The Coart Jester!

Has anyone else seen this!

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1647679,1647679

Thats one heck of a ball:salute:

Man... that doesn't even look like a Ball! :O

wow... uhm.. wow. I'm at a loss for words here. spectacular. amazing. weird. wonder what mix of genetics that is? now I gotta look up the jester ball. I miss so much!!!!

afterall the morphs that have been created it's incredible to know there's still things like this left out there.

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Originally Posted by pillowtalk6188

afterall the morphs that have been created it's incredible to know there's still things like this left out there.

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amazing but ugly.

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Originally Posted by fattielumpkin

amazing but ugly.

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not exactly what i was trying to say. it's amazing that there's still so many morphs out there after all the time people have put into breeding them. and these guys did it all on there own with no help from "the man" lol. i think he's gorgeous.

I have never seen this snake before and have no info regarding the "Jester" but it looks to me like this snake is a paradox caramel?
I could be wrong, but that is my take on it.
Wish I could see the other eye.
-Steven

anyone has a link to the jester? ive been trying to search for that one.:)

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Originally Posted by jopay

anyone has a link to the jester? ive been trying to search for that one.:)

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ditto.. I can't find any info either. LINK PLEASE!!!!! :bow:

not that im expecting it but seeing this was imported from africa that makes me even more excited to see what my girls got up in her eggs tho 99.9 percent of the time its all normals...still...

dont hate appreciate

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Originally Posted by Ladydragon

ditto.. I can't find any info either. LINK PLEASE!!!!! :bow:

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Here is the link for the Jester Ball. Check out Jon’s collection pages to be blown away by some incredible animals.

http://www.albinosunlimited.com/JesterBall.html

they look like someone took a pic with a funny setting on there camera

they are kinda cool. def. different

I wonder what genetics created that monster:confused:. He looks massive.

Whoa! I can't believe that came from Africa...Pretty crazy looking.

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Originally Posted by TheMolenater2

Whoa! I can't believe that came from Africa...Pretty crazy looking.

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probably from a farm!

Thats crazy looking. I am assuming its hasnt been proven genetic yet?

that is a very busy pattern bp ! i hope 2 see it at a show ! cuz it just unbelieveable !

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Originally Posted by Albey

Here is the link for the Jester Ball. Check out Jon’s collection pages to be blown away by some incredible animals.

http://www.albinosunlimited.com/JesterBall.html

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yet you say this!

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Originally Posted by Albey

What does the reason they are not imported have to do with anything? The fact that they are not imported yet there are more than enough to satisfy the demand says it all. With the tremendous amount of Ball Pythons already in this country there is no reason to continue to import more than a few hundred or so a year, if that. Oh by the way, every Leopard Gecko I have ever bought was purchased directly form the breeder that produced it.



I wont buy them, I do make loud noises and snub those that do, and I personally do not do business with anyone that deals in imports.

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then you come to this thread and support this guy

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Originally Posted by nixer

yet you say this!



then you come to this thread and support this guy

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Originally Posted by Albey

With the tremendous amount of Ball Pythons already in this country there is no reason to continue to import more than a few hundred or so a year, if that.

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That should leave another 199 to go.

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Originally Posted by nixer

yet you say this!



then you come to this thread and support this guy

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and then there's this. http://www.albeysreptiles.com/desert07_1.htm

which proves to me that some of you (NOT ALL) that say you won't buy imports are taking what you think is the politically correct position on a forum. But it's not really what you think. What's the difference in one or a few hundred or a few thousand?

jeez....

This is just what the original whitesmoke that nerd imported looked like. Whitesmoke is kevins original male that produced the "Coral Glow"...name change. I know some people think Coral glow and bannanas are the same and others feel they are related but not the same. I guess it will have to be proved with breeding.
Apparently this Male is already breeding. Should be interesting to find out what it produces, as that is the only way to know for sure.

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Originally Posted by pillowtalk6188

not exactly what i was trying to say. it's amazing that there's still so many morphs out there after all the time people have put into breeding them. and these guys did it all on there own with no help from "the man" lol. i think he's gorgeous.

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Yep, I agree. That is an amazing animal and it was produced in the wild. I was just thinking about when we would see the next really crazy new animal out of Africa. I think that one fits the bill!
Who knows what else is sitting in a hole somewhere out in Africa yet to be discovered.

The other thing I noticed about this snake. He is in amazing condition for a WC Import! Those are some very detail pictures and I really don't see anything wrong with that animal at all! Now Scars, No roughed up scales, no nothing, and he looks really healthy and fat...I mean from those pics you could tell me that animal was CBB and I probably wouldn't question it other that what were the genetics to create it.

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Originally Posted by jopay

anyone has a link to the jester? ive been trying to search for that one.:)

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http://www.albinosunlimited.com/JesterBall.html

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Originally Posted by grammie

and then there's this. http://www.albeysreptiles.com/desert07_1.htm

which proves to me that some of you (NOT ALL) that say you won't buy imports are taking what you think is the politically correct position on a forum. But it's not really what you think. What's the difference in one or a few hundred or a few thousand?

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Are you kidding me? I bought a third generation Captive Bred Ball Python. By the way I never said I was totally against importation. It would be nice if there were some limits on it so that the price of CB Normals could be higher in the market place but I know it will never happen. I belong to two organizations PIJAC and USARK that would fight it tooth and nail if they even tried to limit it.

no, you just said

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I wont buy them, I do make loud noises and snub those that do, and I personally do not do business with anyone that deals in imports.

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Because you got it third generation, you think you didn't deal with anyone that deals in imports? I don't get that. Anyway, I think the Court Jester is gorgeous. I'm out.

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Originally Posted by nixer

yet you say this!



then you come to this thread and support this guy

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Grow up dudes. You want to start a pissing contest, take it to a new thread.

As to the CJ, it's interesting, but nothing I'd put on my wish list. Just too muddy for my aesthetic tastes.


~Kat

thats freaking awesome

Are you guys who are quoting Albey quoting her from the thread about the person who bought a female gravid? If so, then you shouldnt just copy and paste the parts that fit to your argument.
And also, if those quotes are from that thread. Isnt it ilegal for them to ship out gravids from Africa?
I personaly think its totaly different to importing butt loads of gravid females out of the wild to here. Where chances are they will die after laying there eggs.

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Originally Posted by nixer

yet you say this!



then you come to this thread and support this guy

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You're pasting quotes that are useless to your argument and trying to put words in Albey's mouth. This is a completely different subject, and your rudeness to intentionally pick a fight has shown me a new light on your respectfulness.
Go be immature somewhere else.

I'm not too much of a fan of that ball. It's very interesting, but a bit too odd for me.. unnatural I suppose. Reminds me of gravy granite coloration.

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Originally Posted by grammie

and then there's this. http://www.albeysreptiles.com/desert07_1.htm

which proves to me that some of you (NOT ALL) that say you won't buy imports are taking what you think is the politically correct position on a forum. But it's not really what you think. What's the difference in one or a few hundred or a few thousand?

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Originally Posted by grammie

no, you just said



Because you got it third generation, you think you didn't deal with anyone that deals in imports? I don't get that. Anyway, I think the Court Jester is gorgeous. I'm out.

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If you want to tear my posts and me apart because I think selling Gravid Females and (burnt ones at that) is absolutely disgusting that is fine. Do it in the original thread I posted in not here where I am giving praise to an incredible animal that someone just obtained.

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Originally Posted by Albey

Here is the link for the Jester Ball. Check out Jon’s collection pages to be blown away by some incredible animals.

http://www.albinosunlimited.com/JesterBall.html

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If they're both wild caught animals, how do we know that one is a more extreme version of the other? They could be completely separate mutations.....

*Going back to the topic*
It looks pretty cool! It kinda looks like a paradox carmel albino.

The Jester's look really cool I can't wait for Jon to prove them out! Good luck.

Brock

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Originally Posted by grammie

and then there's this. http://www.albeysreptiles.com/desert07_1.htm

which proves to me that some of you (NOT ALL) that say you won't buy imports are taking what you think is the politically correct position on a forum. But it's not really what you think. What's the difference in one or a few hundred or a few thousand?

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Originally Posted by nixer

yet you say this!



then you come to this thread and support this guy

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I think you all need to do some homework before accusing someone of something you have no idea about.

I said I was out because it was so off topic, but have to stop in to say
1. Abbey, I never meant to seem like I was tearing you apart.
2. I will do more homework.
3. now I'm out of discussion, thanks

You know... After looking at this morph a bit more closely, my opinion is that it really doesn't look all that much like the jester ball. But it DOES have a lot of the same characteristics of the original White smoke.... Either way it's a pretty exciting project. So, unless someone can convince me otherwise, I think he will be producing coral glows/banana balls with this import. Time will tell.

Wow that thing is pretty ridiculous..but I can't honestly say that i like it lol.