super pastel super cinny

http://www.vpi.com/sites/vpi.com/fil...ter-9-08-A.JPG

produced by Doug Matuszak of Boa Basement....

Congrats on being the first to produce this awesome looking snake

im not real sure im too into that

I was looking at that the other day. Cool stuff! He also produced a totally awesome Hypo Pewter!

Do you know how long ive been waiting on one of these! Its a power house ball, makes all pewters! Yet still no one before has paired Pewterxpewter!

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

Yet still no one before has paired Pewterxpewter!

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How do you know that??

....cool lookin snake! :gj: Itd be interesting to see how it colors up as an adult.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

How do you know that??

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How do you know that?

interesting snake with great breader possibilities. not very eye-catching color though

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Originally Posted by veedubz

http://www.vpi.com/sites/vpi.com/fil...ter-9-08-A.JPG

produced by Doug Matuszak of Boa Basement....

Congrats on being the first to produce this awesome looking snake

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the first one was Greg Graziani in 2005 ;)

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

....cool lookin snake! :gj: Itd be interesting to see how it colors up as an adult.

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just do it

http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1169747098.jpg

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Originally Posted by FastDad

just do it

http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1169747098.jpg

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Not the same morph;) This is talking about a super pastel super cinny, the link provided is a pastel super cinny.

Kevin McCurley says that the Silver Bullet is also known as SuperCinnemonSuperPastell :confused:

http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...ver_bullet.htm

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Silver Bullet

This is our fifth signature mutation produced here at Graziani Reptiles.

The Silver Bullet is the product of breeding a Pewter Pastel to a Cinnamon Pastel. It is actually a Super Cinnamon Pastel Jungle (homozygous Cinnamon heterozygous Pastel). These ball pythons are patternless silver/gray in color. They are a darker color towards the front of the body and they get lighter towards the tail. When bred to a Wild Type (normal) ball python, the offspring ratio is 50% Pewter Pastel and 50% Cinnamon Pastel. That makes this mutation another powerhouse in any collection.

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Kevin McCurley says that the Silver Bullet is also known as SuperCinnemonSuperPastell :confused:

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Nope Silver Bullet is a Pastel Super Cinny resulting from breeding a pewter to a cinny

It can also be done by breeding a pewter to a black pastel

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Originally Posted by FastDad

Kevin McCurley says that the Silver Bullet is also known as SuperCinnemonSuperPastell :confused:

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FastDad, you are correct that Kevin McCurley says that but it is a misprint in his book. The Silver Bullet is a Super Cinnamon / Pastel (Homozygous Cinnamon / Heterozygous Pastel). This one is a Super Cinnamon / Super Pastel (Homozygous Cinnamon/ Homozygous Pastel). It is not your fault that even the experts are wrong sometimes.:gj:

Sorry but I think that snake is plain ugly... Super cinny is one of my favorite 3.... but this think just doesn't do it for me at all.

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Originally Posted by mcavana

Sorry but I think that snake is plain ugly... Super cinny is one of my favorite 3.... but this think just doesn't do it for me at all.

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I don't like it either. But hay congrats on another powerhouse snake.:gj:

it kinda looks like a hairless rat... and I'm sorry hairless rat lovers ... but bald really isn't my thing...

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Sorry but I think that snake is plain ugly... Super cinny is one of my favorite 3.... but this think just doesn't do it for me at all.

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I don't like it either. But hay congrats on another powerhouse snake.:gj:

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it kinda looks like a hairless rat... and I'm sorry hairless rat lovers ... but bald really isn't my thing...

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Yeah im gonna have to say the beauty of this one is on the inside for sure. Beautiful genotype... phenotype... not so much.:P

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Originally Posted by Albey

FastDad, you are correct that Kevin McCurley says that but it is a misprint in his book. The Silver Bullet is a Super Cinnamon / Pastel (Homozygous Cinnamon / Heterozygous Pastel). This one is a Super Cinnamon / Super Pastel (Homozygous Cinnamon/ Homozygous Pastel). It is not your fault that even the experts are wrong sometimes.:gj:

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thank you :bow:

and that´s the reason why i stay at this forum. to learn something new every day. like this or the hidden NERD-Woma-gene

that snake is super sweet.

I think it'd be interesting to see what happens with it as it gets older. Having both the super pastel and super cinny in there it's a toss up whether it's going to really lighten out (like the super pastel) or totally darken up (like the super cinny and the silver bullets to an extent). At any rate its a beautiful snake and definitely a powerhouse genetically!

I love it.:bow: Although I am not too fond of the name, I can see it causing confusion. I am hoping to produce a super pastel super black pastel. And I am liking that hypo pewter as well.:D

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Sorry but I think that snake is plain ugly... Super cinny is one of my favorite 3.... but this think just doesn't do it for me at all.

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I wouldnt care how ugly it is, its all about having that thing as a and breeding those genes into other projects.