Police here have no lives..

Around 2 A.M. I see lights start flickering outside my room. So of course, as always, I go out and eves drop. They pulled over a car. Do they need one car? No. They need FOUR! They pulled over a couple kids. One black, the driver; and one white, the passenger. The cops ask the black kid to step out of the car, so he does. Then they search him. Then they search the car, then they start searching the grass acting like he threw out a weapon or drugs as they was getting pulled over. Turns out the black kid was 16 so he was violating curfew while his friend was over 17, no curfew for 17 year olds. They let the white driver go. They put the black kid in handcuffs and in the back of the car and went on their way to the station.

Am I the only one who thinks these cops are racist?

A couple months ago, they pulled over a black woman. Took her out of the car, searched her, searched the car, gave her a sobriety test, and had her car towed... why? Because she had no insurance. They needed two squad cars and a captain for that.

I live in a 95%+ white neighborhood, no black cops at all.

I got some pics :D (bad ones)

Two cars
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The other two cars and the driver's car
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Black kid out of the car
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Black kid being searched
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Talking to the kid
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Searching the car
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Two cops talking, left; kid sitting on the hood
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Right before they put him in cuffs and took him away
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Pictures were bad because the portion's of the fence I was standing by are full of rocks and gravel and I was making a good amount of noise. They flashed their lights by me a couple times. And I couldn't use the flash because they might have thought it was a gun or try taking my camera as 'evidence'.

Some things will never change....

that is pretty weak.i live in a 90% white area too and if a cop sees a black person they most likely get harassed.its pretty sad

Curfew? What time is the curfew for 16 year olds? I thought America was a free country? I wonder if I was ever supposed to have a curfew when I was 16...

Our cops do stuff like that .. but to everyone. We live in a town of ~12,000, so if ANYONE gets pulled over there are at least 3 squad cars, and another up a block directing traffic around the stop. One of my friends got pulled over (17yo white male) and he had 3 cars there, his vehicle searched .. whole bit, and they let him go with a warning (speeding or something was the original reason for the stop)

Here it's just a case of nothing ever happening here, so when ever anything happens that can occupy some time .. they all go for it at once.

Point of Order - Our town may have just become less of a quiet place tonight. 3 shot dead behind the mall. Word on the street is it was due to an old guy being mad about some loud music.

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Curfew? What time is the curfew for 16 year olds? I thought America was a free country? I wonder if I was ever supposed to have a curfew when I was 16...

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10:30 P.M. Monday-Thursday, 11:30 P.M. Friday-Sunday.

They need to redefine the word 'free'.

Mainly they're trying to keep kids off the streets late so they aren't causing trouble. It's not working too well...

most of the cops here in this city shoot first and ask questions later. i understand we are kinda a border town but they sure do love pullin that trigger. ive been pulled over twice, once on my bike and once in a car both times they called for backup and had their guns drawn before having me walk backwards to be searched then handcuffed for questioning. they really like to abuse their power down here.

I never thought I'd actually be defending a cop some day, but here goes. ;) Pretty much that whole story you just told was standard procedure. Having multiple squad cars is a safety issue. Whenever one car pulls someone over on the streets, they're supposed to call for at least one other car to back them up in case something goes wrong. Being that you don't actually KNOW what happened, it sounds like your over reacting. How do you know the cops didn't see him throw something out the window when they were pulling him over? Even if it was just a ciggarette butt, they have to check it out. They arrested the kid that was breaking curfew, and let the one who wasn't go. They towed someone's car who didn't have insurance because guess what, in most states it's illegal to drive without insurance! It sounds like you're trying to make a race issue out of nothing to me, because I've seen all these things happen to plenty of white people around here. Just because you don't like a law doesn't mean it's optional.

mOOkfu- You know darn well that you will be sleeping on the couch if you knock the Po Po. Today, it is not only for safety that more than one cop car that shows up but also to be a witness with all the lawsuits today. Current training of Police is such and with statistical studies being made of who is getting pulled over that a cop would really have to be determined to engage in racial profiling today. When I was young I was treated as a potential suspect whenever I had contact with Police and so were my children. Today, now that I am an old dude the Police smile and say hello to me. I agree that younger people are often treated in a different manner than older people. This is probably in part both because young people are more likely to be doing something foolish and also because they can get away with it. Cops are paid to enforce the laws and in the examples given in this thread that is what they did. Today, with the bad economy it is clear to me that cops are enforcing more laws in order to fine people and raise revenue to show the bean counters that there is no reason to lay off Police officers. I hadn't had a traffic ticket in over 25 years and I have received 2 in the last year, both for going 5 miles an hour over the speed limit. The majority of people that I know have recently received traffic tickets, including my wife and my daughter in law. While this generates feelings in me similar to those expressed by the OP I have to admit that they are just enforcing the law and not framing people.

Mookfu and Dsirkle said it best.

Its not racist... and to generalize and say cops are racist is wrong. I come from a family of officers, my BIL is a cop, my MIL is a sgt, my husband is getting ready to go into the academy and thats just to name a few. None of them what-so-ever are racist.

The DRIVER who was 16 was breaking the law, thats why he was put in cuffs, exc. The PASSENGER was not breaking the law which is why he got to go home.

RKO,
You can't have it both ways. Just a few days ago you were complaining because some kids, during the day time, were on the sidewalk by your house being loud and banging on your fence. And now your upset because the police are doing their job. As posted earlier you don't know the complete circumstances of the situation. So to say that the police were acting in a unfair or biased way is in fact a biased statement.
As for the curfew issue, And I know I'm going to get attacked here, but what does a sixteen year old KID need to be out at 2am for? Maybe they were coming back to do harm to you or your dog. Maybe you should be thanking the cops for patrolling your streets instead of complaining. :D

I'd say that it would be tough to know all of the details just from watching. If the driver has previous offenses or something then the passenger would be released and the driver would not.

How do you know their ages?

How do you know something else wasn't involved besides the curfew, how do you know that he didn't throw something in the grass?

As far as staffing of the police departments, it should match the race percentages in the city, town, or county you live. If your city is 95% white than it should be no surprise there is not a black officer. Also how many black officers have applied for a position with your city?

The whole picture needs to be looked, although I am not a police officer I do work in the public safety field and hear citizens opinions all the time.

The whole "needing backup"thing can only go so far though. There is no reason to search someones car, asking for 3 backup units, directing traffic around the stop .. for going a little too fast.

It's true that everyone in todays world need to be cautious, but the police around here srsly have nothing better to do. Another example of that is I live across the street from my church's parking lot. almost EVERY night you can catch 2-3 cars sitting side by side .. for hours. Talking about nothing one would assume due to its regular occurances and legth of time.

I thought the cops were stalking me, or checking out the house for a little while there until I got my licence and when driving around at 12-1am you can catch this happening all over town. 2-3 cars sitting in parking lots. It's dumb.

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The whole "needing backup"thing can only go so far though. There is no reason to search someones car, asking for 3 backup units, directing traffic around the stop .. for going a little too fast.

It's true that everyone in todays world need to be cautious, but the police around here srsly have nothing better to do. Another example of that is I live across the street from my church's parking lot. almost EVERY night you can catch 2-3 cars sitting side by side .. for hours. Talking about nothing one would assume due to its regular occurances and legth of time.

I thought the cops were stalking me, or checking out the house for a little while there until I got my licence and when driving around at 12-1am you can catch this happening all over town. 2-3 cars sitting in parking lots. It's dumb.

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What would you rather have these cops doing? When you are not busy at work do you not gather with some of your work buddies and shoot the s**t. Or maybe check out the net. Would it be better for them to drive around the entire night and waste gas that is way to high. Again be thankful they are sitting out by your house. Maybe your car wont get broken into because they are there.

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Hmm...I witness this a lot too in my hometown. Sounds like a perfectly good way to waste our tax dollars. If there's that many cops sitting around doing nothing, I think we need to lay off a few cops and use the money for their salary for something a little more productive.

I'll probably get flamed for my opinion, but oh well...

I definitely agree that many cops abuse their authority. I have a cop friend in LA that even agrees with me on that point. He's always saying there's jerk cops everywhere.

I'll give them the benefit of a doubt for the most part. I mean, I do know they get paid very little to do what they do. But pulling someone over for only 5 miles of the speed limit? Come on. I'm gonna try to not open the door for the "well, if evryone does it, its okay" argument, but 5 MPH over is almost a grace zone. I mean, technically its illegal to go over 5 mph in a parking lot, but I can't even remember the last time I witnessed anyone retaining that speed in a parking lot, including cops. I honestly believe many cops act like jerks just because they can.

I know I'm grateful for the police in my area that woke me up on Saturday while I was napping to let me know my building was on fire and I needed to get out.

Thankfully for the firewall and their quick response, the fire was contained to one unit.

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Well, sure. But if these cops are doing so while they are on duty (i.e. while my tax dollars are paying them!), that is what irritates me.

And it doesn't take 3 squad cars to do surveillience. Its kinda like, why would I pay 3 people to change a light bulb when only one person is required to do the job?

Okay, I will agree that if they are sitting side by side for hours doing nothing then that is not productive. But I also know that cops do not have a desk to work at and when they have to fill out a report sometimes instead of driving all the way to the station it is more productive to stay in there work area and fill that report out in there car. And while doing that it is also safe for them to have someone parked next to them that can pay attention to things around them so that they do not get sneaked up on. Again it helps to know all the circumstances before passing judgment. And while I'm thinking about it the OP was not in complaint to them sitting around doing nothing. It was a complaint about them doing there job. And to many of them responding. :D

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Curfew? What time is the curfew for 16 year olds? I thought America was a free country? I wonder if I was ever supposed to have a curfew when I was 16...

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You should know since you live in Ontario. All G2 Drivers under the age of 18 or 19 or some crap can't drive between 12-6 am with passengers under the age of 18 unless they're immediate family.

I actually wanted to be a police officer and work with the K9 unit. But life happened and that didn't become a reality. I am very glad for all the work the Police do and understand most of what and why they do it. But one thing that really bugs me (one of my biggest pet peeves period for anyone) is when they don't use their blinkers. :confused:
I see it way too much from a group who is supposed to enforcing the law yet they can't do it themselves. Just makes me want to call up the Police station and tell them they need to get car # whatever in to the garage to be fixed, their blinker isn't working. :D

Ok, I'm done complaining.

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I'd say that it would be tough to know all of the details just from watching. If the driver has previous offenses or something then the passenger would be released and the driver would not.

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The whole "needing backup"thing can only go so far though. There is no reason to search someones car, asking for 3 backup units, directing traffic around the stop .. for going a little too fast.

It's true that everyone in todays world need to be cautious, but the police around here srsly have nothing better to do. Another example of that is I live across the street from my church's parking lot. almost EVERY night you can catch 2-3 cars sitting side by side .. for hours. Talking about nothing one would assume due to its regular occurances and legth of time.

I thought the cops were stalking me, or checking out the house for a little while there until I got my licence and when driving around at 12-1am you can catch this happening all over town. 2-3 cars sitting in parking lots. It's dumb.

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my understanding is... procedure asks for backup, every officer in the area responds so there is always someone going to the scene instead of hearing "i thought you were going to go" Its for the officers safety, as well as the public. You dont know what these teens could have or do.. come on doesnt anyone watch the news? How many officers have to be killed before the officers can be looked at as the good guy? I know there have been FOUR within two counties recently, FOUR officers killed DOING THEIR JOB! if people werent breaking the law there would be nothing to worry about.

It is the end of the month, and cops need to fill their quota. They are supposed to do a certain number of pull overs and arrests per month, so sometimes they make a big scene out of nothing, just so they don't get in trouble from their higher ups.
I know a guy who got a $115 ticket for going 2 over the speed limit. Its just ridiculous.

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It is the end of the month, and cops need to fill their quota. They are supposed to do a certain number of pull overs and arrests per month, so sometimes they make a big scene out of nothing, just so they don't get in trouble from their higher ups.
I know a guy who got a $115 ticket for going 2 over the speed limit. Its just ridiculous.

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That is not true.. has nothign to do with the end of the month!!! The guy was breaking the law, he deserves to go to jail.
STOP BREAKING THE LAW AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!

AND FURTHERMORE... none of you complaining about officers DOING THEIR JOB if you were the one broken into, in an accident, exc. It is their job to sit around and wait for calls. Officers are seriously people too. they have families, children, parents, celebrate holidays, exc just like everyone else. They dont get off on pulling people over, ruining your day, exc. TRUST ME

I think it's probably profiling, and not just straight racism. When I was younger, whenever I drove into the city I'd get pulled over and pulled out of my car and searched, and have my car searched. It was always because I was a young white guy in a black neighborhood. The cops would tell me that was the reason everytime. I lived right on the border of a not so good area, so it happened all the time. In areas that are predominantly one race, cops see anyone who "doesn't belong there", especially at night and especially kids, as potentially being up to no good. It's not right and it is profiling, but I think that's what cops are trained to do. It's not just white cops messing with black people. It happened to my sister-in-law and her fiance just a few weeks ago a block away from their friend's house near Western and North Ave., and they're 31 years old.

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They dont get off on pulling people over, ruining your day, exc. TRUST ME

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Can you honestly speak for every officer of the law in the entire country when you say this? Believe or not, some people do get off on power, especially when it comes easy.

I'm not saying that every cop in the universe is a racist jerk who always abuses his authority, but likewise, not every cop is a saint either.

Just as there are responsible pet owners and irresponsible ones.

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That is not true.. has nothign to do with the end of the month!!! The guy was breaking the law, he deserves to go to jail.
STOP BREAKING THE LAW AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!

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You're trying to tell us that you have never driven even 1 mph over the speed limit ever, and that anyone who does belongs in jail? :confused:

That's a scary post. I have a video where a gentleman who was a cop, military prosecuter and a federal prosecuter says that any cop can find a reason to pull someone over, usually within following them for less than one block. There are hundreds of things a person can do that is considered a violation. So unless you have never driven a car, you have most likely broken some law every time you got behind the wheel. Feel free to turn yourself in for your jail time at your earliest convenience.

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You're trying to tell us that you have never driven even 1 mph over the speed limit ever, and that anyone who does belongs in jail? :confused:

That's a scary post. I have a video where a gentleman who was a cop, military prosecuter and a federal prosecuter says that any cop can find a reason to pull someone over, usually within following them for less than one block. There are hundreds of things a person can do that is considered a violation. So unless you have never driven a car, you have most likely broken some law every time you got behind the wheel. Feel free to turn yourself in for your jail time at your earliest convenience.

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This.

I don't know about racial profiling, but they have to have probable cause to search his car. I would refuse and make them get a warrant. Alot of police abuse of power comes from people's lack of knowledge of the law. Consenting to search rarely helps the situation.

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That is not true.. has nothign to do with the end of the month!!! The guy was breaking the law, he deserves to go to jail.
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Take this from a Criminology student who was about to go into Police Foundations, every officer in North America DOES have a quota to fill by the end of the month; just the same as doctors with how many prescriptions they write out. I'm a female who drives a 5 speed manual transmission Nissan 240SX sports car. You wouldn't believe me if I told you I get pulled over AT LEAST once every single month since I've started driving that car a year ago. Guess what? I have NO speeding tickets on my record and a few months ago, I got pulled over by an angry cop who clearly had nothing better to do with his time. I got a careless driving ticket ($900) because some moron decides not to check his blind spots when switching lanes, almost hits my car, and because I swerve out of his way to avoid an accident, I'm the one getting the ticket. Go figure. If they have a choice between the family sedan and the sports car covered in drifting and track stickers, guess who they'll be pulling over? There's good and bad cops, I'm not disagreeing with you that a majority of them do their jobs, but you have to put two and two together and realize that obviously, when you have the power they do, you'll use it to your advantage. And you know what? Chances are, if you don't know the law and your rights and freedoms (in order to outsmart the cop), they will use almost everything and anything within their power to use against you. It's a violation of your privacy for a cop to search your car if they pulled you over for speeding. However, 90% of the drugs found in cars are done through doing this. And of course, it's useless trying to defend yourself in court. Unless you know that information straight off the bat, there's no way for you to keep yourself safe. So basically, if you're going to complain about cops, know your law, know your rights and freedoms, and obey the law. That is all.

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I don't know about racial profiling, but they have to have probable cause to search his car. I would refuse and make them get a warrant. Alot of police abuse of power comes from people's lack of knowledge of the law. Consenting to search rarely helps the situation.

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Consenting to a search, or saying ANYTHING, NEVER helps the situation. I have to find that video. That is the entire topic of the whole 30 minute video. And in a lot of cases, at least in Chicago, you can try all you want to stop the police from illegally seaching your car, but they never listen. They have never wanted to see my insurance card, they always just run my name and DL, put me against the hood and rip my car apart, before telling me to stay out of the bad areas. I've told them that I hadn't done anything and that I do not give them permission to search anything, nor will I waive any rights, and they tell me to STFU, threaten to take me in an alley and kick the hell out of me, then rip my car apart anyway.

Edit: Found the link: http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/28...d-cop-agr.html Great video!!!

Okay everybody, let's get back to the original post. This involved two juveniles out at 2am. I would suspect that they were probably the only car on the road in that area at the time. Let's do a hypothetical. The police officer while patrolling sees the car with two people in it at 2am and starts to follow them. As stated there are several reasons someone could be pulled over. After following them for a short while he notices that they have a tag light out or maybe they swerve just a little. He pulls them over and finds that two young kids are driving the car. HUMMM. Why are they out so late. I'm sure he asked, don't know what they said, but that's not important. What is important is that one of those kids is in violation of curfew. After making an arrest, in this case the curfew violation, they then have the right to search the car. When they do maybe they find drugs or stuff they suspect to be stolen from cars in the area or tools that could be used to break into cars or vandalize property. In this case it appears they did not find anything other then a curfew violation. Where they doing there job? I say yes. :gj:

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You're trying to tell us that you have never driven even 1 mph over the speed limit ever, and that anyone who does belongs in jail? :confused:

That's a scary post. I have a video where a gentleman who was a cop, military prosecuter and a federal prosecuter says that any cop can find a reason to pull someone over, usually within following them for less than one block. There are hundreds of things a person can do that is considered a violation. So unless you have never driven a car, you have most likely broken some law every time you got behind the wheel. Feel free to turn yourself in for your jail time at your earliest convenience.

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im not saying everyone deserves to be in jail, thats seriously taking it to the extreme, have i "broken" the law? Yes, I have been in accidents that were "my fault" i have speeding tickets, exc, AND even if they had flicked a cigarette butt they wouldve also been smoking illegally... BUT if you are 16 driving after cerfew the officer cant allow you to leave and continue to drive after cerfew therefore yes, you should go to jail... the cop couldve been nice and let the kid who wasnt illegally out drive home but we also dont know what the whole scenario was. you have no idea if these kids mouthed off, had drugs, weapons, exc... Should you go to jail for every violation? No but fess up when your doing something wrong and either serve you time, pay the fine, exc. Dont whine about cops doing their job...

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Take this from a Criminology student who was about to go into Police Foundations, every officer in North America DOES have a quota to fill by the end of the month; just the same as doctors with how many prescriptions they write out. I'm a female who drives a 5 speed manual transmission Nissan 240SX sports car. You wouldn't believe me if I told you I get pulled over AT LEAST once every single month since I've started driving that car a year ago. Guess what? I have NO speeding tickets on my record and a few months ago, I got pulled over by an angry cop who clearly had nothing better to do with his time. I got a careless driving ticket ($900) because some moron decides not to check his blind spots when switching lanes, almost hits my car, and because I swerve out of his way to avoid an accident, I'm the one getting the ticket. Go figure. If they have a choice between the family sedan and the sports car covered in drifting and track stickers, guess who they'll be pulling over? There's good and bad cops, I'm not disagreeing with you that a majority of them do their jobs, but you have to put two and two together and realize that obviously, when you have the power they do, you'll use it to your advantage. And you know what? Chances are, if you don't know the law and your rights and freedoms (in order to outsmart the cop), they will use almost everything and anything within their power to use against you. It's a violation of your privacy for a cop to search your car if they pulled you over for speeding. However, 90% of the drugs found in cars are done through doing this. And of course, it's useless trying to defend yourself in court. Unless you know that information straight off the bat, there's no way for you to keep yourself safe. So basically, if you're going to complain about cops, know your law, know your rights and freedoms, and obey the law. That is all.

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WRONG, my father in law is a retired police chief. He has worked for large cities in South Florida to smaller departments and "the end of the month quota" was never in place for any of the depts he worked for.

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I got pulled over by an angry cop who clearly had nothing better to do with his time. I got a careless driving ticket ($900) because some moron decides not to check his blind spots when switching lanes, almost hits my car, and because I swerve out of his way to avoid an accident, I'm the one getting the ticket. Go figure.

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Yeah, it sucks how the system works sometimes. Now I've had my fair share of speeding tickets (nearly all were less than 15 over), but whenever I see some punk racing down the road in his suped-up honda with an ugly spoiler and doing at least 80, I can't help but wonder where the cops are then? Sure, I was in a hurry because I was late for work, but who is more of a danger to those around him? Me or the idiot young twerp who thinks he should be in the next Fast and the Furious movie?

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If they have a choice between the family sedan and the sports car covered in drifting and track stickers, guess who they'll be pulling over?

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I can certainly relate to this. Since I started driving in 1998, these have been vehicles I've driven:

- brown Buick oldsmobile Lordknows how old
- black Chevy Blazer
- sky blue Chevy Silverado
- tan Chevy Cavalier
- blue Astro van
- white Chevy Venture van

...out of those 6 cars, which do you think I got the most tickets in? The black SUV and the tiny car. And believe me, I've sped over the limit equally in all of them.

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WRONG, my father in law is a retired police chief. He has worked for large cities in South Florida to smaller departments and "the end of the month quota" was never in place for any of the depts he worked for.

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Hmm...maybe thats the way it is in Florida, but I've had several cops in Alabama and LA say otherwise. They DO have a quota.

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WRONG, my father in law is a retired police chief. He has worked for large cities in South Florida to smaller departments and "the end of the month quota" was never in place for any of the depts he worked for.

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THANK YOU! my point exactly!

I LIKE PANCAKES!

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WRONG, my father in law is a retired police chief. He has worked for large cities in South Florida to smaller departments and "the end of the month quota" was never in place for any of the depts he worked for.

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It's true for a fact in Canada. I'll tell you that much

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...out of those 6 cars, which do you think I got the most tickets in? The black SUV and the tiny car. And believe me, I've sped over the limit equally in all of them.

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Sounds like the police weren't doing there job and you should have gotten more tickets. :rofl:

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Hmm...maybe thats the way it is in Florida, but I've had several cops in Alabama and LA say otherwise. They DO have a quota.

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There is really no point of the quota system, the police department gets something like 1-3% of each ticket they right.

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Yeah, it sucks how the system works sometimes. Now I've had my fair share of speeding tickets (nearly all were less than 15 over), but whenever I see some punk racing down the road in his suped-up honda with an ugly spoiler and doing at least 80, I can't help but wonder where the cops are then? Sure, I was in a hurry because I was late for work, but who is more of a danger to those around him? Me or the idiot young twerp who thinks he should be in the next Fast and the Furious movie?



I can certainly relate to this. Since I started driving in 1998, these have been vehicles I've driven:

- brown Buick oldsmobile Lordknows how old
- black Chevy Blazer
- sky blue Chevy Silverado
- tan Chevy Cavalier
- blue Astro van
- white Chevy Venture van

...out of those 6 cars, which do you think I got the most tickets in? The black SUV and the tiny car. And believe me, I've sped over the limit equally in all of them.

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I know what you mean about ricer Civics. I hate ricer Civic owners twice as much as the next person. Several times I'd be cruising down the highway and some idiot would pull up beside me, look into my car and rip it down the road expecting me to follow. I don't race. I follow traffic. I'll admit I've sped on occasion. Nothing serious enough to cause damage or life threatening injuries to myself or anybody else. I won't drive even after having one beer, or one shot. Which are probably good reasons why I've never gotten a ticket. Every time I do get pulled over it's for "a routine check" or "roadside safety" or "improper exhaust" which has a silencer on it so they have no reason to give me tickets. I've also got my car insured, registered, and licensed as a road legal track car and since I have a clean record, nobody hassles me beyond checking my license and registration but that careless driving ticket, was bogus.

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Sounds like the police weren't doing there job and you should have gotten more tickets. :rofl:

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Maybe so, but that wasn't my point. If a cop is gonna pull someone over and give them a ticket, that should be the only criteria. It shouldn't matter what age they are, or what model/color the vehicle is.

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There is really no point of the quota system, the police department gets something like 1-3% of each ticket they right.

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I totally agree, but they have it here just the same. I don't understand why any cop would say they have a quota when they don't.

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Originally Posted by cuda

I LIKE PANCAKES!

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ME TOO!!!!! :gj:

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Originally Posted by Pandora

You should know since you live in Ontario. All G2 Drivers under the age of 18 or 19 or some crap can't drive between 12-6 am with passengers under the age of 18 unless they're immediate family.

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That restriction is only for the first six months of having your G2. But that doesn't really have anything to do with curfew, that is about keeping inexperienced drivers off the road at night (which doesn't really make sense to begin with, the roads are empty :confused:) not keeping trouble making kids off the street.

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Originally Posted by Pwilliams58

That restriction is only for the first six months of having your G2. But that doesn't really have anything to do with curfew, that is about keeping inexperienced drivers off the road at night (which doesn't really make sense to begin with, the roads are empty :confused:) not keeping trouble making kids off the street.

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Well, they call it the G2 driver's curfew. I assume it's the same or similar thing wherever this incident happened.