getting first ball

trying to convince my mom to let me get ball any ideas to convince her?

haha...I was never able to convince mine...had to wait until I got to college to finally get one. Now she kind of thinks they're cute, and likes watching them eat live mice. Maybe convince her they are cute animals. Oh and they're utterly harmless and aren't going to eat the family cat. And they won't escape and show up in her bed in the middle of the night.

heres what i did.. i did a bunch of stuff around the house and asked her.. she said no so i kept doing more and more chores and asking her and she finally caved..

Tell her they are easy to take care of. Feed them once a week and clean out the cage on poop day. And they make great pets. Unless you get an aggressive one like my male yellowbelly. But all my other balls are great.
How old are you by the way? Can you afford to take care of this snake like its supposed to be cared for? it can get expensive.

im 16 and yes i can take care of it. i have a decent job for my age and area. i pay 4 my own phone, martial arts classes, dog, and 2 leopard geckos so yea im pretty much set with that and in the very rare cases i do need some extra money i do odd jobs around my neighborhood

This is a time proven method:

1) Finish school
2) Get job
3) Obtain own apartment
4) Buy Ball Python
5) Call Mom on the way home from the breeder to ask her permision
6) Laugh like the freakin' Joker when she still says no

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Originally Posted by Slim

This is a time proven method:

1) Finish school
2) Get job
3) Obtain own apartment
4) Buy Ball Python
5) Call Mom on the way home from the breeder to ask her permision
6) Laugh like the freakin' Joker when she still says no

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lol nice

merits of owning a snake:
1) clean
2) quiet
3) easy to feed
4) easy to clean housing
5) dogs, mice, rats, cats, ferrets, birds, and just about all pets except fish are more capable of doing harm if they get pissy than a ball python.

I'm sure we can come up with more good merits of snake keeping to help convince the snake-o-phobe mom.. just a few off the top of my head.

Do your reserch make sure you are ready to own a Bp. Remeber knowledge is power. Maybe she will see how you really want one and that you have do research on them. Thier are some videos on youtube that might help out. I know that snakebytes.tv has show about keeping pets(make sure you show her the pet one some of the other might scare her lol). The next step would be to pray and beg lol.

First off you need to know the rules.
1. If you live in an apartment, condo, or any other type on home that is connected to other homes you need to see what the rules concerning reptiles and snakes are. (You mother may be saying no do too these rules.)
2. If you live in a housing development you need to find out if and what the rules are for the home owners association.
3. If you live in a city or township you need to find out the rules about it for the city or township.
4. Now you made it to county laws same process.
5. Finally state laws come in. I seem to remember someone saying Jersey required a permit for having a ball python.

(All the above info will really impress your mom if you have it, it may also help explain why your mom is really saying no.)

6. Now find out about enclosures and setting them up. Collect all the info including price. A quality enclosure can go a long way in easing your moms mind when concerning escape.

7. Find out feeding options. Some parents may be appreciative of the frozen thawed type of feeding since you will not have to bring live rodents into the house, others may not like it as that means their freezer will hold frozen rats as well, but that can be solved by getting a dorm frig with the little freezer on top to house your Ball pythons food.

8. Make sure you can afford all of this on your own and do it all on your own. Parents normally say no to any pet due to cost or work they will have to put out. Even weekly trips to pick up food can get old quickly.

9. Collect all the facts you can find on ball pythons and why they are good pets and facts on why your parents don't have to worry about injury to you or any other member of the family including pets.

10. Now present your case to your parents. Make sure you stay calm and do not get overly emotional or defensive. If the answer in the end is still no, stay calm and ask what it would take in addition to the info presented to convince them that a ball python would be a good pet for you. Then do it if at all possible.

You never know through all the research you may find a ball python is not what you want. In the end if you still want to own a ball python you will have the knowledge to make you a better keeper.

Be ready though as your parents may just have a phobia of snakes and nothing you can do or say will change this. Being considerate of their position can go a long way in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Slim

This is a time proven method:

1) Finish school
2) Get job
3) Obtain own apartment
4) Buy Ball Python
5) Call Mom on the way home from the breeder to ask her permision
6) Laugh like the freakin' Joker when she still says no

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This is exactly what I did ~ LOL

As far as i can tell from internet and the one person i know in jersey that has a ball you dont need a permit i went to fish and game and also did a general web search for the law in my area cant find anything. if anyone knows please let me know

woot woot went up the scale. from no to thinking about it.

-New pet scale-
Yes
Why?
later
(thinking about it)
no

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Originally Posted by goldenfoxs

As far as i can tell from internet and the one person i know in jersey that has a ball you dont need a permit i went to fish and game and also did a general web search for the law in my area cant find anything. if anyone knows please let me know

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Look here for New Jersey. http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/exotic_apps.htm

Might pay attention to what is classified as exotic in section 7:25-4.3.

(a) Exotic species and nongame species requiring a permit
for possession include, but are not limited to the following:

3. Reptiles:
i. Pythons - Family Pythonidae;
ii. Rat Snakes - Elaphe spp.;
iii. Boas - Family Boidae (other than Boa Constrictors)
iv. King Snakes - Lampropeltis spp.;
v. Racer - Colluder spp;
vi. Ringneck Snakes - Diadophis punctatus;
vii. Green Snakes - Opheodrys spp;
viii. Collared Lizard - Crotaphytus collaris;
ix. Monitor - Varanus spp.;
x. Skinks - Family Scincidae;
xi. Ameiva - Ameiva spp;
xii. Chuckwalla - Sauromalus obesus;
xiii. Alligator Lizard - Gerrhonotus spp.;
xiv. Geckos - Family Gekkonidae other than Tokay Gecko;
xv. Armadillo Lizard - Cordylus cataphractus

(b) The Department may issue a permit for the possession of
the above exotic mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians, or
nongame species provided the applicant has satisfactorily met the
criteria contained within N.J.A.C. 7:25-4.7.

Here is where you can get the application: http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/exotic_apps.htm

damn something more for me to do

than i guess the pet stores around my place are doing the illegal business because from what i can tell they dont check for a permit

Local pet shops should fill out the application for you if you buy something that needs a license/permit. Sometimes they mail it for you also. You then get paperwork from the state.

The big box pet stores will give you an info sheet with a phone number to call for info.

FYI, almost no one gets a permit. I had a permit years ago for a parrot and I paid the fee every year. I stopped paying the fee when the bird was gone. No one ever followed up to find out why. I had permits for the snakes also.

You should get the permit and pay the fee, just like I did and do. The money goes toward conservation programs. :salute:

JohnNJ

yea i will but im getting the snake first and ill get the permit after january 1st.
I think i also need a permit for my leopard geckos. so yeah thanks guys.

oh and how should i introduce it to its new home?
just put it in and leave it?