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Work Dilema, Please Read

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  • 09-29-2008, 10:41 PM
    N4S
    Work Dilema, Please Read
    Ok, here is the dilema.

    I'm a Senior Technician (Network Security) at my work.

    There has been a lot of movement with positions lately and our Level III Senior Tech got promoted to an engineering position at Corporate. Which means there is an opening.

    I am the most qualified so I applied for it. There were also a few others that applied but the managment who i am close with laughed about the canidates.

    They called me in the office tonight and asked me if I would accept it.

    Time for the dilema.

    I make $1.00 extra per hour working the night shift (3pm-12am).

    If I am to take the job I am only going to look at what is offered after the $1.00 as the actual increase.

    Note: This is a day shift position (9-5) so no shift differential.

    My manager already informed me that he would make sure Finance is aware that I have been making the extra dollar since I have been in the dept. However he doesn't know what they will offer.

    The plus is that I will be getting a review in March and another increase.

    The thing here is that if they offer me say $2.00. It's in the bag. I'll take it.

    If they offer $1.50 do I take it? And then just wait for the other increase in March?

    Also this position would get me even more Corporate exposure than I already have at this point especially dealing with Corp Legal Dept and such. It could also make me a more better candidate for when another supervisor spot opens.

    Should I just take the step up in the dept and then just hope for the best? Or staying the position I am in now risking a not so qualified person jump me in the ladder?
  • 09-29-2008, 10:47 PM
    JLC
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    I'm not sure I see the dilema at all. Either way, it is an increase in pay...just a matter of how much. But there are far more benefits than just a pay increase, as you have already pointed out. What would be the upside of staying where you are now? Is it a big enough upside to lose not only a pay raise and better working hours (although that's personal preference) and the significantly better chances at future promotions?
  • 09-29-2008, 10:55 PM
    N4S
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    Ya your right.

    Only thing holding me back is that on the night shift things are so laid back it's not even funny.

    I also feel that the level of severity of the issues that I would be dealing with are much more higher and I feel that the increase should be at least 2 dollars.

    But then again I think the larger the corporation the cheaper they are. I could make a ton of more money at a smaller company however the stability might not be there as I have here as well as the benefits.

    Plus I've been here for about 6 years.

    I just hope that it's a decent offer in which I wouldn't have to think about and just accept on the spot.
  • 09-29-2008, 10:56 PM
    JLC
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N4S View Post

    I just hope that it's a decent offer in which I wouldn't have to think about and just accept on the spot.

    Well, I hope so too! :gj: Good luck with it!
  • 09-29-2008, 11:00 PM
    N4S
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    Ya thanks. :D
  • 09-29-2008, 11:09 PM
    RichardA
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    Ya.....could be a sticky one if you take it and then get slammed all the time.
  • 09-29-2008, 11:25 PM
    N4S
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    See I know if I take it all the supervisors are going to be handing me all the grunt work that they don't wanna deal with.

    Plus check this out.

    I think when the next supervisor position opens soon I would be the next best candidate for it anyway.
  • 09-30-2008, 06:22 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    $1.50 is $3120 a year raise - that's nothing to sneeze at. In fact, that's a really nice raise.

    On the flip side, if you turn it down, you may be passed over for future promotions. Part of being promoted is taking on additional responsibilities.

    I say take the job!
  • 09-30-2008, 08:03 AM
    Clementine_3
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    On the flip side, if you turn it down, you may be passed over for future promotions. Part of being promoted is taking on additional responsibilities.

    I think that is your answer right there. It really never looks good to pass on a promotion that you are qualified for. Any company likes to see a 'go getter' and it usually pays off in the end.
  • 09-30-2008, 08:05 AM
    norm
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    I am also in IT and I can tell you it's better to take the advancement, even for no raise. The raises will come later, and the higher your position, the better they will be. Don't get stuck on the amount, and definitely don't worry that you make get worked harder. I mean, if it's just about how hard you have to work, you could go find a minimum wage job where you sit on your butt all day, but that's not why we are in it right? I've taken pay CUTS before to get a promotion, but it always pays off in the end. It puts you in that next bracket, where you are now eligible for much much more. I can't say for sure in your case, because I don't know the specifics, but in general that has been my experience.
  • 09-30-2008, 03:22 PM
    N4S
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by norm View Post
    I am also in IT and I can tell you it's better to take the advancement, even for no raise. The raises will come later, and the higher your position, the better they will be. Don't get stuck on the amount, and definitely don't worry that you make get worked harder. I mean, if it's just about how hard you have to work, you could go find a minimum wage job where you sit on your butt all day, but that's not why we are in it right? I've taken pay CUTS before to get a promotion, but it always pays off in the end. It puts you in that next bracket, where you are now eligible for much much more. I can't say for sure in your case, because I don't know the specifics, but in general that has been my experience.

    That's exactly the same thing my supervisor said.
  • 09-30-2008, 05:35 PM
    SecurityStacey
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    I understand that dilemna...I work nights and get that $1 shift differential, so when a day shift promotion comes up unless I get more than a dollar raise I'd actually be taking a pay cut. Not to meniton night shift vs. day.... I know what you mean about more laid back. No bosses... less people... less bs...

    However, it really depends on where you want to go. You will have a higher earning potential eventually with a promotion, even if now the money wouldn't be all that much more.

    If this is somewhere you planned to stay long term - go for the promotion. If you are there temporarily then keep the easier job on nights until you're ready to go somewhere else.
  • 09-30-2008, 06:01 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    I agree. I've been in IT for 10+ years. Take the advancement. I made the mistake staying somewhere for too long (1999-2004) because of the laid back atmosphere and ability to do my own thing when I wanted. It cost me quite a bit of money and held my career back a little.
  • 09-30-2008, 06:14 PM
    N4S
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    Thanks for all the thoughts guys/girls.

    Definitely have given me more to think about in the positive way. :)
  • 09-30-2008, 06:18 PM
    starmom
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    Just my 2 cents...

    I think a lot of this depends on where your passion lies. If you love your work, are passionate about it, and want to remain in the field, then the promotion is worth it in the long run.

    If, on the other hand, this is just a job and is lacking your passion, it doesn't really matter.

    There is so much potential in one's lifetime that spending so many hours without having much passion for what they do seems...wasteful.

    Who are you and where are your passions??? Perhaps looking inward will help you to look outward.
  • 09-30-2008, 09:24 PM
    kid_mustango02
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    Yep, the 9-5 schedule would be the deciding factor for me. I don't know if you're single or what, but my screwed up work schedule keeps me away from the rest of the population.
  • 10-02-2008, 05:15 PM
    N4S
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    ACCEPTED!

    Not what I wanted but they did cover the shift diff and a tiny bit more.

    But like some of you said a raise is a raise no matter how much and that it usually benefits in the future.

    Thanks guys. :gj:
  • 10-02-2008, 06:48 PM
    SecurityStacey
    Re: Work Dilema, Please Read
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N4S View Post
    ACCEPTED!

    Not what I wanted but they did cover the shift diff and a tiny bit more.

    But like some of you said a raise is a raise no matter how much and that it usually benefits in the future.

    Thanks guys. :gj:

    Congrats! It was a good move... and enjoy the day shift!
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