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  • 11-16-2008, 10:01 PM
    SvicksTC
    Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    Hey I was just soaking my ball python mitch to help him with his shed that he is about to have, he had the blue eyes now they are back to normal so i should expect a shed anyday right?

    But....After i soaked him for a little bit i picked him up and notice he started wheezing...I was like oh great problem after problem first the mites now this?

    So crazy worried i put him back in the enclosure and just checked on him and now he is not wheezing?

    I know some balls can sometimes make a wheezing noise before they shed and others say that is not true?

    He wheezed for about a couple mins now i havent notice him do it once since the soak?
  • 11-16-2008, 10:05 PM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    his wheezing is most likely the water he was being soaked in getting into his air way and him exhaling water with air if you notice it again i would contact a good herp vet.
  • 11-16-2008, 10:09 PM
    SvicksTC
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by royal morphz View Post
    his wheezing is most likely the water he was being soaked in getting into his air way and him exhaling water with air if you notice it again i would contact a good herp vet.

    I was just thinking that and was going to edit my post.....Ill def be keeping an eye on him..

    If it is possible the start of RI do they wheeze constantly or do they have periods of wheezing then stopping then wheezing, etc?
  • 11-16-2008, 10:10 PM
    dr del
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    Hi,

    Couple of points to cover. :)

    Yes sometimes when they are shedding they can wheeze and make some odd noises - they are also more likely to do this when breathing heavily, from agitation or excitement at being handled or from being in strange positions that change the way they breathe.

    Secondly - don't soak your snake before his shed. It can actually make his shed worse not help as you intended.

    Just get his humidity in the tank up to the right level and let him shed on his own - the soaks are for if he doesn't manage to shed well on his own and still has patches left on him after a day or so in a suitably humid enclosure. :)


    dr del
  • 11-16-2008, 10:13 PM
    SvicksTC
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    alright thanks, ive read somewhere that people soak there ball for a little bit to help aid the process of shedding....so being new at this i took that advice *shy*
  • 11-16-2008, 10:29 PM
    filly77
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    they are also more likely to do this when breathing heavily, from agitation or excitement at being handled or from being in strange positions that change the way they breathe


    dr del

    completely agree.. i've had it happen. if they tense up and hold their breathfor a little bit, they sometimes create a noise when they finally exhale.

    i was holding my het hypo male last night and because he's still not too sure of being handled yet.. he was very tense and ridged, holding his breath a few times. and when he would exhale, it was i guess you could call it forceful/fast, causing tiny whistle, like a nose hair whistle (not that ive ever had one to know:oops: LOL). i wouldnt have heard it had i not had him around my neck with his face near my ear. once he relaxed it was no longer there.

    but if you're worried, a check up at a good herp vet never hurts.
  • 11-16-2008, 10:35 PM
    hawaiianice99
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    why are you soaking your snake? shedding is already a hard enough task for them. Just get the humidity and temps right, and when they are looking like they are gonna shed just leave them be and make sure they have enough surfaces to rub the shed off on.
  • 11-16-2008, 10:41 PM
    SvicksTC
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    How long after their eyes clear up do they usually shed?
  • 11-16-2008, 10:54 PM
    hawaiianice99
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    it shouldnt take more than a few days after you notice the eyes are blue-ing, you will know its really soon once the skin turns into a ghost look. also if the humidity levels are right, it will most likely happen before you know it.

    ***but remember just to leave them be, and check the humidity and temps.
  • 11-16-2008, 10:57 PM
    SvicksTC
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    well his eyes blued up thursday night come friday they where pretty blue, now they are clear and normal looking...So expect a shed soon?
  • 11-16-2008, 11:01 PM
    dr del
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    Hi,

    Normally a couple of days - the time changes as they get older though and sometimes even from snake to snake.

    One of my girls takes forever to shed from first signs to the actual disrobing. :rolleyes:

    But younger snakes are normally known for shedding in a nice short cycle and , since they are growing faster, more often too. Don't panic if the shed isn't perfect as the mites etc and the stress of new homes can all affect the shed - as long as it all comes off I never pay that much mind to how many pieces it is in. :gj:

    When you have the shed skin in front of you it is a good habit to check to make sure the eyecaps came off ok and that the tip of the tail also came off. Oh and make sure there are no stuck bits that encircle the whole body if you can. Be warned they also tend to poop and Pee when they shed so you will probably need new newspaper and a clothespeg. :giggle:


    dr del
  • 11-16-2008, 11:02 PM
    hawaiianice99
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    yes soon, this seems like its taking awhile to shed. did the eyes clear up after you soaked it? mine stay blue until the shed.
  • 11-16-2008, 11:17 PM
    SvicksTC
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    the eyes were still a slight haze before i soaked but def not blue anymore just cloudy...now they are pretty much normal.. It does seem long to me or im just being over paranoid about everything right now....
  • 11-16-2008, 11:20 PM
    hawaiianice99
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    dont worry, as long as its habitat is set at the correct conditions it will eventually happen. every now and then mine take awhile but right after feeding they usually shed a day later.
  • 11-16-2008, 11:33 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    anywhere from 1-5 days after clearing up from blue-ing is when I expect a shed to occur.

    My corn snake would often shed the night after the first day spent in blue. My 4 month old BP's first shed(and only so far) since I got her happened 2 days after she cleared up from going blue.
  • 11-16-2008, 11:34 PM
    SvicksTC
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    Thanks for all the comments, I love this community and only hope to grow and expan my knowledge and love for herps....
  • 11-16-2008, 11:40 PM
    hawaiianice99
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    no problem, theres no knowledge like mo-knowledge.:)
  • 11-17-2008, 07:55 PM
    SvicksTC
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    His eys have been clear for a couple days now and still no shed. I tried feeding him on his regular day today and he struck but didnt eat....

    how long after the eyes clear up should i be worried if i dont see a shed?
  • 11-17-2008, 08:17 PM
    starmom
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    You don't worry. You control the humidity and the snake controls the shed ;)
  • 11-17-2008, 09:04 PM
    hawaiianice99
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starmom View Post
    You don't worry. You control the humidity and the snake controls the shed ;)

    nicely said. like we said, dont worry, just make sure your humidity and temps are ok and leave the snake to do its biz.
  • 11-17-2008, 09:30 PM
    SvicksTC
    Re: Soaked My Ball Wheezed then Stopped?
    Im tryign to keep the humidity as close to 70% as i can but the snake seems dehydrated because it is quite wrinkly, so it looks like im goign to have a bad shed...

    im constitantly checking on it and misting the enclosure
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