this line is genetic? As in can he guarantee that it is reproducable.

That would seal or kill the deal for me.

If it is just a phenotype (the look) and not the genotype (genetics) then it is up to you if you want to pay that for a snake simply because you like the look of it.

Bruce

Stan Ruppel started the stonewashed pastel line he then changed the name to ruppel line pastels.
but the male he used that produced the stonwashed pastels was a grazaini line pastel.
if you like the snake and think its a good price then buy it, if not wait and find one you like for a good price.

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

End of the day it depends entirely on what yourself and the seller feel is a fair price.

A picture of the animal would help us decide what we think of the price on a personal level - if it looks like a low grade graziani then the price is steep but if it looks like a high grade graz pastel with an unusual twist through the stonewash then I would say the price could be spot on or even cheap.

Without seeing the animal I don't know what to tell you. :confuzd:


dr del

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Thanks for the reply , i cant get a pic until the shipment is in as the breeder dont have a pic himself . As soon as im able to get a pic i shal post it :gj:

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

Have you asked the breeder if this line is genetic? As in can he guarantee that it is reproducable.

That would seal or kill the deal for me.

If it is just a phenotype (the look) and not the genotype (genetics) then it is up to you if you want to pay that for a snake simply because you like the look of it.

Bruce

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Thanks for the reply ,

I have sent a email asking him if its genetic and im looking forward to finding out . :)

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Originally Posted by nova2door

Stan Ruppel started the stonewashed pastel line he then changed the name to ruppel line pastels.
but the male he used that produced the stonwashed pastels was a grazaini line pastel.
if you like the snake and think its a good price then buy it, if not wait and find one you like for a good price.

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Thanks for the reply

BB