Fogger for a BP?

Ok this may be completely retarded but....

My humidity is about 30%

Don't worry its a new cage and the snake has not arrived so I have time to experiment with new things.

I am having a humidity problem. I have tried misting, but the humidity just jumps up and drops down with in a couple of hours. I don't want to over spray it for fear bacteria will grow.

I thought about putting in sphagnum moss but I just like to make things difficult. When I was looking for a t-stat I saw an automated fogger system. What do you guys think. I know it wont be cheep but if it keeps my humidity at the level I want then why not try it.

Has any one tried this. or is it such a stupid idea that anyone with half a brain cell would not even try it.

Ive been thinking about this as well

I can not see a reason why a fogger would not work. I mean one of the high end ones with the sensor and automated and such so that my humidity wont get to high.

I was also thinking about putting a humidifier in the room but the fogger seemed like the more adventurous route.

I think a fogger system would work fine--you'll just need to play with it a bit to adjust it, to get the humidity to stay around 60 to 70% without creating a lot of condensation. Remember that they are strong snakes, so however you set it up, make sure the snake cannot tip it, pry it, or shove it around the cage.

I wouldn't bother with it.

Foggers for ball pythons are not necessary in my opinion ... a humid hide works even better and provides security for your snake as well. :sweeet:

-adam

It' pretty easy to maintain 60% to 70% humidity and even higher in a room with quite low ambient humidity. Racks are tougher than tanks, but a plexiglass cover (with about thirty 3/8" holes drilled on the warm side and about half as many on the cool side) placed on a tank, with a small water bowl in the middle, gives me about 65% in a room with an ambient humidity of about 40% to 50%.

I wouldn't I had one for a lizard and it was REALLY wet.

Why don't you get a humidifier? They are around $20 and you can keep the room the snakes are in at a higher humidity.

Buy live plants, don't use a heat lamp and cover the hot side of the tank. With a once a day misting of the plants it keeps it perfect!

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Foggers for ball pythons are not necessary in my opinion ... a humid hide works even better and provides security for your snake as well. :sweeet:

-adam

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Humid hide is the way to go! I have one for each of my guys & their sheds are lovely. I use tupperware containers with damp sphagmum moss (Fluker's I find is the best).

I was having a low humidity problem last winter. I bought a larger water dish, moved it to the warm side, and covered 80% of the screen with foil. Also, lamps definitely suck humidity out, so if you are using one you could try moving it farther away or ditching it for UTH's

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Originally Posted by Jenn

Racks are tougher than tanks

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Just wondering, how is that racks are tougher to maintain humidity in? I've got a rack for my balls and I have 0 problems with keeping the humidity up even though the RAH in my room is around 40% inside the rack the humidity stays at an even 60% all of the time. I've got just a few holes in the front to get even air flow and it works just fine.

IMO a fogger would just be a needless expense. As has been said already a humidifier would do the job better and for much less money.

Sorry about that. I meant to say that it's tougher for me to maintain humidity in "MY" racks than my tanks. I have Freedom Breeder racks. I understand that rack systems where the tubs have lids and there are holes burned in the tubs are super easy to keep humid. Sorry for the confusion.

I wouldn't bother with it, if you have like a tank then just cover 3/4th of the top with a folded trash bag, this'll help the humidity dramatically. You can also get one of those big spray things that people use for pesticides and other stuff, you buy them at lowes and home depot and cost about $10.

I covered the top of mine with foil and duct tape, cut a few hole out, and just mist. it works wonders :gj: :gj:

I have a 2X3 by RBI. I have 3 hides in it one in each area of my heat gradient. My heat gradient is 82.5 - 92.5 F. I have a RHP installed. I put my water bowl which is wide and low directly under the hottest spot. I have a helix T-stat. There is a florecent bar light in the back but I keep that off most of the time. It is in a closed off room I have two fans for air circulation in the room. A celeing fan and a stand up fan. I was noticing that the cage would get too hot once I got the fans circulating that problem went away. The temps under each of my hides is 83, 86, 88 F. If there is any more info I can post just ask me. I am going to use a humidifier in the room I just like to try the zany kinda routes. I just figured a fogger would be cool. I dont mean a fogger with the whole unit inside the cage just one that would fog when the humidity got too low. Thank you all for your suggestions. I guess I wont try to be the cool kid with a bazillion dollar cage for one BP. :taz:

I covered the top of mine with foil and duct tape, cut a few hole out, and just mist. it works wonders :gj: :gj:

I have started using a sponge that's cut to fit into a small deli cup. I put in as much water as the sponge can hold and place it over the warm side of the tank. I make adjustments by how much polycarbonate is covering the screen lid of the tank.

The sponge helps the water to evaporate better than a regular standing dish of water. It's easy to clean, and if it gets tipped over it doesn't cause a flood or a mess.

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Originally Posted by simplechamp

I have started using a sponge that's cut to fit into a small deli cup. I put in as much water as the sponge can hold and place it over the warm side of the tank. I make adjustments by how much polycarbonate is covering the screen lid of the tank.

The sponge helps the water to evaporate better than a regular standing dish of water. It's easy to clean, and if it gets tipped over it doesn't cause a flood or a mess.

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One word...Bacteria...

Sponges are a breeding ground for nasty bacteria. I personally wouldn't use them in a Ball enclosure.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

One word...Bacteria...

Sponges are a breeding ground for nasty bacteria. I personally wouldn't use them in a Ball enclosure.

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It's no different than using damp sphagnum moss to create a humid hide. People report using those quite often.

I clean the sponge every day or two with disinfectant and hot water. The main reason dish sponges are breeding grounds for bacteria is because they are used to clean dirty dishes with food matter. Some of the food stays behind on the sponge and helps to spawn bacteria. A clean, unused, uncontaminated sponge is far less likely to breed bacteria, especially when cleaned often. Yes, a sponge has lots of surface area which is conducive to bacteria, but only if the bacteria have something to eat and long enough to grow.

Guess who has a cool tidbit of useless information to interject. I do. :cool:

You can kill the bacteria on a sponge by simply sticking it in the microwave for 30 seconds. No joke.

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Originally Posted by Mindibun

Guess who has a cool tidbit of useless information to interject. I do. :cool:

You can kill the bacteria on a sponge by simply sticking it in the microwave for 30 seconds. No joke.

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Well, consider your information no longer useless, because I just used it!

Unless you use distilled water, a fogger will leave a white powder residue all over the place. I use a room humidifier in the dry winter months.

Will someone show me a picture of a hide like that? I am having a hard time seeing how to make it.

dont waste your money with a fogger, go buy a pound of spagnum moss and make a humid hide for like $10 and works and looks way better.

I bought a 15 dollar aquarium pump with clear hose....I have a huge water bowl in my RBI cage. I ran the hose right into the water bowl annd turn the pump on..it bubbles the water in which I was told created humidity like a humidifier.

sorry, i dont see how that is any different from a regular bowl. is it?

wen placed under a heat source it induces more humidity. I was struggling with humidity wen I got my RBi tank and misting wasn't doing it, they day that I put an air pump into his water bowl...he shed in one nice piece.

what kind of tank are u using ??... if its a glass tank with a screen lid - just cover the lid with plastic wrap and cut a fare size whole( outta the plastic wrap) above the water dish, start small and go bigger to bring down the humidity to 50-60% ... also using crushed coconut fiber as a substrate works really well to hold humidity.

I had low humidity problems also but i fixed it with a small baby pool in my basement. I added a power head to keep the water moving. And i also added a heater and a waterfall. It also helps my crappy sinus problems.

My wife picked up a fogger about a week ago because we were having humidity problems. Well, the same day I picked up some ECO Earth. Well the ECO Earth took care of the humidity problem.

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Originally Posted by A7XSynX42

Buy live plants, don't use a heat lamp and cover the hot side of the tank. With a once a day misting of the plants it keeps it perfect!

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What kind of plants do you have in your bp cage?

What kind of substrate do you use? Or do you keep the plants in pots, as opposed to planting them in the substrate?

I've been thinking about putting live plants in my tanks but have no idea how to go about it?

Thanks!

I just received my fogger that I ordered on the net. I did have some difficulties with humidity in a glass tank, but I was able to control the humidity with a damp rag over part of the screen, just rehydrated the rag every morning and changed the rag every couple of days.

I now have my fogger on a timer and have set the amount of fog to be released in 15min intervals every hour and a half. The base is on the outside of the tank and the tube that provides the fog is placed through the screen about half an inch in the tank. This has been working great for me as a maintenance-free method of controlling the humidity, just have to add water when it runs out. And as someone posted, I use reverse osmosis water, something with a low mineral salt content, not tap water.

I don't believe you need a fogger but it is a fun addition, nothing more than a new toy.

I use fogger for mine and it really works without a problem, I had humidity issuse for a while and then some research and noticed that fogger was ok for the BP, I got it and have it set on a timmer, so mine now sits prefect at the correct temp!

My one is a zoo med repti fogger, cheap and cool lookng to.