Which two

wich pair should i get ?

Depends on what you want to make! Do you want axanthics or do you want bumble bees, pastels and spiders?

It's all about what you like and what is going to make you happy! Me personally I go for the co-doms more often than not just because at this point I don't have the patience to raise up a pair of hets and wait for the babies lol. Plus I'm a major sucker for spiders of any kind :).

thats why im asking you guys because they make awsome morphs and i cant choose but im leaning towards the spider and pastel because axanthics brown out but so do pastels:oops:

EDIT: the het pair is 50 dollars less

Yes- and no. Depends on the axanthic and it depends on the pastel :)

Pastel axanthics are amazing (to my eyes)! I guess if you want to do something with axanthics then get them first since you'll need to raise them up and they are recessive.

If you don't want to necessarily wait, then go for the immediate eye candy that bees and spiders and pastels give you.

It really just comes down to what do you like and where do you want to go with your snakes!! Trust yourself and choose :)

I'm biased I already have a pastel male and now buying a female spider. I love bumble bees I think they're one of the most beautiful morphs.

Personally I would pick the nicest spider and the nicest pastel I could find. Then maybe in a few years you could trade for a visual axanthic.

I would go for the spider and pastel. Are the het's documented from a well known breeder?

Spider and pastel, so many possibilities super pastels bumblebees then later you can trade for for whatever else you want.

buy a visual axanthic, spider and pastel. that way you could make some axanthic spiders, and bees. and eventually a axanthic killer bee :O lol. You always have to have a bit of patience especially when dealing with herps. lol.But you should get what you want. All I have to say is get your hets from ppl you can trust like Adam from 8 ball or BhB reptiles. I hear Brian is great to deal with. Or you could go with the one and only Ralph Davis. All are known and respected and would be safe bets.

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Originally Posted by sg1trogdor

buy a visual axanthic, spider and pastel. that way you could make some axanthic spiders, and bees. and eventually a axanthic killer bee :O lol. You always have to have a bit of patience especially when dealing with herps. lol.But you should get what you want. All I have to say is get your hets from ppl you can trust like Adam from 8 ball or BhB reptiles. I hear Brian is great to deal with. Or you could go with the one and only Ralph Davis. All are known and respected and would be safe bets.

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I will agree to buying from Adam at 8ball pythons! I have my pastel from him and just order my spider from him aswell and he is a great person to deal with. BHB and Ralph Davis are top names I haven't done any business with either of them you can't do wrong with them.

I would definitely go with spider and pastel. If you breed them together you should produce bumblebees, spiders, pastels, and normals. That is much better, in my opinion, than possibly producing an axanthic and a bunch of possible hets.