Possible New Morph???

I was looking at this snake on kingsnake from Tom Cowell. Has anyone bought from him?

What do you guys think? Does this really look new morph or is it just a pretty normal?

http://hometown.aol.com/tmcreptiles/IMG_2132.jpg


http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=631683

You never can tell now with so much stuff being brought in. I would check out the babies. Other than that, I would just consider it a normal until proven otherwise.

I just do not see the morphyness about it. Its odd, but if every odd normal proved to be a morph, there would be no normals.

I looked at all three clutched and didn't see anything morphish in the but hell I don't know nothing :rolleye2:

I have 1 girl that is almost identical and two that are very similar.

The identical girl is a WC adult, imported gravid, eggs collected and hatched and then she was flipped. If they flipped her, then she wasn't genetic (at least not a dom/codom). I think you have a great looking normal that just has some great variances within normal range.

Bruce

BTW.. here's my girl.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...um/Therese.jpg

Looks like a $250 normal to me. Very nice looking normal though.

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

BTW.. here's my girl.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...um/Therese.jpg

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Nice lookin' girl Bruce. Do you have a belly pic? Hers of course. :O

You know I was all the rave over a bunch of these unproven phantom(ish) looking snaking like everyone else over the last couple years.

I must say until I produced a female that looks very similar to a phantom from a het lavender to het lavender breeding.

To be honest I believe that phantom(ish) look is just a natural occurrence in normal ball pythons so I'm a little more skeptical over unproven phantom(ish) type animals. I do believe they are out there but not nearly as many animals that appear phantom(ish) will prove out.

In my opinion;)

Heres my unproven...

http://www.bluegrassreptiles.com/images/prettygirl.jpg

another shot...

http://www.bluegrassreptiles.com/images/phantom_4.jpg

Nice looking normals for sure! I like the color and pattern. Bred to a Mojo or Pastel should through some killer patterns.

Well then hell, this will the newest $100K morph if that one is a morph. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...es/nacho-1.jpg

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Originally Posted by SPJ

Well then hell, this will the newest $100K morph if that one is a morph. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...es/nacho-1.jpg

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I won't go a penny over 80K!! LOL

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Originally Posted by Larry Suttles

Heres my unproven...

http://www.bluegrassreptiles.com/images/prettygirl.jpg

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I love the look of that one larry. Shes got some gorgeous flames and neat coloring going on there

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Originally Posted by Nightmare Creatures

Nice looking normals for sure! I like the color and pattern. Bred to a Mojo or Pastel should through some killer patterns.

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Thats how I see it. Nice normals that can selectively upgrade a few morphs.

Bruce

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Originally Posted by waltah!

I won't go a penny over 80K!! LOL

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Oh man. There goes my retirement. :D

So does everyone think this guy falls in the same category as the previous pics??? I am about to put him in with my female pastel tonight but now after reading this thread it makes me want to put in my pinstripe male.... decisions decisions.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7/3/Gamble.jpg

I'd put him in Josh, he is gorgeous! Maybe not the pastel girl, but a normal lady that compliments his features. :gj:

Thank you Connie... Unfortunately/fortunately... depending how you look at it, I only have a pastel, spider, and possibly a clown female that are ready to breed. I contimplated holding off on breeding him until next season as Ill have more females available but I think I'm going to give him a go.

i rarely post on forums, but Josh breed that snake. put your pin to the spider if you wish. the floating pattern on that animal is incredible. i would like to suggest that maybe you look for a few big 2200 plus gram female normals, in your area of the country, for him.
if you decide not to work with him. i am sure i know someone who would!


howard

Josh that is an awsome looking snake!

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Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead

I think you have a great looking normal that just has some great variances within normal range.

Bruce

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I agree.

Hi,

I say cover her with both males and let the snake gods decide. :snake: :bow: :snake: :bow: :snake: :bow:


dr del

Hey everyone I thought I would share more on this on. I just got home from Tom Cowell's.
I live in Jersey and come to find out I work in Princeton which is about 20 min. from him.
I was interested in some adult females he had for sale and he invited me to come visit and see his collection. He was a great guy to meet. Very friendly and knowledgeble.

He has a very nice collection and I was very impressed with the cleanliness and organization. He has many beautiful animals.
Ivories, YB, Ghosts, Pastels, Carmels, Pieds, ect.

I saw his "possible new morph male" in person and it definately is an interesting and beautiful snake. Looks similar to a Mojo, extremely blushed out, Floating heads, and several other interesting characteristics.

I then saw the babies from him and 3 different females. They also are interesting. There were some very normal and then there were several that were not. High blushing, weird bellies, blushed out head, floating aliens, hooks, and on top of that the patterns were a odd bright greenish gold.

I got a couple adult females off of him and He told me I was the first person to see the odd balls in person and could have first pick if I would like. I did take one of the odd baby males off of him. Who knows we will see in a year or two what happens.
Even if it turns out to be just a pretty normal I am fine with that I got a great looking 140 gram dinker to play with.

As for Tom C. great down to earth guy. Very friendly easy to talk with. I saw pretty much his entire collection
and every animal looked top notch and very healthy/well taken care of. He has some smokin' animals in there
so I am giving my approval ( not that that means much....LOL ) but I speak from first hand in person experience.

Im one step closer to proving out my male... he went in with my pastel female last night and @7 this morning I had a lock. I hope the BP gods give me beginners luck this year.