Very Dark Normal

What to breed to a very dark (near black) normal?
I was thinking about the lemon, but it might darken down the yellow instead of amping up the yellow/black contrast. I've got the lemon, a pastel het hypo, a lesser and a mojo.
I'm already breeding a spider to the lemon and also a mojo female to the lesser.
Any guidance?

I would go with black pastel!

IDK the lesser might be cool. There's nothing (in my book) like a nice melanistic lesser lol. But who knows maybe it would just help to heighten the contrast. You never know til you try :D.

I asked a similar question about my blackback female who is darker and I'm going to breeding her to my YB this season. Also black would go well with albino - more contrast.

I think black pastel, mojo, albino would be good too!! Stay away from lighter animals like pastels, lessers, fires and enchis... those high yellows would be muddied I think.

go with the albino or the pastel i think. wanna borrow my spider female?

I would mojo it up, but that's me. :)

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Originally Posted by tideguyinva

wanna borrow my spider female?

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LOL!! Are you pimping out your snake? :P

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Originally Posted by rabernet

I asked a similar question about my blackback female who is darker and I'm going to breeding her to my YB this season. Also black would go well with albino - more contrast.

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My goblins(RDR YB) are from a very dark female. They have gotten darker over the past month. I am updating pics Fri. and will post pics of mom and the goblins to give you an idea.

I vote Mojo... I love dark Mo's! :D

My vote is either a mojo, a cinny, black pastel, or albino!:gj: the possibilities are endless!

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Originally Posted by Deborah

I would go with black pastel!

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So, I'm confused. I thought that a black pastel was its own codom morph??? Are you saying that if I plop the pastel in with the female normal the result could be a dark pastel or even black pastel?? I have always loved the look of black pastels!!!

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Originally Posted by starmom

So, I'm confused. I thought that a black pastel was its own codom morph??? Are you saying that if I plop the pastel in with the female normal the result could be a dark pastel or even black pastel?? I have always loved the look of black pastels!!!

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I think they're trying to feed your addiction and convince you to buy a black pastel. Black pastels are their own co-dom just like you had thought.

Here's a pic of a black pastel
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...en-us%26sa%3DN

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

I think they're trying to feed your addiction and convince you to buy a black pastel. Black pastels are their own co-dom just like you had thought.

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Lol!!! Well, they will not succeed!!!! I have way too many things to buy for the ranch!!!

Given that the males I have to choose from are: lesser, mojo, pastel het hypo, and lemon pastel, I will more than likely opt for the mojo to pair with the dark female normal... Thanks a million!!

I vote mojo too.

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Originally Posted by starmom

So, I'm confused. I thought that a black pastel was its own codom morph??? Are you saying that if I plop the pastel in with the female normal the result could be a dark pastel or even black pastel?? I have always loved the look of black pastels!!!

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Black pastels are a co-dom morphs, my suggestion is based on the fact that I would breed a dark morph to a dark female and a light morph to a light/high blush female. (my personal preference)

With dark females I would go with Black Pastel, Cinnies etc

With light females, high blushing I would go with Lesser, Pastel etc

black pastel or cinni for sure! think of the real dark pattern and blushing contrasts

I think it would turn out better if you went and bred it with a lighter coloured snake. Perhaps breed with a pastel and then attempt to breed with another pastel to get a super pastel crossed with the dark pattern. I think that could turn out awesome.