Just wanted to throw this out there!

As far as Obama and exotics! Not sure what this means in the long run, but i just wanted to share this.
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/forums/Experts/39503

"OK, Obama finally admitted in writing he supports ban on pet monkeys, he is against exotic animals
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<<I have an interest in a number of animal welfare bills that have been introduced in the 110th Congress, such as the Pet Safety and Protection Act, the Captive Primate Safety Act, and the Polar Bear Protection Act, which are all currently pending before Senate Committees.>>"



So if he is against pet monkeys, as he should be, that means he is against all exotic animals? Help clear that up for me if I'm getting the wrong idea.

Not sure if you read the entire article! It continues to the bottom of the page. Anyway if he supports exotic animal bans, then that will include exotic reptiles as well im sure. Like i said im not sure how this will affect our hobby, so i was just throwing this out there seeing that we have been going through this federal restriction ordeal. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers, i read the article and figured id share it.

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Originally Posted by juddb

Not sure if you read the entire article! It continues to the bottom of the page. Anyway if he supports exotic animal bans, then that will include exotic reptiles as well im sure. Like i said im not sure how this will affect our hobby, so i was just throwing this out there seeing that we have been going through this federal restriction ordeal. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers, i read the article and figured id share it.

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Maybe I didn't read it as well as I should, I'll look at it again

Edit: I just read it again, can you give me a quote where he says he supports exotic animal bans?

Nevermind, I get the primate thing as being exotic

In reality im only curious to see how it would effect herp keepers, breeders, etc.... If it would at all.

It doesn't...the only time exotics is mentioned is by the poster of that forum message and not in the article at all

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Originally Posted by OhBalls

It doesn't...the only time exotics is mentioned is by the poster of that forum message and not in the article at all

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Thank you, I think that poster is kind of stretching and twisting words there. I don't think primates should be pets either, doesn't mean I'm against keeping snakes, although in some cases it wouldn't be a bad idea seeing how poorly some are being kept.. but thats the same story for a lot of pets.

Primates should be on restricted lists. Especially the greater apes, and the Primate Safety Act helps captive primates, including those in labs.
We can hope he is realistic and looks into things fully before he makes a judgement. Then he'll know the full facts, and know what to support or not, based on facts, and not on twisted guesses.

Primates today, snakes tomorrow.

I knew he was against exotics weeks ago. Tried spreading the word where I could, but some people don't listen until its too late.

Yes yes...I see more bans looming over our hobby in the near future.

Let's have a big round of applause for everyone who voted for the guy. You just helped put some more nails in our coffin!

theres a big line between primates and reptiles...


...just sayin!

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Originally Posted by edie

Thank you, I think that poster is kind of stretching and twisting words there. I don't think primates should be pets either, doesn't mean I'm against keeping snakes, although in some cases it wouldn't be a bad idea seeing how poorly some are being kept.. but thats the same story for a lot of pets.

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Again im not sure how this would affect our hobby, if it would at all. Just wanted to share with everyone.

i read it also and i see no part in the entire article that obama made any such claim as to supporting a ban. just stiffer rules on owning certain exotic animals and he is focused more on the dag/cat situation then anything.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

theres a big line between primates and reptiles...


...just sayin!

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You and I know that...but we're talking about politicians here....not the brightest people on the planet, my friend.

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Originally Posted by Ophiuchus

Primates today, snakes tomorrow.

I knew he was against exotics weeks ago. Tried spreading the word where I could, but some people don't listen until its too late.

Yes yes...I see more bans looming over our hobby in the near future.

Let's have a big round of applause for everyone who voted for the guy. You just helped put some more nails in our coffin!

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I'm as much an animal lover as the next person but a ban or stricter policies on owning exotic animals is not nearly as much of a pressing issue as other factors that helped determine people's votes. Don't make ignorant and rude comments towards people's political decisions. If it really bothers you that much, move to another country.

PS: The key word here is HOBBY. You have to pick your battles wisely. What's more important to you? Keeping your snakes or the greater good of your country?

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Originally Posted by juddb

Again im not sure how this would affect our hobby, if it would at all. Just wanted to share with everyone.

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Thanks for bringing it up, it was an interesting post except for that little quote at the top by the poster which they clearly pulled out of no where lol.

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Originally Posted by edie

Thanks for bringing it up, it was an interesting post except for that little quote at the top by the poster which they clearly pulled out of no where lol.

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Yeah i guess your right, however i wonder what affect he will have on the restriction/ban fish and wildlife ordeal, if any at all. I havent heard or read anything on the subject lately. Anyway like i said i didnt mean to ruffle any feathers, i saw it and felt like sharing;).

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Originally Posted by juddb

Yeah i guess your right, however i wonder what affect he will have on the restriction/ban fish and wildlife ordeal, if any at all. I havent heard or read anything on the subject lately. Anyway like i said i didnt mean to ruffle any feathers, i saw it and felt like sharing;).

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My feathers have yet to be ruffled! I was just confused about how a primate ban meant that he didn't want anyone keeping snakes, but I can understand the correlation now, even though it is a little bit of a stretch.

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Originally Posted by Pandora

I'm as much an animal lover as the next person but a ban or stricter policies on owning exotic animals is not nearly as much of a pressing issue as other factors that helped determine people's votes. Don't make ignorant and rude comments towards people's political decisions. If it really bothers you that much, move to another country.

PS: The key word here is HOBBY. You have to pick your battles wisely. What's more important to you? Keeping your snakes or the greater good of your country?

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Agreed. although i did vote mccain for being more experienced, i do not see obama doing much more damage then what has been done to the country already. with that being said and all of our political beliefs on whos best for our country we will only see how things go and as far as our hobby goes, regardless of what email popped up into circulation i truely doubt regulations and bans of certain animals/reptiles will be on his agenda any time soon. as with any president democrat or republican our countrys issues and priorities will always be handled first so i do not think our hobby will be effected just because obama won the presidency. hate it or love it it could have easily been changed with mccain also because he doesnt care for exotic reptiles either.