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  • 01-10-2009, 11:43 PM
    hoax
    New Puppy...
    I just got home from the kennel.

    I got a German Shepherd. I have not had one since I was a child. These are by far my most favorite breed.

    His mother is a gorgous black and tan, his father is a black and tan who was imported from Denmark.

    The mother has won first place at several dog shows. The father was in the Danish Air Force.

    He is going to be a massive pup. His paws are already the size of my knee. His father weighs around 175Lbs. The mother is around 125Lbs.

    I was not going to buy a dog today but I saw this dog and I immediately fell in love.

    Pics will be posted tomorrow. It is dark here and I would like to get some good pictures in the sunlight to show of his real colors.
  • 01-11-2009, 03:00 AM
    SecurityStacey
    Re: New Puppy...
    Must... have... puppy pictures!

    And paws - make sure you get pictures of puppy paws!
  • 01-11-2009, 03:17 AM
    ThyTempest
    Re: New Puppy...
    I love Shepherds too....be careful with joint problems, especially hip dysplasia, even more especially since both the dam and the sire were on the big side for the breed.
  • 01-11-2009, 10:19 PM
    hoax
    Re: New Puppy...
  • 01-11-2009, 10:22 PM
    Blu Mongoose
    Re: New Puppy...
    What a cutie!!:)
  • 01-12-2009, 12:06 AM
    SecurityStacey
    Re: New Puppy...
    Ah, what an absolute cutey!

    He looks just absolutely perfect! He is gonna grow up to be quite the handsome guy!

    And puppy paws! You got them! :banana: Nothing kills me more than those big old puppy paws on a lil guy!
  • 01-12-2009, 12:15 AM
    starmom
    Re: New Puppy...
    Wow!!! I can see why you could not resist!!!! Sweetie heart!!!
  • 01-12-2009, 12:35 AM
    tigerlily
    Re: New Puppy...
    Wow you call your girlfriend your old lady and she let's you live to see another day? :rofl: Sorry I'm not sure why that just struck my as funny.

    Anyway, that puppy is going to be a gorgeous dog. Very cute, and you're just fueling my itch for a new puppy. :slamhead:
  • 01-12-2009, 12:37 AM
    Pandora
    Re: New Puppy...
    :O Oh just look at that face!!
    And those paws...
    I'm very jealous, my next dog is definitely going to be a German shepherd. However, I do agree with an earlier post... they're very prone to hip dysplacia, as is my Aussie shep.
  • 01-12-2009, 12:53 AM
    thatkindofgirl
    Re: New Puppy...
    Congrats on the new pup, he is very handsome already and I'm sure will only get more so the older he gets!! They are such a loyal breed.
  • 01-12-2009, 09:32 AM
    hoax
    Re: New Puppy...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tigerlily View Post
    Wow you call your girlfriend your old lady and she let's you live to see another day? :rofl: Sorry I'm not sure why that just struck my as funny. :slamhead:

    I call my wife my old lady. I guess you could call it a cultural thing???? She doesn't mind she understands its outta love.
  • 01-12-2009, 09:37 AM
    hoax
    Re: New Puppy...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blu Mongoose View Post
    What a cutie!!:)

    Thank you. He is cute but he is clumsy, which just makes him cuter.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SecurityStacey View Post
    Ah, what an absolute cutey!

    He looks just absolutely perfect! He is gonna grow up to be quite the handsome guy!

    And puppy paws! You got them! :banana: Nothing kills me more than those big old puppy paws on a lil guy!

    I hope them paws get bigger and he grows into them.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starmom View Post
    Wow!!! I can see why you could not resist!!!! Sweetie heart!!!

    My wife was so mad. I told her when I left I was just looking.....

    Well I came, I saw, I could not help myself, resistance was futile!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pandora View Post
    :O Oh just look at that face!!
    And those paws...
    I'm very jealous, my next dog is definitely going to be a German shepherd. However, I do agree with an earlier post... they're very prone to hip dysplacia, as is my Aussie shep.

    He is a little heart breaker. I hope I do not have any problems with hip dysplacia.

    Me and my dad are talking about breeding them.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thatkindofgirl View Post
    Congrats on the new pup, he is very handsome already and I'm sure will only get more so the older he gets!! They are such a loyal breed.

    Thank you. The loyalty is 50% of why I got a GSD. the other 50% is the looks
  • 01-12-2009, 09:41 AM
    Typical_08
    Re: New Puppy...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hoax View Post
    I hope I do not have any problems with hip dysplacia.

    Well if he came from a responsible breeder, his parents would have been checked prior to breeding. But that does not mean that he won't have it, or his parents don't have the gene.

    We had a good GSD a while ago, but donated him to an aid dog traininer when he was still a pup. He was too good of a dog to just have as a pet and personal protection dog. I talked to her a few months ago, and it seems as if he was placed as a seeing eye dog, but had some problems when he was an adolecent. It seems as if he was growing so fast that he was in pain so they had to medicate him.

    GSDs are a great breed, and I wish you luck with the pup. :)
  • 01-12-2009, 03:10 PM
    starmom
    Re: New Puppy...
    Prior to when you want to breed, and yet still waiting until he is over a year old, get a PennHip done on him :)
  • 01-12-2009, 08:22 PM
    hoax
    Re: New Puppy...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starmom View Post
    Prior to when you want to breed, and yet still waiting until he is over a year old, get a PennHip done on him :)

    Thank you I never knew how they tested for it. Our two GSD's we had when i was a child were adoptions, so I have never been to a real breeder before.

    I will be taking him to the vet in a few weeks, I will talk to the vet about what tests and procedures need to be done before breeding.

    He is AKC registered, my dad is getting an AKC registered girl. So we should have some great AKC registered pups.

    Also how would I go about learning how to show and do shutzhund?
  • 01-12-2009, 08:24 PM
    Melicious
    Re: New Puppy...
    Congrats on the new pup, Mike. He's so adorable. I love those humongous puppy paws.
  • 01-12-2009, 08:48 PM
    Typical_08
    Re: New Puppy...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hoax View Post
    Thank you I never knew how they tested for it. Our two GSD's we had when i was a child were adoptions, so I have never been to a real breeder before.

    I will be taking him to the vet in a few weeks, I will talk to the vet about what tests and procedures need to be done before breeding.

    He is AKC registered, my dad is getting an AKC registered girl. So we should have some great AKC registered pups.

    Also how would I go about learning how to show and do shutzhund?

    Are you wanting to do it for sport or protection?
  • 01-12-2009, 09:14 PM
    STORMS
    Re: New Puppy...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hoax View Post

    Also how would I go about learning how to show and do shutzhund?

    You should be able to find some info at these sites...

    www.schutzhund-training.com

    www.germanshepherddog.com/schutzhund/index.htm

    Good luck with him ;)
  • 01-12-2009, 10:05 PM
    hoax
    Re: New Puppy...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Melicious View Post
    Congrats on the new pup, Mike. He's so adorable. I love those humongous puppy paws.

    Thanks!!! I love em too!!!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Typical_08 View Post
    Are you wanting to do it for sport or protection?

    Both, I want him to be protective but not aggressive.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lenastorms View Post
    You should be able to find some info at these sites...

    www.schutzhund-training.com

    www.germanshepherddog.com/schutzhund/index.htm

    Good luck with him ;)

    Thanks doll! I need all the luck I can get.
  • 01-12-2009, 10:12 PM
    Typical_08
    Re: New Puppy...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hoax View Post
    Both, I want him to be protective but not aggressive.

    Do not rely on a sport dog to protect you. If you want a protection dog then please find a trainer that specializes in actual protection work. If you want a sporting dog then find a trainer in that.

    I have been training dogs for my entire life, and have trained several protection dogs, and several shutzhund sport dogs, but never did I attempt it by myself.
  • 01-12-2009, 10:33 PM
    hoax
    Re: New Puppy...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Typical_08 View Post
    Do not rely on a sport dog to protect you. If you want a protection dog then please find a trainer that specializes in actual protection work. If you want a sporting dog then find a trainer in that.

    I have been training dogs for my entire life, and have trained several protection dogs, and several shutzhund sport dogs, but never did I attempt it by myself.

    Sounds good. How would I go about finding a reputable trainer. What kind of questions should I ask? Is there anything I should look for (I.E. warning signs of trainers to avoid) I have never even owned a dog worth training.... How do I even begin???? I feel so lost. I was just going to do the basics ya know heel, sit, stay, lay down... Then I really got to looking into this dogs potential , and I realized I would be doing a great dis-service not giving this dog the opportunity to do great things....

    I would rather have a protective dog than a sport dog... As much as I would like to have the fun of a sport dog, I would get a better use of a protection dog.

    The most important question, I have a young son (7), I just do not want an aggressive dog....

    I NEED SOME HELP PLEASE!!!!!
  • 09-21-2009, 06:42 PM
    Packer lakerfan4
    Re: New Puppy...
    175lb male and 125lb female??? either both are WAY overweight or they are breeding large boned shepherds, if so have fun paying 1000's on vet bills for hip and joint problems. no disrespect at all just letting you know that kind of weight on adult gsd's is NOT normal. my male is considered large and is almost over breed standard he is 27" at the withers. did they show you proof that the female was a show dog? because no show that i know of would let an overweight/big boned in espeically if its weight reflects its size
  • 09-21-2009, 06:52 PM
    Packer lakerfan4
    Re: New Puppy...
    as far as sport or protection goes...does he even have the drive to do either? thats the first question you have got to ask yourself. go to a club after he gets all his shots and have an expert evaluate him for both. as far as a child goes as long as you raise the pup to respect the child AND vice versa there should be no problems make sure the kid feeds/lets out/water/brush/walks/and even helps a little bit with the initial OB training. my parents/family have been breeding gsd's since before i was born...do you realize how much work/time/money/training/socializing goes into breeding any dog but especially shepherds i mean you might make a small profit but nothing close to a great one. my parents do it on the side, they both have full time jobs my dad is a k9 officer and mom works at home just think about what your doing before you bring more shephers into the world that could end up in wrong hands like many do. breed for fun and love of the breed not profit.
    -zach
  • 09-21-2009, 06:59 PM
    Ladydragon
    Re: New Puppy...
    wow.. those are some huge paws! good looking gsd, congrats on bringing him home. Did you make sure to buy a big enough dog house so that you and pup both can fit into it together? LOL

    all kidding aside. congrats again. He really is gorgeous.
  • 09-22-2009, 11:12 AM
    accidental777
    Re: New Puppy...
    Beautiful GSD pup!
    When people are talking about tests for hip displaysia, they are talking about an OFA certification. More than likely, the parents of you pup will have an OFA certification. They should have been rated at good at the very least. An OFA certification, is usually given by a vet after an animal is two years of age. The reason that most vets wait until the animal is two, is because that is usually when you can begin to see signs of hip displaysia.
    I am sure the breeder of you pup will be more than willing to give you an answer on whether or not the parents were OFA certified.
  • 09-22-2009, 11:20 AM
    ballpythonluvr
    Re: New Puppy...
    What a cutie! He is going to be one big and beautiful boy! I just love German Shepherds!
  • 09-22-2009, 11:24 AM
    TheOtherLeadingBrand
    Re: New Puppy...
    Hi there! I love German Shepherds, and your is beautful!!!

    I have one myself. He is German lines, DDR and WGSL. He is a bi-color and a long coat to boot!

    http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...k/sep09037.jpg

    I have to add that those parents are vastly oversized. No GSD should weigh more than 100 pounds, and that's pushing it. I am hopeful mine will be about 75 or 80. I want an athletic, fast, strong, healthy dog!

    If you want to breed, check out the clearances. GSDs are rampant with health problems. What lines is the female you're getting?

    This is my puppy's pedigree:

    http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/...ee/616966.html

    Minimum clearances for breeding:

    OFA fair, good, or excellent hips OR a Pennhip, done after age two years IMO
    OFA normal elbows
    OFA normal heart ultrasound
    CERF eye exam annually
    vWD test
    Normal thyroid panel
    No history of bloat in your dog or in any immediate family

    Bloat is a major killer of GSDs and has a genetic link

    Temperament is a HUGE issue in GSDs. Fearful, nervous, timid, unstable, weak nerved, noise-sensitive, or aggressive dogs are NOT correct and should never be bred.
  • 09-22-2009, 11:26 AM
    TheOtherLeadingBrand
    Re: New Puppy...
    Simply go to www.offa.org and type in the parents' names in the search for dogs database.
  • 09-22-2009, 12:48 PM
    accidental777
    Re: New Puppy...
    Relief....I knew someone had to know what I was typing about lol.
  • 09-23-2009, 02:07 AM
    Packer lakerfan4
    Re: New Puppy...
    completely agree if you have a constant nervous/unsure or agressive acting dog dont breed. if the parents are not ofa certified dont breed, socialize the hell out of that puppy and then train because if a 120lb german shepherd (Which shouldnt be that big) even barks at somebody...most ppl will consider it vicious and its just a bad rap the breed has. try to get a complete pedigree of the parents
    -This is my gsd "Eiko" he is a west german and czech lines i'll also attach his pedigree. he comes from amazing lines and has the genitics to do anything from detection to therpy dog, his favorite thing is bite work and obedience
    http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h7...100_0232-1.jpg
    http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h7...100_0267-1.jpg

    http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/...ee/563964.html
  • 09-23-2009, 08:18 AM
    TheOtherLeadingBrand
    Re: New Puppy...
    Great looking dog!

    BTW IMO no average person, myself included, should have a dog that would actually bite someone. Barking and looking scary is more than enough for most people.

    Be very careful in wishing and hoping your dog would bite someone.
  • 09-23-2009, 04:43 PM
    Packer lakerfan4
    Re: New Puppy...
    Very true. a gsd can "Deter" somebody or atleast make them think twice if they are going to rob you or whatever. the only reason i train in protection and schtzhund is for the dog to have an outlet for energy. fetch and walks just dont do it for most of these dogs they need a strenuous activity and a "Job" if you will
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