Why No Edit Option?

Why is the edit option not available after 10 minutes?

Nate mentioned in several posts that a mod can edit a post if there is a legitimate reason. What reason would the original poster need other than wanting to change the post?

Thanks

For informational reasons and to not cause trouble. Some people will post and make a heated argument, and if they do not agree they could go back and delete all of their posts so not only does anyone else who joins the thread have no idea whats going on now, but its annoying as hell. Especially if someone gets into a fight, and then after changes their posts to sound like the person is yelling at them for nothing. Its just a lot of things that could go wrong and Ive been more annoyed with forums that allow members to edit their posts infinitely then one that only lets you edit for ten. Some forums do not let you edit posts at all!!! I'm sure a mod or admin will tell you why this forum does not, but that's my opinion on it.

Matt:

I know what you're saying but people playing games is not a good enough reason to turn off the edit option. There are ways to handle the situation you mentioned.

I'm still waiting to hear from a mod or admin about why it's off.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

Why is the edit option not available after 10 minutes?

Nate mentioned in several posts that a mod can edit a post if there is a legitimate reason. What reason would the original poster need other than wanting to change the post?

Thanks

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Simply because it's a preference that the Administrators before me have set, and we do not intend on changing.

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

Matt:

I know what you're saying but people playing games is not a good enough reason to turn off the edit option. There are ways to handle the situation you mentioned.

I'm still waiting to hear from a mod or admin about why it's off.

Thanks.

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The situation Matt mentioned is indeed one of the primary reasons. I would rather prevent that sort of a situation than deal with it. :)

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Originally Posted by Nate

The situation Matt mentioned is indeed one of the primary reasons. I would rather prevent that sort of a situation than deal with it. :)

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Kinda goes against the reason moderators exist - to deal with it. :rolleyes:

Thanks.

Why would you want to edit? Just make a new post.... :confused:

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

Kinda goes against the reason moderators exist - to deal with it. :rolleyes:

Thanks.

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The entirely volunteer staff are dealing with many other things. No need to un-necessarily add more to their plate when 10 minutes is more than enough time to edit a post.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Why would you want to edit? Just make a new post.... :confused:

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The primary reason to encourage editing and not multiple posts is to reduce the clutter. The person that pays for this forum must have unlimited funds because most forum owners would never encourage the number of repeat posts and photo downloads this site has. And to save every post even though the same topics are repeated ad nauseum, something I have contributed to, is unusual.

I work on (mod, super mod and admin) and frequent 6 forums daily and 25 others regularly and the posting rules are very strict. The rules all work to the same end - reduce bandwidth use and storage because both cost money.

Whatever works. :gj:

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

The person that pays for this forum must have unlimited funds because most forum owners would never encourage the number of repeat posts and photo downloads this site has. And to save every post even though the same topics are repeated ad nauseum, something I have contributed to, is unusual.

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The four admins own this site equally. The site pays for itself with advertising. Nate can address bandwith, as he's one of our two techie admins. I let him and Emily worry about that.

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

The primary reason to encourage editing and not multiple posts is to reduce the clutter. The person that pays for this forum must have unlimited funds because most forum owners would never encourage the number of repeat posts and photo downloads this site has. And to save every post even though the same topics are repeated ad nauseum, something I have contributed to, is unusual.

I work on (mod, super mod and admin) and frequent 6 forums daily and 25 others regularly and the posting rules are very strict. The rules all work to the same end - reduce bandwidth use and storage because both cost money.

Whatever works. :gj:

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I think for this forum, which is representing an industry that exists almost wholly online for wide spread instant communication, is safe guarding and working towards limiting less than savory characters that would have the option of amending their statements whenever they please.

I think in this instance, the pros far out weigh the cons for this hobby and forum.

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

The primary reason to encourage editing and not multiple posts is to reduce the clutter.The person that pays for this forum must have unlimited funds because most forum owners would never encourage the number of repeat posts and photo downloads this site has. And to save every post even though the same topics are repeated ad nauseum, something I have contributed to, is unusual.

I work on (mod, super mod and admin) and frequent 6 forums daily and 25 others regularly and the posting rules are very strict. The rules all work to the same end - reduce bandwidth use and storage because both cost money.

Whatever works. :gj:

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And that my friend is why BP.net is in a league of it's own. We don't operate the way other forums do.

We're here to help if that means that the same question gets asked twice a day every day for every month. We can answer the user directly. We're here to help promote this hobby and to educate keepers on a personal basis.

I still do not get why you need to edit after ten minutes. The first time you post, look at it, edit, look at it again, edit some more, and then post it right the right time. I mean, it sounds like you trying to say you want to edit to add more information instead of making a new post, and I find that a little odd because I for one would not want to have to worry about re reading posts just to see if they have changed. I have nothing against this forum, but this is a great example of why you should not be allowed to edit a post after ten minutes. She was " Rescueing" A snake that NEEDED to be put down.

http://constrictors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22330

I have to agree that the option now is much nicer than other forums I've been on.

I Admined on this kiddy forum a while back, a lot of our problems were involved with not being able to 'catch' someone flaming or trolling, because they would go back and edit. We would be lost without proof and it was a lot more difficult to just ban someone if we weren't sure what they actually said or did wrong.

Arguments were also a problem, and people would often argue heated points, then change their points when they felt like it.

They had bandwidth problems too. People had bad ways of assessing problems, and there was a lot more junk piled up there then here.. and they weren't allowed double posting.

However, there was a useless 'spam' section. :rolleyes:

I can understand what the admins are saying and if it pays for itself, there's no reason to limit.

Freakie_frog: I agree that this forum is unique.

As further info for the non-mods: In the forums where I "work", mods are online 24/7 and we read every single post. No one gets to flame or post anything that's not in line with the rules. A mod will contact the poster and ask them to edit or delete their post and will educate them behind the scenes as to why their post was inappropriate. If resistance is met, the mods take action.

Incorrect info is always corrected with a reply so everyone learns but bad behavior is not tolerated in public. That's what mods do - they moderate. And every mod I know is a volunteer.

Some forums make the mistake of limiting the number of mods which adds to the individual workload. On one particularly busy site, we assign mods to specific forums and sub-forums. Other mods (super mods) just roam around. The admins handle running the site and do not moderate.

I'm not bucking the system because if it works, great. I was just asking about a specific feature that I have not seen limited before.

Thanks for the replies.
JohnNJ

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Originally Posted by rabernet

The site pays for itself with advertising.

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I'm guessing, based on the new membership subscription program, that the four admins took another look at the books and found out the site wasn't paying for itself. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

I'm guessing, based on the new membership subscription program, that the four admins took another look at the books and found out the site wasn't paying for itself. :rolleyes:

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And we could certainly continue to do so, if we wanted to splash more ads across the site. We decided to try something new, and this comes after many, many requests from members wanting to help support the site in some way. It's a chance to let the community participate in supporting itself.

Thank you for your feedback on the editing feature. Your remarks have been noted. We have no plans to change the policy at this time.

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

The person that pays for this forum must have unlimited funds because most forum owners would never encourage the number of repeat posts and photo downloads this site has.

I can understand what the admins are saying and if it pays for itself, there's no reason to limit.

Some forums make the mistake of limiting the number of mods which adds to the individual workload.

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Amazing how this one little thread has had such an impact on this forum. We now have paid subscriptions (to limit ads, of course) and today have added two new mods to help with the workload.

I'm glad I could inspire such positive change. :rofl:

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

Amazing how this one little thread has had such an impact on this forum. We now have paid subscriptions (to limit ads, of course) and today have added two new mods to help with the workload.

I'm glad I could inspire such positive change. :rofl:

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Yeaup....all because one guy couldn't edit a post from the past. That's why we have hundreds and hundreds of members logging in every single day and thousands registered. :gj: THANKS!!

Don't act so surprised. We always concider the suggestions of our members. It helps make this site so user friendly.

Its just one more way that Bp.net proves we are your home for all things Herp related.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

We always consider the suggestions of our members.

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Thanks for recognizing my contribution. It is much appreciated. :salute:

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Originally Posted by JohnNJ

Amazing how this one little thread has had such an impact on this forum. We now have paid subscriptions (to limit ads, of course) and today have added two new mods to help with the workload.

I'm glad I could inspire such positive change. :rofl:

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Are you kidding or serious?

Sounded sarcastic to me. But hey, can't please everyone, and it seems to be only a very small minority who are unhappy. If it's that bad, they can stay on their boards where they can run things their way. :confuzd: