first timer!!!

ok today i started droping the temps on our rack i started with 5 degrees and then in a few days i will go to 10 degrees. when should i introduce the male. oh he ate a big meal today should i let it digest a while before i introduce them together.

id give him a day or two then introduce him... thats what I have been doing...

ok he ate today and i started lowering the temps so you think it would be cool to introduce him on like wednesday?

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Originally Posted by dmaricle

ok he ate today and i started lowering the temps so you think it would be cool to introduce him on like wednesday?

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Look at your weather forcast. Best to introduce them like a day before a low front comes through. Also if he is not a proven breeder be ready for a lot of patience. It has been 21 days since we started introducing the males. 3 days on 3 days off two of the three pairings have locked every time. One pairing has not shown any signs of locking yet.

Proven male X unproven female = Lock :gj:
Unproven male X unproven female = lock :gj:
Unproven male X proven female = no signs :tears:

Two days after a meal is good. Go for it:gj:

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Originally Posted by Gloryhound

Look at your weather forcast. Best to introduce them like a day before a low front comes through. Also if he is not a proven breeder be ready for a lot of patience. It has been 21 days since we started introducing the males. 3 days on 3 days off two of the three pairings have locked every time. One pairing has not shown any signs of locking yet.

Proven male X unproven female = Lock :gj:
Unproven male X unproven female = lock :gj:
Unproven male X proven female = no signs :tears:

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well hell lol we are going through a cool front now. he is proven male he sired 3 crutches for adam last year (i think). the female is a 3200 gram virgin. i plan on introducing them tomorrow. will that work?????

Are you lowering the night time temps or day and night temps 5 degrees??

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Are you lowering the night time temps or day and night temps 5 degrees??

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i am lowering the night time temps.

ok this morning we did our first pairing of them. also for some reason the past few days she has been spilling her water it seems like minutes after i clean her tub and put in fresh water she spills it she has never done that before. do yall think she is wrapping her bowl or something along those lines.

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ok this morning we did our first pairing of them. also for some reason the past few days she has been spilling her water it seems like minutes after i clean her tub and put in fresh water she spills it she has never done that before. do yall think she is wrapping her bowl or something along those lines.

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Yes, that's a good sign. Good luck!

well i went in there after about 45 min and the tubs is soaked and there is no water in it now wtf oh and there is a little thing in the corner its wet and sort of white i dont know if its a sperm plug or a little bit of poo? what do yall think??

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well i went in there after about 45 min and the tubs is soaked and there is no water in it now wtf oh and there is a little thing in the corner its wet and sort of white i dont know if its a sperm plug or a little bit of poo? what do yall think??

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The white thing is a urate.

I use heavier bowls with my girls, stoneware. Something they can get a good wrap on, but still not tip it all over the place. Just a thought you may want to consider.

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The white thing is a urate.

I use heavier bowls with my girls, stoneware. Something they can get a good wrap on, but still not tip it all over the place. Just a thought you may want to consider.

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cool i think we are gonna take a quick trip to town and get a large water bowl for her.

also the humidity in their tub is around 68-70 is that to high.

I'm by no means an expert, but if I remember hearing it correctly, during the breeding season in their native areas Humidity tends to be very high and rain tends to be a common occurance.

Just when your humidity is up make sure you pay closer attention to them as you don't want bacterial or fungal infections to start forming or viral infection to take hold. This is one of the reasons I believe a lot of people stress that you know your animal before trying to breed it!

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I'm by no means an expert, but if I remember hearing it correctly, during the breeding season in their native areas Humidity tends to be very high and rain tends to be a common occurance.

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I've heard that too. I've also read about people having success getting picky breeders to breed during a rainstorm - that could have a role as well...

well i just checked again and no lock but i know its still early so i will just give me time.

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I'm by no means an expert, but if I remember hearing it correctly, during the breeding season in their native areas Humidity tends to be very high and rain tends to be a common occurance.

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Yep, that would be the reason some breeders will mist down the whole tub when they've got animals paired up.

ok i just checked on them and i freaked at first cause i looked in through the tub and the adult male spider was laying belly up well half of him was belly up. is this normal i freaked and touched him and he turned over. whats up with that??????

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ok i just checked on them and i freaked at first cause i looked in through the tub and the adult male spider was laying belly up well half of him was belly up. is this normal i freaked and touched him and he turned over. whats up with that??????

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He very well could have been trying to get into position or it could have been nothing. The best thing you can do right now is make a promise to yourself now. Here goes: "I will only check on my breeding snakes once every 24 hours by sliding out the tub and maybe 3 or 4 without sliding it out!"

If you really need to see everything front and center then you should get a display type rack or build one. They might not do anything for a couple of months, but relax if you only check on them once a day or so you will catch them in the act if they are doing something. :D I know it is hard, but it has to be done.

i will do i best i know i need to leave them alone its hard to do lol.

so they do stay locked for a while so i wont miss anything if i only check once a day.

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so they do stay locked for a while so i wont miss anything if i only check once a day.

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The odds are you will not miss anything, but even if you do miss a lock here and there they do normally lock multiple times during the breeding season. The odds of you missing every lock is slim to nill if you check once a day. You will probably go in at the end of a cycle of having them together just to find them locked! Then you have to wait for them to unlock before you move the little stud muffin.

well i have not opened their tub since your post last night and their tub is clear so i peeked in this morning without moving their tub and i could see her tail so still no lock lol.