Just a couple of cool photos of a neat morph!

As things tend to go around here...there's so much to do and such limited time to do it all! I was taking photos of some babies today and this little guy caught my eye. He was begging to be photographed so I went ahead and snapped a couple of pictures of him...

He's a Cinnamon Enchi that we produced this year :)

Thanks,
Celia

http://www.exoticsbynature.com/ksf/cinnenchi1.jpg

http://www.exoticsbynature.com/ksf/cinnenchi2.jpg

That little dude is sweet!!! congrats great lookin snake

Oh my! That is amazingly beautiful! That enchi gene really make things pop!

Nice to see you Celia! He's a sweet looking little guy - another project to add to the project list! :D

He is a wicked lil guy! :snake:Congrats!!!!:snake:

Thanks for sharing, beautiful snake. I am very curious to see how the belly colors mature.
I saw a pic of one BHB produced and it was kinda different? I wonder how much they can vary?

That is defentlly a sharp looking fella! Thanks for the eye candy! :D

Really nice looking guy :gj:

Ball looks awesome, beautiful color and patterns

didn't tought the enchi would make that kind of pattern mixed with the cinnamon

Cool combo you got there!:) Very nice!

wow, that is a smoking snake! congrats on producing that. Looking forward to what you produce with that.

Enchis make mindblowing crosses :gj:

I think i have to by one verry quick!

Thats a smoker right there!! Man i can't wait for the pastel, enchi, cinny/blk pastel.. That'll be a killer combo!!

Alan

That blushing is to die for! Thanks for sharing! :)

[sing= "To the Pokemon theme song"] Ball pythons, Gotta Breed 'em All!!! [/sing]

Looks awesome, I just wanna throw a little butter into that! mmm mhmmm good.

Thanks for the compliments everyone!

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

Thanks for sharing, beautiful snake. I am very curious to see how the belly colors mature.
I saw a pic of one BHB produced and it was kinda different? I wonder how much they can vary?

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It's funny you should mention BHB's animal because they did produced some and they DID look different. Now here's the interesting part...

Our animal that I posted pictures of was produced from a breeding between our male Enchi and one of our female Pewters. If you look at ours, it looks like a Cinnamon with a bit of Enchi in it.

Brian's animal was produced from a breeding between a male Pewter to a female Enchi. His looks like an Enchi with a bit of Cinnamon in it.

This leads to the bigger question - can the appearance of the offspring vary and be dependent based on what sex each parent is? Meaning - does our animal look more like a Cinnamon with Enchi coloration because mom was a Pewter? And therefore, does Brian's animal look more like an Enchi with Cinnamon influences because he used a female Enchi? If this is true, then does that mean that mom's morph is more dominant than dad's?

So for example, would the Bumblebees from a Spider x Pastel look any different than the Bumblebees from a Pastel x Spider? Brian and John Piro did notice significant differences in the visual appearances of Kingpins based on what each parent was in the breeding.

I don't know if this observation is true for all morphs because I don't think there has been enough detailed notes kept on various breedings to draw a definitive conclusion but it would make for an interesting project!

Celia

SO SICK! i love the red tints. enchis make some awesome combos im thinkin im gonna have to get one :gj:

Very nice, Congrats!

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Originally Posted by wetceal

Thanks for the compliments everyone!



It's funny you should mention BHB's animal because they did produced some and they DID look different. Now here's the interesting part...

Our animal that I posted pictures of was produced from a breeding between our male Enchi and one of our female Pewters. If you look at ours, it looks like a Cinnamon with a bit of Enchi in it.

Brian's animal was produced from a breeding between a male Pewter to a female Enchi. His looks like an Enchi with a bit of Cinnamon in it.

This leads to the bigger question - can the appearance of the offspring vary and be dependent based on what sex each parent is? Meaning - does our animal look more like a Cinnamon with Enchi coloration because mom was a Pewter? And therefore, does Brian's animal look more like an Enchi with Cinnamon influences because he used a female Enchi? If this is true, then does that mean that mom's morph is more dominant than dad's?

So for example, would the Bumblebees from a Spider x Pastel look any different than the Bumblebees from a Pastel x Spider? Brian and John Piro did notice significant differences in the visual appearances of Kingpins based on what each parent was in the breeding.

I don't know if this observation is true for all morphs because I don't think there has been enough detailed notes kept on various breedings to draw a definitive conclusion but it would make for an interesting project!

Celia

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Beautiful pics, as usual Celia!

I am intrigued with your observation about the male/female dominance. What did John and Brian conclude about Kingpins?

sweet snake can't wait to see the super forms

I haven't seen the BHB cinnamon enchi but I don't see much enchi in this snake. Well a little bit.

You hatched way more snake than I did for sure and not the first cinnamon and enchi you hatch so you probably know what you are talking about.

But could that snake be just a really nice awesome cinnamon ? Like one with a lot of blushing and weird pattern ?

Unless the mom or dad was a super enchi, how would you know for sure ?

btw : awesome animal this one is :)

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Originally Posted by wetceal

Thanks for the compliments everyone!



It's funny you should mention BHB's animal because they did produced some and they DID look different. Now here's the interesting part...

Our animal that I posted pictures of was produced from a breeding between our male Enchi and one of our female Pewters. If you look at ours, it looks like a Cinnamon with a bit of Enchi in it.

Brian's animal was produced from a breeding between a male Pewter to a female Enchi. His looks like an Enchi with a bit of Cinnamon in it.

This leads to the bigger question - can the appearance of the offspring vary and be dependent based on what sex each parent is? Meaning - does our animal look more like a Cinnamon with Enchi coloration because mom was a Pewter? And therefore, does Brian's animal look more like an Enchi with Cinnamon influences because he used a female Enchi? If this is true, then does that mean that mom's morph is more dominant than dad's?

So for example, would the Bumblebees from a Spider x Pastel look any different than the Bumblebees from a Pastel x Spider? Brian and John Piro did notice significant differences in the visual appearances of Kingpins based on what each parent was in the breeding.

I don't know if this observation is true for all morphs because I don't think there has been enough detailed notes kept on various breedings to draw a definitive conclusion but it would make for an interesting project!

Celia

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That is a very interesting concept. I assumed there were variations in the concentration of either morph but never figured it would be based on the sex of the parent.

The cinamon gene seems to be a strong genetic trait that can dominate other morphs (like spider for example) but possibly, when the sex of parent is different (female), that control over the other morph is weakened and the Enchi gene dominates the combination.

Brians animal definately looks alot more Enchi which the orange tones from the cinny. Sounds like something that should prove itself out if in fact that is the case.

I have a female Enchi that I was going to pair with a black pastel next season. Hopefully i will be able to add to the theory.

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

Brians animal definately looks alot more Enchi which the orange tones from the cinny. Sounds like something that should prove itself out if in fact that is the case.

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Do you know where I could see a picture of it ?

Beautiful snake I just saw him a few days ago in person its stuning though Celia takes some of the best photos I've seen.

Got to say I never pictured that cross looking like that but I like it!

Thank you for posting.

Enchi and Enchi combos are just so crazy..