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Het Red Axanthic or ...

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  • 12-18-2008, 01:05 PM
    ogredawg19
    Het Red Axanthic or ...
    I'll let you guys decide...What do you think? She's an adult and weighs 1900+g She's gonna be proven out hopefully next season if my 08 male het red (corey woods line) is ready to breed.

    Next to a normal female...
    http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...9/IMG_4396.jpg

    http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...9/IMG_4397.jpg

    http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...9/IMG_4402.jpg

    http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...9/IMG_4412.jpg

    http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...9/IMG_4399.jpg
  • 12-18-2008, 01:32 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Well... Doesn't really look like it to me, but that is one of the morphs I am still trying to be able to perfect in identifying.
  • 12-18-2008, 01:44 PM
    broadude
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    She looks like a Het Red to me. :)

    I have a couple, one is more red than the other along the dorsal (the blushing has a reddish tinge). They can be difficult to photograph and show the true differences from Normals, but they definitely do look different in person.
  • 12-18-2008, 02:13 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    She looks like it to me, but I do not own any to compare her too. I am just basing my opinion on ones that I have seen online.
  • 12-18-2008, 02:33 PM
    Nagini88
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    looks normal to me. check out NWE's morph guide, it should have squiggles in the 'alien head' pattern
    http://www.nextworldexotics.com/hghra.htm yours has the blushing but doesnt have the squiggles
  • 12-18-2008, 02:45 PM
    broadude
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    I have one that also doesn't have the "squiggles" and it is a Corey Woods animal purchased from Ozzyboids, so from my experience it's not always a die hard rule that the squiggles must be present.

    It's good to have them, but if you know the genetics then the absence of them doesn't prove that they aren't Het Reds (this is only my opinion).
  • 12-18-2008, 02:53 PM
    Nagini88
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    hmm b/c I have a really bright red blusher but didnt think it was because it had no squiggles
  • 12-18-2008, 03:04 PM
    broadude
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nagini88 View Post
    hmm b/c I have a really bright red blusher but didnt think it was because it had no squiggles

    If it was sold as Normal, it's normal. Mine was sold as a Het Red, so that's what it is. I'll prove her out next year. btw: The male looks more so like a Het Red (with squiggles) than she does. :)
  • 12-18-2008, 03:08 PM
    Nagini88
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    I dont know what it was sold as, she was dropped off with me from someone who couldnt keep her anymore
  • 12-18-2008, 03:10 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by broadude View Post
    If it was sold as Normal, it's normal. Mine was sold as a Het Red, so that's what it is. I'll prove her out next year. btw: The male looks more so like a Het Red (with squiggles) than she does. :)

    Well, I got a "normal" that turned out to be a Het Red, so... yeah.

    Not always :)
  • 12-18-2008, 05:58 PM
    ogredawg19
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Thanks for the replies everyone! That's the only reason why I'm doubting her, she doesn't have "squiggles" which was kind of confusing at first. But few people said the same thing broadude said. One of his female het red breeder doesn't have the squiggle also.

    But anyway, do you guys think I should try and prove her out now with a male that is ready to breed right now, or wait till my 08 het red male becomes ready? What do you guys think?

    Thanks again for the inputs.
  • 12-18-2008, 06:00 PM
    ogredawg19
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nagini88 View Post
    hmm b/c I have a really bright red blusher but didnt think it was because it had no squiggles


    Do you have a pic of this snake? Just so I can compare them. By the way you're a neighbor, I live not too far from Vacaville :)
  • 12-18-2008, 06:36 PM
    Nagini88
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    lol thats awsome XD she's breeding with my pastel hopefully soon so if I get babies that look like her I'll let you know. here's her pics(warning my camera sucks she's red blush in person:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1/S6302010.jpg
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1/S6302012.jpg
  • 12-18-2008, 10:14 PM
    Harold
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Ogredawg19 she looks like a Het Red to me.
    I work with the Wood's Line Het. Reds.
  • 12-18-2008, 10:42 PM
    briz
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Here's a pic of my adult female(Wood's line) for comparison.

    http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/IMG_1410.jpg
  • 12-19-2008, 06:35 PM
    ogredawg19
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Hey Briz, my male het red looks just like her. Pretty snake.

    Here are some more pics of "Scarlet" my Possible Het Red Female haha...

    http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...9/IMG_4436.jpg

    http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...9/IMG_4438.jpg

    http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...9/IMG_4440.jpg

    Whether she proves out to be a het red or normal, I think she's really pretty and I really like her. Great disposition and ate two frozen small rats last night :)
  • 12-20-2008, 12:53 AM
    briz
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Nice, she is worth working with. Even if she isn't a het. red hopefully she will at least throw black backs for you. Keep us posted.
  • 12-21-2008, 12:58 PM
    JimmyBalls
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    I've got 1.1 Het Reds and you would swear the one is a normal and the other has about as much visible red that yours does...again photos don't do them any justice.
  • 12-21-2008, 01:30 PM
    broadude
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JimmyBalls View Post
    I've got 1.1 Het Reds and you would swear the one is a normal and the other has about as much visible red that yours does...again photos don't do them any justice.

    Right!! I even had pics of my 1.1 up and quite a few people were pegging her as a Normal!


    Pictures don't do them justice...but his surely looks like a Het Red to me. It's unusual to find that much red in a Normal. IMO, Normals gravitate towards brown and tan tones.
  • 12-21-2008, 01:39 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Dont forget everyone that het reds that come from het reds, look more like normals than het reds from reds.
  • 12-21-2008, 04:33 PM
    aahmn
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    How about some belly shots of proven het reds? I'd like to compare with a couple females I have...
  • 12-21-2008, 07:27 PM
    JimmyBalls
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    Dont forget everyone that het reds that come from het reds, look more like normals than het reds from reds.

    wow say that 3 times fast :O
  • 12-21-2008, 10:09 PM
    ogredawg19
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JimmyBalls View Post
    wow say that 3 times fast :O

    haha, I had to read it out loud 3 times. But it does makes sense, I just had to reread it haha.
  • 12-21-2008, 10:12 PM
    ogredawg19
    Re: Het Red Axanthic or ...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aahmn View Post
    How about some belly shots of proven het reds? I'd like to compare with a couple females I have...

    Both the corey line male and unproven female have the same clear belly. But I don't think that matters for this particular morph. I believe Hunter's guide says belly looks normal but just a bit brighter.
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