Making Soul Suckers

I have been kind of scarce lately due to being busy with snakes and work. I have gotten a few new snakes, and though I would post 2 of them up here. I will post some more next week, after we get our last of the year. First up is our first Lesser, and it's a girl. The pic after that is our new Woma male with the Lesser. Hopefully in acouple years we can make some Soul Suckers. Enjoy the pics.

http://www.baileyreptiles.com/pics/lesser.jpg

http://www.baileyreptiles.com/pics/soulsucker.jpg

Thanks for looking,

Hey Tim, good to see you back, Great looking animals :gj::gj: We missed you

Hey Tim! :D Man... that Lesser is gorgeous! :O Best of luck with that future project!

Nice Tim! Good luck with that project!

nice pickups. good luck with that project. guess I know where I'll be shopping in a few years lol

they look really nice !

Beautiful new additions!

Great additions Tim I really like the lesser.

Nice pick up! They are gorgeous.

Where did you get the woma from? From what I understand, NERD's womas have a hidden gene such that when crossed with a lesser you get soul suckers.

I remember discussing this with Debbie (from Ballistic morphs), who produced a woma cross lesser but didn't look like a soul sucker at all. I then asked Kevin from NERD and he verified that their womas have a hidden gene.

Can anyone clarify? Anyone successful in making soul suckers yet? They are beautiful :D

Thanks for all of the replies. I definitely love the Lesser, and don't know what took me so long to get into them.

Tristan,
Kevin's Womas do have the possibility of carrying the hidden gene. The "hidden gene" Womas are the one that are needed to produce a Soul Sucker. I got my Woma from someone who is pretty sure that he has a Hidden Gene Woma that came directly from Kevin. Some believe that there are markers, and I think I have a feel for the marker, but noone is sure. With that said, I don't care to share what I believe, as it is not proven, and may not carry any merit at all. So, I'll breed my 2 together in a couple years, and see if I got lucky when I picked my Woma male.

p.s. Drew, I am not fully back yet, but I am seeming to get a bit more time lately. Hopefully starting in December, I'll be wide open, and back to rummaging around.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Thanks for all of the replies. I definitely love the Lesser, and don't know what took me so long to get into them.

Tristan,
Kevin's Womas do have the possibility of carrying the hidden gene. The "hidden gene" Womas are the one that are needed to produce a Soul Sucker. I got my Woma from someone who is pretty sure that he has a Hidden Gene Woma that came directly from Kevin. Some believe that there are markers, and I think I have a feel for the marker, but noone is sure. With that said, I don't care to share what I believe, as it is not proven, and may not carry any merit at all. So, I'll breed my 2 together in a couple years, and see if I got lucky when I picked my Woma male.

p.s. Drew, I am not fully back yet, but I am seeming to get a bit more time lately. Hopefully starting in December, I'll be wide open, and back to rummaging around.

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Thanks for that info Tim, good luck!

Like everything you have.... top notch! :gj:

Nice looking duo Tim!
Hope you got one with the hidden gene.

that lesser is hot!! GL in the future with these 2.. soul suckers are gorgeous!

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Thanks for all of the replies. I definitely love the Lesser, and don't know what took me so long to get into them.

Tristan,
Kevin's Womas do have the possibility of carrying the hidden gene. The "hidden gene" Womas are the one that are needed to produce a Soul Sucker. I got my Woma from someone who is pretty sure that he has a Hidden Gene Woma that came directly from Kevin. Some believe that there are markers, and I think I have a feel for the marker, but noone is sure. With that said, I don't care to share what I believe, as it is not proven, and may not carry any merit at all. So, I'll breed my 2 together in a couple years, and see if I got lucky when I picked my Woma male.

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Tim that Lesser girl is killer looking. I wish you luck with the Woma. Is there any way you can prove it out without waiting for the Lesser to get up to size?

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Originally Posted by Albey

Tim that Lesser girl is killer looking. I wish you luck with the Woma. Is there any way you can prove it out without waiting for the Lesser to get up to size?

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I can try to make Infernos, but I don't have the other ingredient combos in female form to try it with. Hopefully in a couple years.

p.s. Drew, I am not fully back yet, but I am seeming to get a bit more time lately. Hopefully starting in December, I'll be wide open, and back to rummaging around.[/QUOTE]

Well its a step closer haha. We all look forward to having you back rummaging around. Hows the cinny hypo, spider hypo, ???

Crossing my fingers that the woma does have the hidden gene! :gj:

soul sucker? pics?

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soul sucker? pics?

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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...soulsucker.jpg

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Originally Posted by rabernet

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...soulsucker.jpg

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Now that is one impressive morph!!
Good to see some recent pics of it.

:cool:

looks a little bit like a "yellow Superphantom" to me

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Originally Posted by MPenn

Now that is one impressive morph!!
Good to see some recent pics of it.

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I took that picture in May '07. Thought I got Soul Sucker 2.0, but I guess I didn't - but it can be seen on NERD's site. Looks different than this one.

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Originally Posted by simplechamp

soul sucker? pics?

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Here is another

http://stewartreptiles.com/Gallery/B...SoulSucker.jpg

Thanks for the photos girls. Those are exactly what I hope I can reproduce in a couple years.

Has anyone other than Kevin produced a Soul Sucker from a Woma(hidden gene) x Lesser?

Has anyone, other than me, considered that there is a third distinct/proven
morph gene at work rather than a hidden gene?

Beautiful!
And good luck!

im hoping to one day try for this myself! the soul suckers are hot! im also a fan of the woma lesser lemon pastel!

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Thanks for all of the replies. I definitely love the Lesser, and don't know what took me so long to get into them.

Tristan,
Kevin's Womas do have the possibility of carrying the hidden gene. The "hidden gene" Womas are the one that are needed to produce a Soul Sucker. I got my Woma from someone who is pretty sure that he has a Hidden Gene Woma that came directly from Kevin. Some believe that there are markers, and I think I have a feel for the marker, but noone is sure. With that said, I don't care to share what I believe, as it is not proven, and may not carry any merit at all. So, I'll breed my 2 together in a couple years, and see if I got lucky when I picked my Woma male.

p.s. Drew, I am not fully back yet, but I am seeming to get a bit more time lately. Hopefully starting in December, I'll be wide open, and back to rummaging around.

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Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't the Soul Sucker is a double hidden gene carrier? One from the Woma, and the other being the platinum gene.

Robin

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Originally Posted by Dr_Gonz0

Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't the Soul Sucker is a double hidden gene carrier? One from the Woma, and the other being the platinum gene.

Robin

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I think Kevin is the only one that could correct you. But, I plan on trying a few things, to see what happens.

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Originally Posted by Lucas339

im hoping to one day try for this myself! the soul suckers are hot! im also a fan of the woma lesser lemon pastel!

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Any pics of this??

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Originally Posted by Dr_Gonz0

Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't the Soul Sucker is a double hidden gene carrier? One from the Woma, and the other being the platinum gene.

Robin

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If it has both the lesser mutation and the hidden mutation in the platinum then it is a platinum (i.e. platinum = 1 lesser + 1 hidden and it sure looks like they are different mutations of the same gene). Maybe this is a platinum woma. Has NERD made platinum’s?

Someone near me had some womas that threw some extra light woma’s they thought might also be fire. Could the woma hidden gene be a combo with something that is largely hidden under woma but maybe stands out in some other combos?

From what i remember, NERD had a Lesser Woma Pastel for sale, advertised as the only one they had ever released. In the ad, it was stated that it was a double hidden gene carrier, so i assume it would be the same for their line of Lesser Woma's.

Like you said though, Kevin is probaly who we would need to answer this ... calling evilmorphgod.

Robin