Unboxing My NEW ALBINO BALL PYTHON!!!!

Part 1:
YouTube - Albino Ball Python Unboxing Part 1

Part 2:
YouTube - Albino Ball Python Unboxing Part 2 - The Close Up

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In the video, i say im going to breed him in a few months when he's atleast 500 grams, please ignore that, after weighing him (he's 300 grams), i realized im going to just wait until the next breeding season rolls around to pair him up with the 02 & 03 100% het albino females that are coming in tuesday Jan.6.09...

I am positive that was supposed to be delivered to my house:)

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Originally Posted by DBD

***NOTE***
In the video, i say im going to breed him in a few months when he's atleast 500 grams, please ignore that, after weighing him (he's 300 grams), i realized im going to just wait until the next breeding season rolls around to pair him up with the 02 & 03 100% het albino females that are coming in tuesday Jan.6.09...

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so basically you planned to not quarantine this animal!
or the other 2 you have comming

nevermind i saw the video no QT practice period!

Nice Albino....I'd say breed him to the 50%er first to try and prove her out though...cause then if you breed her to the spider the next year (if she proves out) you've got spiders 50% het albino ;)

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Originally Posted by nixer

nevermind i saw the video no QT practice period!

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Why do you care so much its his animal:rolleye2: And hes obviously young and determined especially if he has an albino already good luck:gj:

If he doesn't practice proper quarantine procedures, he should. Seeing as it appears he is trying to make a business name for himself, that would shine rather poorly in his favor. It is a breeders responsibility to make sure the animals they sell are healthy and disease free. If you want to make it more basic than that; it is a keepers responsibility also.

Some people simply don't know about why they should quarantine and need to be educated. Whenever I add a new addition to my collection; the animals get a veterinarian visit with a full checkup and a fecal. They also get six months in quarantine at the other end of my house. You can never be too cautious with boids.

That being said, they are very attractive animals. I hope for their sake, you do quarantine them for a minimum of three months.

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by rocko2527

Why do you care so much its his animal:rolleye2: And hes obviously young and determined especially if he has an albino already good luck:gj:

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lol i think you need to learn something also.
if thats what you wanna call it.:rofl:
i see many lost animals in both of your collections

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Originally Posted by nixer

lol i think you need to learn something also.
if thats what you wanna call it.:rofl:
i see many lost animals in both of your collections

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I normally try to stay in the shadows but I didn't see anything about Rocko saying he did not QT. So I dont get this portion or your reply. I also feel the need to make it very clear that I DO QT animals. I have 7 new snakes in my old bedroom as I type this. This is where they will stay for a few months or until I feel they are healthy and of no threat to my collection.

Not to be a busy body but he didn't have to say he didn't QT , it's obvious from the second video he DOES NOT, but it's a MUST DO or he will, take the risk of maybe loosing those beautiful creatures.

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Originally Posted by llovelace

Not to be a busy body but he didn't have to say he didn't QT , it's obvious from the second video he DOES NOT, but it's a MUST DO or he will, take the risk of maybe loosing those beautiful creatures.

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I meant Rocko

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Originally Posted by nixer

nevermind i saw the video no QT practice period!

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Geez, I really have to make a quick update vid.. I had just put the 2 new snakes into the rack when I realized I needed to quarintine from now on, I had the memory of it in the back of my head, so I quickly took them out of the rack with their containers and put the lids on them.. Then I got 2 small heat pad to put under the containers and moved them into another room downstairs... That is quarintining, Correct?

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Originally Posted by Michelle.C

If he doesn't practice proper quarantine procedures, he should. Seeing as it appears he is trying to make a business name for himself, that would shine rather poorly in his favor. It is a breeders responsibility to make sure the animals they sell are healthy and disease free. If you want to make it more basic than that; it is a keepers responsibility also.

Some people simply don't know about why they should quarantine and need to be educated. Whenever I add a new addition to my collection; the animals get a veterinarian visit with a full checkup and a fecal. They also get six months in quarantine at the other end of my house. You can never be too cautious with boids.

That being said, they are very attractive animals. I hope for their sake, you do quarantine them for a minimum of three months.

Good luck!

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read my reply to nixer

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Originally Posted by nixer

lol i think you need to learn something also.
if thats what you wanna call it.:rofl:
i see many lost animals in both of your collections

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Excuse Me? By BOTH of your collections, you don't mean mine right? B/c if you do then you are BADLY MISTAKEN! I have NEVER & repeat NEVER lost an animal in my collection. So I have no clue what you are talking about, that is, if BOTH includes ME. Btw, by the caps, im not trying to make those words seem aggressive, im just trying to highlight them...

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Originally Posted by DBD

I have NEVER & repeat NEVER lost an animal in my collection.

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if you do not qt you take the risk of loosing your whole collection!i know you said you are going to from here out and i hope your being honest about that for you own sake.good luck!

ps. saying jesus christ in your vids can offend some people very much.it didnt bother me but there are people on here that would definately let you hear about it.

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Originally Posted by DBD

Excuse Me? By BOTH of your collections, you don't mean mine right? B/c if you do then you are BADLY MISTAKEN! I have NEVER & repeat NEVER lost an animal in my collection. So I have no clue what you are talking about, that is, if BOTH includes ME. Btw, by the caps, im not trying to make those words seem aggressive, im just trying to highlight them...

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By both he means you and Rocko. He is assuming that Rocko does not QT because of his comment on the first page of the thread.

I believe QTing animals is a very smart thing to do for several reasons and something I practice as an individual....but like many things in life it's a choice. Not to defend not doing it but there are several ways to lose an entire collection besides QT that I don't think everyone does:

Redundant thermostats (in case one fails and frys your animals)
Backup generator (for power failures in extreme temperatures)
Tabs or conduit on cages to keep cages closed if one should escape and open other cages.
An escape plan including snake bags and boxes for every animal in your collection should a fire/disaster happen.
Escapeproofing the 'herp" room

I'm sure there are also more I'm forgetting.

All of these things to me carry potential to lose a portion or all of one's collection but as an individual we have the right to choose which, if any, we want to practice.

As keepers I think it is great that we can pass our experiences and information onto others to help them and educate them about the risks that they could be taking by not practicing certain husbandry techniques. BUT it is their choice to practice those techniques or not. Some people are riskier individuals than others and that is their choice.

We as buyers can ask about these practices and weigh our decision to purchase based on these techniques just as we can choose what to do after we receive an animal.

I'm not trying to be preachy but the best method IMO is to educate the community and politely inform them of the potential risks that they run from certain practices (or the lack thereof). If they choose to heed that advice or not is completely up to them.

Hope that helps :)

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Originally Posted by DBD

Excuse Me? By BOTH of your collections, you don't mean mine right? B/c if you do then you are BADLY MISTAKEN! I have NEVER & repeat NEVER lost an animal in my collection. So I have no clue what you are talking about, that is, if BOTH includes ME. Btw, by the caps, im not trying to make those words seem aggressive, im just trying to highlight them...

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Also in Nixer's defense You can lose an entire collection very quickly if you take in one animal with some unforeseen disease or parasite or what have you. There was someone on here a few months back (could have been another forum also can't remember) who lost the better part of a collection within a week or so if i remember correctly. (If anyone knows what im talking about could you please post link to thread. THanks. ).

I only buy from a few people that I trust don't just go & take in rescues full of mites & stuff that people do all the time.My collection is worth to much money to bring in a unknown snake,the last snakes I bought where QTed for about 6 weeks(a little short by some standards),& where from well known breeders(only 3 I deal with).Also watch where your feeders come from they can bring in desease to.

I feel bad that the OPs thread got so seriously hijacked -

That albino is sweet dude. Hope the female proves out for you!

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Originally Posted by jpman78

I believe QTing animals is a very smart thing to do for several reasons and something I practice as an individual....but like many things in life it's a choice. Not to defend not doing it but there are several ways to lose an entire collection besides QT that I don't think everyone does:

Redundant thermostats (in case one fails and frys your animals)
Backup generator (for power failures in extreme temperatures)
Tabs or conduit on cages to keep cages closed if one should escape and open other cages.
An escape plan including snake bags and boxes for every animal in your collection should a fire/disaster happen.
Escapeproofing the 'herp" room

I'm sure there are also more I'm forgetting.

All of these things to me carry potential to lose a portion or all of one's collection but as an individual we have the right to choose which, if any, we want to practice.

As keepers I think it is great that we can pass our experiences and information onto others to help them and educate them about the risks that they could be taking by not practicing certain husbandry techniques. BUT it is their choice to practice those techniques or not. Some people are riskier individuals than others and that is their choice.

We as buyers can ask about these practices and weigh our decision to purchase based on these techniques just as we can choose what to do after we receive an animal.

I'm not trying to be preachy but the best method IMO is to educate the community and politely inform them of the potential risks that they run from certain practices (or the lack thereof). If they choose to heed that advice or not is completely up to them.

Hope that helps :)

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I am Quarintining..

Message to everyone replying about quarantining! You guys don't have to reply with your thoughts on how i should be quarantining. I am quarantining, in the video i put the snake into the rack, but soon realized i had to start quarantining, so i removed the two new snakes from the rack system and put them in their own little containers with small heat pad under each of their containers, and moved them to another room, on another level of my house, and am quarantining them until August, my start of the breeding season (I go by 8 ball python's breeding calendar, as that is where learned all my temps and timing from)... I will also be quarantining the 4 new ball pythons i have coming (0.1 02 het albino, 0.1 03 het albino, 1.0 het albino, 1.0 het albino)...

Nice albino...was the butterfly knife necessary? Also, it frightens me that you had quarantining in "the back of your mind" that should be first and foremost when bringing in new animals. All it takes is one exposure to your collection, like they've already had, to transmit disease, albeit very unlikely. And as said before, it didn't bother me but the excessive use of "jesus christ" in your video may offend alot of people.

And one final thing, do you have a job that paid for all the animals you own? Not trying to offend you, just curious how someone who seems so young was able to afford all the animals listed on your youtube channel.

That's great.

The point of my other post really was that you can do what you want. I just want others to politely provide feedback rather than chastising you for not doing it. (e.g. "did you know..." instead of "you didn't QT!")

As I said before there are many husbandry practices that lessen the amount of risk people take. All are good ideas but none are absolutely necessary for keeping animals.

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Originally Posted by DBD

I am Quarintining..

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He is a very nice albino.

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Originally Posted by Peter Williams

Nice albino...was the butterfly knife necessary? Also, it frightens me that you had quarantining in "the back of your mind" that should be first and foremost when bringing in new animals. All it takes is one exposure to your collection, like they've already had, to transmit disease, albeit very unlikely. And as said before, it didn't bother me but the excessive use of "jesus christ" in your video may offend alot of people.

And one final thing, do you have a job that paid for all the animals you own? Not trying to offend you, just curious how someone who seems so young was able to afford all the animals listed on your youtube channel.

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Does it really matter what i used to open my package? I could have used a butter knife, but id rather have sharp knife that glides across the tape to open it instead of a dull knife that i would have to stab downward to cut the box tape which could potentially stab into my snake and injure it severly... I didnt let the snake come in contact with any of my current collection, and i buy from reputable breeders, that had either sold me or friends of mine snakes in the past.. and i right after i realized that i needed to quarantine the animals & i did so... The reason it was in the back of my mind was because i never quarantined any of my animals previously, tbh, and learned i should do so from this site... Also, if it offends you that i say jesus christ, im sorry, the snake was so beautiful ans shocking, that when i opened the package i really didnt know what i was saying :) And to answer your last question, yes i pay for ALL of my animals, i am 15, and do have working papers, so while all my buddies are out "chilling" and "hanging out", im working my butt off to be able to afford all of whats in my collection, as i want to make my hobby into a full time career someday... Lol, what did you think, i stole all of these animals?

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Originally Posted by jpman78

That's great.

. I just want others to politely provide feedback rather than chastising you for not doing it. (e.g. "did you know..." instead of "you didn't QT!")

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Yes i agree with you on the the fact people on here should politely provide feedback... Many of which that have replied to this thread just come to it to pick out every little thing that is done wrong, instead of noticing it and advising i should do something differently instead of being obnoxious about it... Im not sure if its the fact that im getting a jumpstart on my collection of ball pythons earlier than they did, or if they just don't like the fact that i want to start a business and im younger than they are... Who knows lol, they should check out some of the kids on youtube that keep their ball pythons on sand and don't even provide heat for them, let alone Quarantine them :)

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

He is a very nice albino.

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Thankyou!

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Originally Posted by DBD

Does it really matter what i used to open my package? I could have used a butter knife, but id rather have sharp knife that glides across the tape to open it instead of a dull knife that i would have to stab downward to cut the box tape which could potentially stab into my snake and injure it severly... I didnt let the snake come in contact with any of my current collection, and i buy from reputable breeders, that had either sold me or friends of mine snakes in the past.. and i right after i realized that i needed to quarantine the animals & i did so... The reason it was in the back of my mind was because i never quarantined any of my animals previously, tbh, and learned i should do so from this site... Also, if it offends you that i say jesus christ, im sorry, the snake was so beautiful ans shocking, that when i opened the package i really didnt know what i was saying :) And to answer your last question, yes i pay for ALL of my animals, i am 15, and do have working papers, so while all my buddies are out "chilling" and "hanging out", im working my butt off to be able to afford all of whats in my collection, as i want to make my hobby into a full time career someday... Lol, what did you think, i stole all of these animals?

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And when i say "I could have used a BUTTER knife" i spelt that correctly...

What a beauty! Great contrast on that Albino!

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Originally Posted by DBD

Yes i agree with you on the the fact people on here should politely provide feedback... Many of which that have replied to this thread just come to it to pick out every little thing that is done wrong, instead of noticing it and advising i should do something differently instead of being obnoxious about it... Im not sure if its the fact that im getting a jumpstart on my collection of ball pythons earlier than they did, or if they just don't like the fact that i want to start a business and im younger than they are... Who knows lol, they should check out some of the kids on youtube that keep their ball pythons on sand and don't even provide heat for them, let alone Quarantine them :)

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how polite were you when you stole my friends pics of his site?how about the comments on youtube you posted are those polite also? either way you have yet to see me be unpolite!
im not jealous of you at all you dug your hole along time ago.
remember that retic line albino you supposedly have?

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Originally Posted by nixer

how polite were you when you stole my friends pics of his site?how about the comments on youtube you posted are those polite also? either way you have yet to see me be unpolite!
im not jealous of you at all you dug your hole along time ago.
remember that retic line albino you supposedly have?

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Did i not make a sincere apology and take the pictures off, plus close the site? Did i not apologize about the comments and promise not to use that language online ever again, and still live up to that promise to this day? I know everyone else on ball pythons dot net forgave me! And the women who sold the het albinos to me said they were het for retic line albino, I DIDNT MAKE UP THE NAME, she told me that, so i thought i would share the name with you guys to see if it existed, obviously not... It turned out to just be the name they called albino ball pythons with a jungle pattern. Nixer, you have been all over my case from the first day i started posting here, and have been trying to dig out every little thing i do wrong or say! What is you problem? If you don't like me, then why do you even bother coming to my threads? Even when i made the sincere apology to everyone i had gotten off to a bad start with, you still had something to point out and say, Remember? heres your exact words "You still have the pics of the boa", then i proved you wrong, and said it was my pet boa rambo, Why didn't you have a response? Do you have one now? You jump to conclusions, like just jumping to say "So your no quarantining them!" i beleive is how it went, why couldn't you just say "You should quarantine your animals from now on to provent any harmful diseases or parasites from spreading to your current collection"... Jeez, and you thought i was the one with the issues...

This thread is going splendidly....

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

This thread is going splendidly....

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yep, thats just about how all of my threads go :)

when you supposedly realized you forgot to QT why did you post the movie. you knew someone would point it out.

as for the retic line what thread was this where you asked anything about it ?
all i saw is a movie you made about it. when i brought it up you never said anything about it go back and look at your threads.:colbert:

as for the boa pics i wrongly assumed that they were also not yours, but also take note i thanked you when you said it was yours. that was on 12-10-08, but in this thread you said you sold it http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80695 either way whatever.:colbert:

"you have been all over my case from the first day i started posting here, and have been trying to dig out every little thing i do wrong or say!"
i think if you look back ive post or even looked at perhaps 4 threads you even started. really dude you need to stop pointing fingers at ppl for things you have no basis for :colbert:

"You jump to conclusions, like just jumping to say "So your no quarantining them!" i beleive is how it went" i jumped to a conclusion! really dude you posted the video about it! it was right there for everyone to see:colbert:

Yeah I think its time for admin to lock this thread or move to the QT room. I can see this getting worse before it gets better. Well nice bino you got there buddy. I understand you made a mistake. Ans now I can see this whole thing with nixer and you goes back before this thread so I will stay out of it from now on. Goodluck.

I did not want to jump into this BUT im starting to get a LITTLE annoyed...

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Geez, I really have to make a quick update vid.. I had just put the 2 new snakes into the rack when I realized I needed to quarantine from now on, I had the memory of it in the back of my head, so I quickly took them out of the rack with their containers and put the lids on them.. Then I got 2 small heat pad to put under the containers and moved them into another room downstairs... That is quarantining, Correct?

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No actually, now that you have had them in the same rack even for a short period of time .I would consider that just moving them after exposing them to your other animals.

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Originally Posted by DBD

Does it really matter what i used to open my package? I could have used a butter knife, but id rather have sharp knife that glides across the tape to open it instead of a dull knife that i would have to stab downward to cut the box tape which could potentially stab into my snake and injure it severly... I didnt let the snake come in contact with any of my current collection, and i buy from reputable breeders, that had either sold me or friends of mine snakes in the past.. and i right after i realized that i needed to quarantine the animals & i did so... The reason it was in the back of my mind was because i never quarantined any of my animals previously, tbh, and learned i should do so from this site... Also, if it offends you that i say jesus christ, im sorry, the snake was so beautiful ans shocking, that when i opened the package i really didnt know what i was saying :) And to answer your last question, yes i pay for ALL of my animals, i am 15, and do have working papers, so while all my buddies are out "chilling" and "hanging out", im working my butt off to be able to afford all of whats in my collection, as i want to make my hobby into a full time career someday... Lol, what did you think, i stole all of these animals?

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^^ Comments like that, and your talking about Bill not jumping to conclusions...

Its not the knife you used, its how fast you were doing it! The whole time you were cutting all I could think of is 1. Your not cutting carefully and 2. The way you move the box must have those snakes thinking they are on a roller coaster ride. About not letting these snakes come in contact with your current collection, letting them in the same rack to me is enough to do it. I do not even open my new snake boxes in the same room just because if they look sick/are dead/ or infested with mites ( Mites especially, one member opened up his boa shipment and his whole collection got mites because there were literally thousands of mites in the box and many of them came out) I contact the breeder and ( Though I have never had this problem...) I request that they pay for shipping and a refund to take it back.

The Comment " Jesus Christ " does not offend me, but I know for a fact that it can offend many others. If you can say it without realizing it you will find many people will turn their heads to you, because im sure you probably say it alot. Ive seen your comments on youtube before... im sure thats not the only thing you say.

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Originally Posted by DBD

Yes i agree with you on the the fact people on here should politely provide feedback... Many of which that have replied to this thread just come to it to pick out every little thing that is done wrong, instead of noticing it and advising i should do something differently instead of being obnoxious about it... Im not sure if its the fact that im getting a jumpstart on my collection of ball pythons earlier than they did, or if they just don't like the fact that i want to start a business and im younger than they are... Who knows lol, they should check out some of the kids on youtube that keep their ball pythons on sand and don't even provide heat for them, let alone Quarantine them :)

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Again jumping to immature conclusions. If a member came to the forum with a ball on sand without heat do you think we would correct them or just let it slide thinking we are only here to tell you what you are doing wrong? I know many teenage members here that I can not even tell are young because they do whats right and when are corrected do not act like the forum is ganging up on him or her. You could be 60 and if you acted like you are know, id still be here typing all of this.

People have a right to pick out every little thing you've done wrong, because you have already proved more than once that you should not IMO be breeding snakes. Im sorry, but that is what I think. I myself will never buy from you until you have proved over and over again that you are doing everything 110% right. so yes, maybe one day I might buy from you, when that's a day when I forget the old DBD you.

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Originally Posted by DBD

Did i not make a sincere apology and take the pictures off, plus close the site? Did i not apologize about the comments and promise not to use that language online ever again, and still live up to that promise to this day? I know everyone else on ball pythons dot net forgave me! And the women who sold the het albinos to me said they were het for retic line albino, I DIDNT MAKE UP THE NAME, she told me that, so i thought i would share the name with you guys to see if it existed, obviously not... It turned out to just be the name they called albino ball pythons with a jungle pattern. Nixer, you have been all over my case from the first day i started posting here, and have been trying to dig out every little thing i do wrong or say! What is you problem? If you don't like me, then why do you even bother coming to my threads? Even when i made the sincere apology to everyone i had gotten off to a bad start with, you still had something to point out and say, Remember? heres your exact words "You still have the pics of the boa", then i proved you wrong, and said it was my pet boa rambo, Why didn't you have a response? Do you have one now? You jump to conclusions, like just jumping to say "So your no quarantining them!" i beleive is how it went, why couldn't you just say "You should quarantine your animals from now on to provent any harmful diseases or parasites from spreading to your current collection"... Jeez, and you thought i was the one with the issues...

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To this day? its been what, three weeks?:rolleyes: Not everyone one of bp.net have forgiven you... they just do not express them selves to you. Some of the things you said are not something you could forgive lightly...

I'm not even going to comment on that last statement...

Again... I did not want to get in to this, but you can trust its not only Nixer who's seeing through and forgetting any of this. Im also jumping to the conclusion that im not the only person who has wanted to type what I just posted.

Edit: Just to make something clear... the reason everyone is posting about how you qt is because you keep mentioning how you want to be the " Next big breeder" Be a Ralph Davis... not a Big daddy wholesale...

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

I did not want to jump into this BUT im starting to get a LITTLE annoyed...



No actually, now that you have had them in the same rack even for a short period of time .I would consider that just moving them after exposing them to your other animals.



^^ Comments like that, and your talking about Bill not jumping to conclusions...

Its not the knife you used, its how fast you were doing it! The whole time you were cutting all I could think of is 1. Your not cutting carefully and 2. The way you move the box must have those snakes thinking they are on a roller coaster ride. About not letting these snakes come in contact with your current collection, letting them in the same rack to me is enough to do it. I do not even open my new snake boxes in the same room just because if they look sick/are dead/ or infested with mites ( Mites especially, one member opened up his boa shipment and his whole collection got mites because there were literally thousands of mites in the box and many of them came out) I contact the breeder and ( Though I have never had this problem...) I request that they pay for shipping and a refund to take it back.

The Comment " Jesus Christ " does not offend me, but I know for a fact that it can offend many others. If you can say it without realizing it you will find many people will turn their heads to you, because im sure you probably say it alot. Ive seen your comments on youtube before... im sure thats not the only thing you say.



Again jumping to immature conclusions. If a member came to the forum with a ball on sand without heat do you think we would correct them or just let it slide thinking we are only here to tell you what you are doing wrong? I know many teenage members here that I can not even tell are young because they do whats right and when are corrected do not act like the forum is ganging up on him or her. You could be 60 and if you acted like you are know, id still be here typing all of this.

People have a right to pick out every little thing you've done wrong, because you have already proved more than once that you should not IMO be breeding snakes. Im sorry, but that is what I think. I myself will never buy from you until you have proved over and over again that you are doing everything 110% right. so yes, maybe one day I might buy from you, when that's a day when I forget the old DBD you.




To this day? its been what, three weeks?:rolleyes: Not everyone one of bp.net have forgiven you... they just do not express them selves to you. Some of the things you said are not something you could forgive lightly...

I'm not even going to comment on that last statement...

Again... I did not want to get in to this, but you can trust its not only Nixer who's seeing through and forgetting any of this. Im also jumping to the conclusion that im not the only person who has wanted to type what I just posted.

Edit: Just to make something clear... the reason everyone is posting about how you qt is because you keep mentioning how you want to be the " Next big breeder" Be a Ralph Davis... not a Big daddy wholesale...

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nice!i agree 100%:salute:

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

I did not want to jump into this BUT im starting to get a LITTLE annoyed...



No actually, now that you have had them in the same rack even for a short period of time .I would consider that just moving them after exposing them to your other animals.



^^ Comments like that, and your talking about Bill not jumping to conclusions...

Its not the knife you used, its how fast you were doing it! The whole time you were cutting all I could think of is 1. Your not cutting carefully and 2. The way you move the box must have those snakes thinking they are on a roller coaster ride. About not letting these snakes come in contact with your current collection, letting them in the same rack to me is enough to do it. I do not even open my new snake boxes in the same room just because if they look sick/are dead/ or infested with mites ( Mites especially, one member opened up his boa shipment and his whole collection got mites because there were literally thousands of mites in the box and many of them came out) I contact the breeder and ( Though I have never had this problem...) I request that they pay for shipping and a refund to take it back.

The Comment " Jesus Christ " does not offend me, but I know for a fact that it can offend many others. If you can say it without realizing it you will find many people will turn their heads to you, because im sure you probably say it alot. Ive seen your comments on youtube before... im sure thats not the only thing you say.



Again jumping to immature conclusions. If a member came to the forum with a ball on sand without heat do you think we would correct them or just let it slide thinking we are only here to tell you what you are doing wrong? I know many teenage members here that I can not even tell are young because they do whats right and when are corrected do not act like the forum is ganging up on him or her. You could be 60 and if you acted like you are know, id still be here typing all of this.

People have a right to pick out every little thing you've done wrong, because you have already proved more than once that you should not IMO be breeding snakes. Im sorry, but that is what I think. I myself will never buy from you until you have proved over and over again that you are doing everything 110% right. so yes, maybe one day I might buy from you, when that's a day when I forget the old DBD you.




To this day? its been what, three weeks?:rolleyes: Not everyone one of bp.net have forgiven you... they just do not express them selves to you. Some of the things you said are not something you could forgive lightly...

I'm not even going to comment on that last statement...

Again... I did not want to get in to this, but you can trust its not only Nixer who's seeing through and forgetting any of this. Im also jumping to the conclusion that im not the only person who has wanted to type what I just posted.

Edit: Just to make something clear... the reason everyone is posting about how you qt is because you keep mentioning how you want to be the " Next big breeder" Be a Ralph Davis... not a Big daddy wholesale...

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Amen to that. The people on this forum are passionate about these animals, and they've proven it time and time again by responding to you.

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nice!i agree 100%:salute:

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Amen to that. The people on this forum are passionate about these animals, and they've proven it time and time again by responding to you.

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Thank you for backing me up:salute:

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Again... I did not want to get in to this, but you can trust its not only Nixer who's seeing through and forgetting any of this. Im also jumping to the conclusion that im not the only person who has wanted to type what I just posted.

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That should read NOT forgetting any of this BTW

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I did not want to jump into this BUT im starting to get a LITTLE annoyed...



No actually, now that you have had them in the same rack even for a short period of time .I would consider that just moving them after exposing them to your other animals.



^^ Comments like that, and your talking about Bill not jumping to conclusions...

Its not the knife you used, its how fast you were doing it! The whole time you were cutting all I could think of is 1. Your not cutting carefully and 2. The way you move the box must have those snakes thinking they are on a roller coaster ride. About not letting these snakes come in contact with your current collection, letting them in the same rack to me is enough to do it. I do not even open my new snake boxes in the same room just because if they look sick/are dead/ or infested with mites ( Mites especially, one member opened up his boa shipment and his whole collection got mites because there were literally thousands of mites in the box and many of them came out) I contact the breeder and ( Though I have never had this problem...) I request that they pay for shipping and a refund to take it back.

The Comment " Jesus Christ " does not offend me, but I know for a fact that it can offend many others. If you can say it without realizing it you will find many people will turn their heads to you, because im sure you probably say it alot. Ive seen your comments on youtube before... im sure thats not the only thing you say.



Again jumping to immature conclusions. If a member came to the forum with a ball on sand without heat do you think we would correct them or just let it slide thinking we are only here to tell you what you are doing wrong? I know many teenage members here that I can not even tell are young because they do whats right and when are corrected do not act like the forum is ganging up on him or her. You could be 60 and if you acted like you are know, id still be here typing all of this.

People have a right to pick out every little thing you've done wrong, because you have already proved more than once that you should not IMO be breeding snakes. Im sorry, but that is what I think. I myself will never buy from you until you have proved over and over again that you are doing everything 110% right. so yes, maybe one day I might buy from you, when that's a day when I forget the old DBD you.




To this day? its been what, three weeks?:rolleyes: Not everyone one of bp.net have forgiven you... they just do not express them selves to you. Some of the things you said are not something you could forgive lightly...

I'm not even going to comment on that last statement...

Again... I did not want to get in to this, but you can trust its not only Nixer who's seeing through and forgetting any of this. Im also jumping to the conclusion that im not the only person who has wanted to type what I just posted.

Edit: Just to make something clear... the reason everyone is posting about how you qt is because you keep mentioning how you want to be the " Next big breeder" Be a Ralph Davis... not a Big daddy wholesale...

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Listen man, i read all of what you had to say, and will not be offended or be hurt by it but grow from it. I wasn't even going to post this reply, but just thought you should know. I respect you, and everyone else here on ball-pythons dot net, and take all your advice into what im doing to improve, i want to grow in this reptile community as reptiles were my hobby since i was 5 years old, Btw i am quarantining my animals and doing everything they require, if you don't beleive me, please feel free to test me in a pm.. But anyways, i respect everyone that has been on here before me and will respect everyone that will come after me, and will also just want to learn from all of you. I try not to have any problems with anybody anymore as i have learned it will only make worse problems for you in the future. You can agree to that right? So i hope this will end all of these arguments, and we can just be friends, & if there is anything that i should change, do better, please let me know, and i will do so...

lighten up on the kid guys,he will learn how to do what he needs to do.you learn from mistakes.

i guess were not going to address the things i posted again

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Excuse Me? By BOTH of your collections, you don't mean mine right? B/c if you do then you are BADLY MISTAKEN! I have NEVER & repeat NEVER lost an animal in my collection. So I have no clue what you are talking about, that is, if BOTH includes ME. Btw, by the caps, im not trying to make those words seem aggressive, im just trying to highlight them...

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Im not trying to fuel the fire, but QT is pretty important. You know how when you go on an airplane and everyone is sick and nasty, and then you get the cold. its the same idea. I always get some sort of cold after I am on a plane, and its a different type of cold each time. So when a snake comes from one area to another, the snake you bought might not look like it has an illness, and it may not, it still could pass something on to your other animals. Qt should last for about 90 days. You are pretty lucky if nothing happens to your collection.

OK guys - like Greg suggested - lighten up. What's done is done. We've ALL made mistakes along the way. Instead of kicking him when he's down - why not extend your hand in helping him?

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Im not trying to fuel the fire, but QT is pretty important. You know how when you go on an airplane and everyone is sick and nasty, and then you get the cold. its the same idea. I always get some sort of cold after I am on a plane, and its a different type of cold each time. So when a snake comes from one area to another, the snake you bought might not look like it has an illness, and it may not, it still could pass something on to your other animals. Qt should last for about 90 days. You are pretty lucky if nothing happens to your collection.

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Whats up Quinton,
Um im not sure if you read any of my other replies, but i am quarantining, but thanks for the warning. Since i accidently introduced the new snakes to my current collection, my dad is going to be taking all of the snakes to the vet on tuesday (the day he is off) to get them all checked up on :) And make sure they don't have any illnesses, which im sure they don't have, but i also checked them myself for mites, respiratory infection, scale rot, etc... And have been spraying all of them down with jurassi mite 3 times a week (Monday, Wednesday, & Friday) to help provent mites. Im about 95% sure all of them are in VERY good health, but we are taking them to the vet to be sure :)
Thanks,
Brandon

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Whats up Quinton,
Um im not sure if you read any of my other replies, but i am quarantining, but thanks for the warning. Since i accidently introduced the new snakes to my current collection, my dad is going to be taking all of the snakes to the vet on tuesday (the day he is off) to get them all checked up on :) And make sure they don't have any illnesses, which im sure they don't have, but i also checked them myself for mites, respiratory infection, scale rot, etc... And have been spraying all of them down with jurassi mite 3 times a week (Monday, Wednesday, & Friday) to help provent mites. Im about 95% sure all of them are in VERY good health, but we are taking them to the vet to be sure :)
Thanks,
Brandon

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To make sure they do not have any parasites you going to need a poo sample from them all. Its good to get them check up on for all the other things but I would save a few of their turds.

dont pm me! if you have something to say it better start with adressing what i said earlier which you have seemingly overlooked!

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To make sure they do not have any parasites you going to need a poo sample from them all. Its good to get them check up on for all the other things but I would save a few of their turds.

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Yep, when we planned the appointment with my vet, they told us exactly that, and to bring them in when we get them...

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dont pm me! if you have something to say it better start with adressing what i said earlier which you have seemingly overlooked!

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And what was that?