Co dom x simple recesive

I understand most of the genetics behind breeding balls. BUT i have a question. How do you get a co dom gene into a simple recesive gene?

I.E. Pied x spider = ????

thanks!:weirdface

Pied X Spider = Spider het pieds and het pieds

Spider het pied X het pied = Spider Pieds, Pieds, Spider 66% pos. het pied, 66% pos. het pied

Would pastel het pied x pastel het pied give you a chance for a super pastel pied?

Yep, but it will be hard that way.

Yup...A 1/16 chance! Good Luck! :salute:

thanks for the help!:gj:

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Yup...A 1/16 chance! Good Luck! :salute:

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Still better than the lottery

lol....the lottery....:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Jyson

Yep, but it will be hard that way.

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what would be the best way then ??? just wondering. Maybe a super pastel het pied to a pastel het pied???

pastel pied X pastel pied

Lol, forget the hets! Super pastel pied x super pastel pied!!!

I guess I was assuming that you didn't have a pair of super pastel pieds.:oops:

But yes super pastel pied x super pastel pied would get ya a whole bunch of super pastel pied. I'd love to see that clutch pipping.

I want 2 super pastel pieds....:(

Here's what you do.

Take a male pastel or super pastel and breed it to a female piebald.

If you produce a male pastel het piebald, raise him up and breed him back to the female piebald. You'll have a 1/4 chance of producing a Pastel Piebald.

That's the quick way to cross a co-dominant mutation with a simple recessive mutation.

Using the same breeding colony to create a Super Pastel Piebald, breed the Pastel Piebald, regardless of sex, to a pastel het piebald produced from the first clutch and you'll have a 1/8 chance of producing a Super Pastel Piebald.

Want a Spider Piebald? Same principle. Just make sure the co-dom is the male and the recessive is the female.

Or a Lesser Piebald...

Or Spider Albino

Or Pastel Clown

I see your logic!:gj:

Been Playing with the whole Punnett Square thing lately
So here is a Codom Recessive paring that will give you a chance at all possible combinations of the 2 genes.

http://jamillsreptiles.com/phpxphp.gif

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Originally Posted by bait4snake

Want a Spider Piebald? Same principle. Just make sure the co-dom is the male and the recessive is the female.

Or a Lesser Piebald...

Or Spider Albino

Or Pastel Clown

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Is there any particular reason that you say to make sure the co-dom is the male? I am curious because I tried to find that out a while ago and did not find any mention, one way or the other. Better odds or something?

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Originally Posted by HypoPita

Is there any particular reason that you say to make sure the co-dom is the male? I am curious because I tried to find that out a while ago and did not find any mention, one way or the other. Better odds or something?

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The reasoning behind having the co-dom male Is so that you reach your goal quicker.... A male matures alot quicker. So if you have a Female that is The Recessive gene carrier you can breed her son that is a co-dom and carrier of her recessive gene back to her possibly by the next season. If the Male was the Recessive then you would have to breed a Daughter back to him which would take you probably 3 years to get her to good breeding size.

edited: nevermind

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Originally Posted by JAMills

The reasoning behind having the co-dom male Is so that you reach your goal quicker.... A male matures alot quicker. So if you have a Female that is The Recessive gene carrier you can breed her son that is a co-dom and carrier of her recessive gene back to her possibly by the next season. If the Male was the Recessive then you would have to breed a Daughter back to him which would take you probably 3 years to get her to good breeding size.

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I gotcha. That didn't cross my mind when I wrote that :rolleye2: I'm hoping to cross my woma and hypo. Ive had the male hypo for a while now, just picked up the woma at the Tinley show for another female. - I couldn't resist, she was beautiful! Would have worked better if they were different sexes, but I wouldn't have it any other way, they are both great!

I will definitely keep that in mind for future snakes though. :gj:

spider is dominant. there is not super form. it is the homozygous form.