heating/lighting?...so confused!

Really confused about the heating and lighting setup that a ball python needs. I have a UTH but what temp should it be set at? Should I get a ceramic heater for the hot side too or does that make it too hot and dry? what wattage? I have heard that they dont need lighting but should I have it anyways, if so what kind/watt?
thanks!

I have a UTH and a T-Stat set at 78 with a humidifying set up so its about 50%. Bulbs take away humidity so I stay away from them, a good UTH and T-Stat and good bubbler is all you need.

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Originally Posted by Anakiyas dad

I have a UTH and a T-Stat set at 78 with a humidifying set up so its about 50%. Bulbs take away humidity so I stay away from them, a good UTH and T-Stat and good bubbler is all you need.

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Thanks for the advice, ill definitely get a T-stat but...
what is a bubbler? sorry...im really new at this!

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Originally Posted by Anakiyas dad

I have a UTH and a T-Stat set at 78 with a humidifying set up so its about 50%. Bulbs take away humidity so I stay away from them, a good UTH and T-Stat and good bubbler is all you need.

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78 degrees is a quite a bit low for a BP.

Here's something that should help... BP Caresheet

Well thats your OP she is VET checked and healthy as a Horse eats regular and sheds all in one peice.

TEMPERATURE
~80F (ambient temps)
~90F (basking temps)
75 or below is unhealthy

She does not like 80 or higher I would know this because I have tinkered with the temps to find where "she" likes it. And what is 2 degrees from 80 anyway. See sig line.

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Originally Posted by Anakiyas dad

Well thats your OP / See sig line.

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Well, that's YOUR experience. So you have the one vet checked, feeding, sheding, and healthy as a horse BP who hangs out with the temp too low. Congrats. For the rest of the BP world, standard advice is standard for a reason.

Read your own sig line.

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Originally Posted by Anakiyas dad

See sig line.

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Keep in mind this is someone who is new to BP husbandry and probably is unsure on how to "read" their BP. In your original post you also did not mention whether you were referring to ambient temp, hot spot or cool side. Next time maybe if you clarified a bit more for someone new to the hobby it would help.

So you say all BP's are the same then? That they all like constant 80 amb temps and 90 bask temps. And again 2 degrees from 80 is too low! Sorry but 16 years of collecting and no premature deaths and zero illnesses tells me;

A) My methods seem to be working just fine.
B) You two have too much time on your hands to Internet-Argue.
C) The OP was asking a question/opinions and that was mine.
D) Sounds like someone has not done their homework.
E) Next time someone posts about their set-up and pet bear in mind they might just know a bit more what works best for their pet.

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Originally Posted by Anakiyas dad

So you say all BP's are the same then? That they all like constant 80 amb temps and 90 bask temps. And again 2 degrees from 80 is too low! Sorry but 16 years of collecting and no premature deaths and zero illnesses tells me;

A) My methods seem to be working just fine.
B) You two have too much time on your hands to Internet-Argue.
C) The OP was asking a question/opinions and that was mine.
D) Sounds like someone has not done their homework.
E) Next time someone posts about their set-up and pet bear in mind they might just know a bit more what works best for their pet.

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All lenastorms was saying is that your conditions might not be the best for most BPs. Since this person is obviously a newbie to BPs, I have to agree that your method is slightly out of the ordinary and that the "regular" conditions might work best for her. I think it's great that you look at what your BP likes, and that you adjust its environment accordingly, but 78 is probably a little on the low side for "average" (if you will, since no two BPs are the same) Ball Pythons.

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Originally Posted by Anakiyas dad

So you say all BP's are the same then? That they all like constant 80 amb temps and 90 bask temps. And again 2 degrees from 80 is too low! Sorry but 16 years of collecting and no premature deaths and zero illnesses tells me;

A) My methods seem to be working just fine.
B) You two have too much time on your hands to Internet-Argue.
C) The OP was asking a question/opinions and that was mine.
D) Sounds like someone has not done their homework.
E) Next time someone posts about their set-up and pet bear in mind they might just know a bit more what works best for their pet.

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I never said all BPs are the same...I said standard advice is standard for a reason. If your milage varies, yippy skippy for you. You gave your opinion then jumped on Lena for hers, then quickly refered her to your sig line...pot meet kettle.

I'm glad your methods work for you...that DOES NOT make them standard advice, and if this persons BP comes up with an RI, you have nothing invested but your opinion. Again, standard care is standard for a reason.

Well, I haven't been collecting for 16 years, but if you let that fool you into thinking I haven't done my homework, that is a mistake. BTW, how would I know that your advice was non-standard if I haven't done my homework? Shoots the logic train right off the track.

Granted, you do know what works for YOUR pet....darned if the OP wasn't asking about HIS, not YOURS.

Mods, sorry for the hijack and detour....I will take my punishment like a man.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread!

Since none of our opinions matters according to you two whats the point in trying to answer anyones post if we have to put up with your "your temps are too cold" "be more specific" "YOUR WRONG WRONG WRONG"

you two are mainly the reason some have not posted or tried to help anyone because of your E-Thuggery.

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Originally Posted by Anakiyas dad

So you say all BP's are the same then? That they all like constant 80 amb temps and 90 bask temps. And again 2 degrees from 80 is too low! Sorry but 16 years of collecting and no premature deaths and zero illnesses tells me;

A) My methods seem to be working just fine.
B) You two have too much time on your hands to Internet-Argue.
C) The OP was asking a question/opinions and that was mine.
D) Sounds like someone has not done their homework.
E) Next time someone posts about their set-up and pet bear in mind they might just know a bit more what works best for their pet.

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Wow! Are you kidding me???

No, not all BP's are the same. I never said they were. Once again as I stated before, you were not clear in your original post as to which temp you were referring to. For a person new to snakes that can be quite confusing. All you needed to do was clarify, not have a tantrum.

And who is "internet-arguing??? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black :colbert:

You are 100% right - that was YOUR opinion. Just as it was mine to say 78 degrees is to low.

Maybe you should have had someone help you with your homework, obviously you need a refresher coarse in how not to be a hypocrite. Maybe look into getting a tutor to get that resolved. :rolleyes:

I second the 8ball idea :D

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All lenastorms was saying is that your conditions might not be the best for most BPs. Since this person is obviously a newbie to BPs, I have to agree that your method is slightly out of the ordinary and that the "regular" conditions might work best for her. I think it's great that you look at what your BP likes, and that you adjust its environment accordingly, but 78 is probably a little on the low side for "average" (if you will, since no two BPs are the same) Ball Pythons.

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Thank you I merely just posted what my BP likes and was my opinion. And since the others are such exerts they tell you that you are wrong.

This is the reason I have not posted or been here since I joined.

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you two are mainly the reason some have not posted or tried to help anyone because of your E-Thuggery.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Do a thread check brother...Lena and I are both pretty quick to jump in and help out with noob questions.

E-Thuggery...Now that just made my night:D

Here's one. I'm rubber and you are glue......:rofl:

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you two are mainly the reason some have not posted or tried to help anyone because of your E-Thuggery.

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Oh my goodness...I think he is serious!:weirdface

Hey come on guys I have to agree with Anakiyas that lots of these stupid argument happen.

I started liking this forum b/c everyone was so friendly, but then I got more in it and more people started giving me crap.

Let's just stick to this:

Anakiyas, great your BP is healthy, thanks for giving advice, but maybe you should've mentioned that it is not "normal" for a BP to like it that cold.

Lena and Slim, just because Anakiyas said something you guys didn't agree with or liked, doesn't mean you should keep going on about it.

Let's keep it cool, peeps. :please:

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

Let's keep it cool, peeps. :please:

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I'm down Dutch. I'm recalling the bombers as we speak:P

umm yeah so to get away from the argueing. i would say

90-94 on the hot side
78-80ish ambiant temp
80-84 on the cool

JUST MY OPINION i'm a noob too

p.s. i agree with lena and slim

I am amazed to see people arguing over 2 degrees. I could understand if the advice provided was dangerous and could possibly harm the animal however I am not getting this.

While I tend to recommend higher temps especially to new owners (which does not mean that I provide those temps to my animals), I can tell you this, 78 degrees will in no way harm the animal in question,

So time for everyone to relax and stop the bickering over 2 degrees.

I still don't understand what the sig has to do with anything really. I didn't read any complaining here.. just opinions.

In my opinion, the OP should read a caresheet.

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In my opinion, the OP should read a caresheet.

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In my opinion this may be the smartest statement so far....

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Originally Posted by Anakiyas dad

good bubbler is all you need.

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I am still pretty new what is a bubbler.

P.S. Lena and Slim are usually spot on.... Just sayin...

Hi,

I suspect this may be the mythical bubbler. :D


dr del

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Do a thread check brother...Lena and I are both pretty quick to jump in and help out with noob questions.

E-Thuggery...Now that just made my night:D

Here's one. I'm rubber and you are glue......:rofl:

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"Thug-Life" from the words of Tupac RIP... :)