Same bp?

We purchased a pastel from barc reptiles are these pics of the same ball?



This is the pic they had of the pastel ball on their site

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...pastel_pic.jpg


This is the pastel ball we received

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...pastel_rec.jpg

Hi,

First impressions?

No that is not the same snake.

But to be certain you would need to look for identifying marks on the top pic then take pictures of your animal at the same body position/ pose to compare like with like.

Did they specifically say you would recieve the same animal that was pictured? It is not uncommon for people to put up pictures "representitive of the morph" rather than take photo's of a large number of pastels say.

Is your snake in shed at the moment?


dr del

That most definitely does not look like the same snake.
In fact, I'd be willing to put money on it.
Just by comparing small markings on the first snake and the second, they look nothing alike. Even the size seems way off.
I agree with Dr Del, did they specifically mention you'd be getting the same snake as pictured?

Not the same snake, and the one you received does not look pastel to me, and even the pastel pictured looks really unhealthy, but that could just be a bad photo. As far as I am concerned, it doesnt matter if the they said they were or were not sending the snake pictured, it is assumed that if you are interested in buying a pastel, they are not going to send you a normal. I would get back in contact with the breeder, but honestly I smell a scam. Good luck and hope everything works out, but if it doesnt, let the community know so we can keep it from happening again.

Edit: I noticed the blue eyes, but I really doubt it would mask the pastel coloring totally. I still smell fish.

Nope. Not the same snake. Look at the striping on the neck. The first one has a decent stripe going on. The second one barley even has a marking there.

They are both Pastels. The second one looks like its in shed right now.

I also agree with Dr Del's question.

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Originally Posted by ThyTempest

Not the same snake, and the one you received does not look pastel to me, and even the pastel pictured looks really unhealthy, but that could just be a bad photo. As far as I am concerned, it doesnt matter if the they said they were or were not sending the snake pictured, it is assumed that if you are interested in buying a pastel, they are not going to send you a normal. I would get back in contact with the breeder, but honestly I smell a scam. Good luck and hope everything works out, but if it doesnt, let the community know so we can keep it from happening again.

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I agree. It does look like a normal and the original pastel looks slightly odd.

Although I'm hoping you keep the snake and give it a home, I would definitely get back in contact with the breeder and if it turns into a messy situation, warn the community about it.

nope.. not the same snake

no its not look at the neck marks. on the baby it has a stripe coming from the back of the head on the other its two seperate spots. Also make sure that that pic wasnt a general pic for their pastels. Now if it was settled that that pic is the one you paid for i would contact them.

Those are definitely 2 different snakes. They are both pastels, the first pic is of a baby and the second is of one that has already begun to brown out.
Not the same animals but both pastels nonetheless.
-Steven

No way they are the same snake. Like every one said, the neck markings are way off, and so are many of the smaller markings on the body.

not even close, and isnt the one u recieved a lot bigger than the one in the pic ?

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../2/descrip.jpg

I guess I will be calling him up 2morrow, I / we will be keeping the ball, but I really hate it when people think they can pull stuff like this, I will kindly let him know that also

Thanks everyone, we'll see what he has to say when I call him 2morrow

Yeah, she is supposed to be 7 weeks old

Pardon my ignorance here but how big is a 7 week old ball supposed to be? The one I received is at least 16 inches

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../2/descrip.jpg

you still can't really see that last picture you posted. Don't call the person, try to contact them via e-mail so everything is there so you can prove yourself when people ask if you decide to put a post on the BOI or on the feedback part on here.

I'm sorry , the last pic is of his description which stated:

I have an exceptional female pastel baby ball python. I hatched her out myself 7 weeks ago. She is feeding on rat crawlers. She comes with a 30 day health guarantee. I am asking 225 plus shipping for her. Pics are of the actual snake. for more pics and information call 941-237-8244 or visit us at www.barcreptile.com

Definitely not the same snake, so there is grounds for a refund right there. As for size, the prey size sounds about right, and the length of 16ish inches is fine....my guess is you got a clutchmate...

I still dont see the second pic as being a pastel at all, especially if it still is obviously a baby. It should not brown out that quickly.

the second one is a pastel.if you look at the eyes you can tell its in deep shed so it will be darker than normal.i say if its a female you got it cheap for being that size.

Hi,

Well remember to be polite when enquiring as I suspect it may in fact be an honest mistake this time.

If you go look at their pastels for sale page.

The one they sent you the pictures of seems to be the first one on the page with the item code "barc2008/1" which is marked as sold.

Link to animals picture on barcreptile site.

It might not be but the markings do look quite similar - the picture was obviously a hatchling picture but that is fairly standard practice.

Where as the snake you actually have seems to be the third one down with item code "2008/4" and is still listed as being for sale - it is also listed as female you will be glad to hear. :)

Link to animals picture on barcreptile site.

Hopefully you get everything resolved ok - and I look forward to seeing pics of your gal once she has shed. :)


dr del

dang dr. del... good eye!

My normal has light eyes. The marking don't look the same by far. Let us know how it turns out.

That is NOT the same snake.

Look at the pattern by the head in the first picture. Its connected for a good inch, inch and a half.

The second pic has no connected pattern.....NOT THE SAME SNAKE!