Tell Me What You Think...

Theres another kid on youtube, one of my online friends actually, he goes by the name of "jayjayhootie" , he said that a female ball python can successfully be bred at 850 grams!! i Got into an argument with him and told him that a female ball pythons shouldn't be bred until she reaches the weight of 1500 grams. He said, many pro breeders have bred them at 850 grams!! I also told him that this could be very dangerous for the female... Am i right? or is he right? And has there really been breeders that bred them at 850 grams?

i have never heard of anyone breeding a girl that small. i personally would never try it, it seems to be way to risky.

I have heard of some small girls breeding but I mean 1100 grams on the low end. 850 grams in my opinion is ridiculous. Even if you can get them to lay for you at that low of a weight they will most likely slug out the next season and most likely many more after that. This is a perfect example of someone wanting to rush things and put the snakes health in jeopardy. IMHO I think you are exactly right and he has lost it for lack of a better way to say it

I heard a breeder that had a 850g girl gravid.. 4 eggs I think..

Alan

That's insane who would want to do that?

Can they be? Yes.

Should they be? No.

ask jasballs,oh yeah hes banned.

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Originally Posted by Butters420

ask jasballs,oh yeah hes banned.

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lol, I was just about to say, where's Jas when you need him. Typically a female that is being bred at 850g is a female thats 3-4 years old that just never really put on the weight, I'd imagine trying to breed a yearling at 850g simply would not work.

I agree.

Barker's book mentions females as small as 0.7kg (700g) laying clutches but they also talk about giving some females up to 4 years to gain weight before breeding them to maximize that females laying potential.

IMO it takes years of experience to know the difference between a healthy breedable female and one that is not ready to be bred. The "easy" rule is 1500g and 3 years old.

Patience is really a virtue for breeders. I realize people are in a rush to see a return on their investment and make that next morph but there is a limit to where you aren't thinking in the best interest of the animal.

Hope that helps :)

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Originally Posted by RKO

Can they be? Yes.

Should they be? No.

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i had a 900 gram female breed on me last year. Three Healthy, big beautiful eggs :)

I wouldnt purposefully breed at that size, but it is not unheard of.

How old was she Moo??

Alan

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Originally Posted by Butters420

ask jasballs,oh yeah hes banned.

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I was thinking the same thing! I do recall him posting something somewhere about the 800 - 900 gram females and 300 gram males he successfully got to breed. Though I don't remember where I came across it.

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Originally Posted by DBD

Theres another kid on youtube, one of my online friends actually, he goes by the name of "jayjayhootie" , he said that a female ball python can successfully be bred at 850 grams!! i Got into an argument with him and told him that a female ball pythons shouldn't be bred until she reaches the weight of 1500 grams. He said, many pro breeders have bred them at 850 grams!! I also told him that this could be very dangerous for the female... Am i right? or is he right? And has there really been breeders that bred them at 850 grams?

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Thanks for blowing me up on here. I really appreciate it. LOL .

Sorry, This is completely off topic, but seeing as how I saw this on PythonBreeder's public profile, on his visitor messages, I figured I'd ask..

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Originally Posted by DBD

Im actually getting my account deleted or banned from here, i don't like here lol

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If you don't like it here...Why are you even logging on?
If you don't like it here...Why not just..leave?
If you don't like it here...Is there a reason why you need to get your account deleted or banned?
Because, if you don't like it here...How come you can't just 'lose' your account information and never come back?

Also, can I ask, WHY you don't like it here? Because, as far as I'm concerned, the people of this site that I have come to respect, gave you a chance to learn and grow. Also, though you showed up acting like a huge know it all and making a complete arse out of yourself, they were kind enough to look the other way and educate you so you wouldn't harm your snakes, and your possible future in the business. As far as I'm concerned, every time you come on here asking for advice, these people answer you graciously and point you in the right direction, which shouldn't make you "not like it here". As far as I'm concerned, there is absolutely no reason for you to want to have your account deleted or banned. No reason for you to dislike this community, when you barged in with obscene videos and retarded "advice and caresheets," throwing vulgar insults at a particular member and her hubby, to just have everyone help you out and look after you.

Just my two cents though :)

i have allways bred them at 1,000 grams. you can breed them at 850 grams but its not safe.

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Originally Posted by bailey23

i have allways bred them at 1,000 grams. you can breed them at 850 grams but its not safe.

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Ok I must ask (see no disrespect in my question) but you are very young, so tell me what exactly is your breeding experience, how many years have you been breeding for, exactly how many 1000 grams females have you bred and how many clutches have you successfully hatch.

If you have that much experience you should also know that it is not something that should be done just by anyone especially not someone new to this, people who do this have MANY years of experience under their belt so what is your?

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Originally Posted by bailey23

i have allways bred them at 1,000 grams. you can breed them at 850 grams but its not safe.

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Really? How many clutches have you bred and hatched so far? At what size were those females you've bred?

For the OP, it's his snake, and he'll do whatever he wants to with it, but breeding a female that small is not reccomended, especially not by someone without a lot of experiance.