Any comments on Harlequin Wide-Stripe's?

Anyone care to offer opinions on Harlequin Wide-Stripe Ball Pythons?

You like, dislike, show promise, etc?

Brandon

post pics. these posts get much more responses when someone asks for comments and adds a pic for people to look at :)

I'm pretty darn sure that there is no single gene that causes that pattern to occur.

However I'm quite interested in selective breeding for pattern. Selective breeding really does work, but with something such as pattern, there are so many factors that you can't have drastic changes/improvement over a single generation(unlike selective breeding for a weird mutation, like most animals dubbed "morphs").

There is a great deal of potential for fully striped patterns, just like there is great potential for reduced patterns. However It really does look like whatever causes the stripe in the "wide stripe harlequin" isn't a single mutated gene.

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Originally Posted by takagari

post pics. these posts get much more responses when someone asks for comments and adds a pic for people to look at :)

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Pic's or we picket!!!!!!

Heck no we don't know.... unless you get us some pic's

OK, heres a pic of one, for example, the wide stripe is fully connected, coincidence? Perhaps. Whatya think?

http://www.vmsherp.com/images/ForSale/9001.JPG

Brandon

its cool looking. Normal at first glance and then its like whoah there is somethin funky about this one. I like it

http://www.vmsherp.com/ViewWideStripeBalls.htm

I have a dinker who is similar- hope to find out something with her next year.

i didnt think that the harlequin was proven yet?

I definitely would not mind having one in my collection-especially a female ;)

Like this?

This girl has NO black on her:
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0064-2.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0067-5.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0068-4.jpg

Also have another female, but don't have any current pictures of her. She's alot darker than the female pictured.

As far as I know, harlequins are an unproven trait. They just appear.

I wouldn't mind having a nice looking female, like Becky's. But I wouldn't attempt to breed a male because as far as I know, they are normal.

I remember at a show a couple years back I saw a harlequin running at $500 and the guy admitted he didn't know the genetics behind them. Just thought they were funky normals.

I love your striper Becky....but I hate that my girl wont coil like a normal BP to save her life....shes just being rebellious I guess. Her typical coil looks more like what a 6 foot guy looks like trying to sleep on a 4 foot couch.

Thanks :) I plan on putting her with my Het Ivory male this season and seeing what pops up. Maybe just nice, light YBs, maybe not. :D

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Originally Posted by ThyTempest

I love your striper Becky....but I hate that my girl wont coil like a normal BP to save her life....shes just being rebellious I guess. Her typical coil looks more like what a 6 foot guy looks like trying to sleep on a 4 foot couch.

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Haha- I think our girls came from the same family! My first ball does the same thing. When I got me second ball, a pastel, I was ecstatic to finally hold a balled up snake that was willing to put some effort into his ball! :oops:

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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention

Like this?

This girl has NO black on her:
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0064-2.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0067-5.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0068-4.jpg

Also have another female, but don't have any current pictures of her. She's alot darker than the female pictured.

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Becky....that snake is awesome!!! Definitely worth a breeding project.

For what it is worth, even if that snake was a male I would still run it up the flagpole.

Keep us posted:)